Freedom of speech and thought and equality is what the West is and Islam forbids it.

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So you suggest that believers should take disbelievers, like Ludlow and many other adversaries, as loyal friends; I shall think about this marvelous idea :roll:
Belief is a prison of the mind. Believers are not capable of learning anything new, which means they will never understand anybody else and they are isolated from anybody who does not believe as they do. Islam has many different sects, many different interpretations of their book. That is why they kill each other as much as they kill infidels. You are incapable of learning anything new about anything from inside your own self made prison of belief.
 

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Deception is deception regardless of the excuse for it. It is the coward's way. I believe in what I believe in and will not say different. So it seems that I, a female, have more "balls" than male Muslims.

It is logical if you have no courage, yes. If you have confidence that you will survive without your corporeal body then what is the big deal? You might as well stick to your beliefs and oprinciples and let your corporeal body go so you can enjoy your "heaven"..

I don't doubt about your courage and bravery, and your balls :lol:
 

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I don't doubt about your courage and bravery, and your balls :lol:
Strong, self confident women scare the crap out of Muslim men with no balls. I would love to see you come face to face with Anna or any woman like her. If you ever do, don't forget to wear Depends.
 

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Belief is a prison of the mind. Believers are not capable of learning anything new, which means they will never understand anybody else and they are isolated from anybody who does not believe as they do. Islam has many different sects, many different interpretations of their book. That is why they kill each other as much as they kill infidels. You are incapable of learning anything new about anything from inside your own self made prison of belief.

Of course instead of my belief, I should choose your confusion and in stead of the light of God's religion, I should follow your dark programs, and this will not be unless I take your advice and leave my prison! Genius or Devilish! 8O
 

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Of course instead of my belief, I should choose your confusion and in stead of the light of God's religion, I should follow your dark programs, and this will not be unless I take your advice and leave my prison! Genius or Devilish! 8O
Intelligence is something that escapes you. The true believer knows that faith is freedom and belief is slavery. If you had any faith in your god, you would trust that it would not guide you astray. But you have no faith in your creator because you are stuck in the belief that an ancient book has all the answers you need and therefore have no need to think for yourself, a robot. You are a very sad case and do your religion no favours by spouting your ignorance to the world.
 

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Quran 62: 6-8
{6. Say, [Mohammed]: "O Jews, in case you claim that you are favorite friends of God, apart from other people e, then do long for death if you are truthful [in your claim that God loves you.]" f

7. But they will never long for the [death], on account of [the crimes, wrong-doing and disobedience] that their hands have forwarded [to the Next Life.]
God is All-Knowing about the wrong-doers
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8. Say [Mohammed to them:] "Death which you try to evade will inevitably overtake you h, then [following your death] shall you be brought back to [the judgment of God] Who knows [both] the hidden and the open [of your deeds]; and then He shall inform [and punish] you about what [evil deeds] you have done.}
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e It means: If you claim that God loves you in preference to other people.

f Then God – be glorified – disapproved their claim, and He said:

g It means: Jews who wrong people and plunder their rights.

h And none can escape.

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
 

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Quran 62: 6-8
{6. Say, [Mohammed]: "O Jews, in case you claim that you are favorite friends of God, apart from other people e, then do long for death if you are truthful [in your claim that God loves you.]" f

7. But they will never long for the [death], on account of [the crimes, wrong-doing and disobedience] that their hands have forwarded [to the Next Life.]
God is All-Knowing about the wrong-doers g.
8. Say [Mohammed to them:] "Death which you try to evade will inevitably overtake you h, then [following your death] shall you be brought back to [the judgment of God] Who knows [both] the hidden and the open [of your deeds]; and then He shall inform [and punish] you about what [evil deeds] you have done.}
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e It means: If you claim that God loves you in preference to other people.

f Then God – be glorified – disapproved their claim, and He said:

g It means: Jews who wrong people and plunder their rights.

h And none can escape.

The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
Does the same apply to Muslims who harm others? Do you not believe that god loves you in preference to others who are not Muslim? In Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia where Muslims persecute Jews and Christians, do you think Allah approves of this because they are infidels?

 

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It is also a city where the Jews were held captive which is the subject of this chapter Mr. know it all. Read the fvckin chapter .My gawd.
Babylon is modern day Iraq is everyone retarded?

This chapter is called,'freedom of speech and thought and equality is what the West is and Islam forbids it'. Babylon is modern day lots of places, sir. Washington easily qualifies so does London so does Tel-Aviv and a dozen others. The Jews have always been held captive by Babylon and still are. Run along now and change the oil in your salad.


It is not like that.
The disbelief and apostasy from the religion of the Islam will lead man to go to Hell. But if he is captured by the enemy who will kill him if he admits being a believer, then he may say the word of disbelief, only by tongue not by heart.
While if he disbelieves by heart, then he deserves Hell.


I know it's fun to taunt and incite the infidels EA but we have expensive furniture here and a short budget, please try to draw them into the street if you want to continue ruffling thier feathers.
Keep up the entertaining work.
 

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This chapter is called,'freedom of speech and thought and equality is what the West is and Islam forbids it'. Babylon is modern day lots of places, sir. Washington easily qualifies so does London so does Tel-Aviv and a dozen others. The Jews have always been held captive by Babylon and still are. Run along now and change the oil in your salad.





I know it's fun to taunt and incite the infidels EA but we have expensive furniture here and a short budget, please try to draw them into the street if you want to continue ruffling thier feathers.
Keep up the entertaining work.
Yeah that made sense
 

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This from the guy who posts endless hate and fear mongering threads about Muslims, Justin and Liberals. Behind all anger is fear. Found any terrorists hiding under your bed lately?


Not afraid of nothing... That's why they created a 79 Winchester, keep the idiots on their side of the fence. ;)

This is what Sammy the Hammy thinks of selfsame's beliefs:

Racist hypercrite, your fear is showing through.
 

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Not afraid of nothing... That's why they created a 79 Winchester, keep the idiots on their side of the fence. ;)
Racist hypercrite, your fear is showing through.

Real men use clubs or bare hands. What kind of a poofter needs a gun when he could strangle the intruder with his bare hands. Which is far more satisfying then six or seven rounds of rifle cartridge out the window.

Yeah that made sense

An incomplete four word sentence isn't much of a rebuttle, Ludblow, sir.
 

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What are you saying? This is not deception, it is only to save his life and to escape the persecution of disbelievers. That's it.
It is logical; so will man in such circumstances submit himself to the enemy to kill or persecute him?


Christians have. You saying that the believers of Christ are better than the believers of mohamed? Braver than the believers of Mohamed? That's the way it is looking to me.

Mathew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven
 

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Where was I not truthful?


Where is the age break to you of pedophilia?


4 , 8, 10, 16 years old?


When is a child no longer a child and can become a bride?


Why should I fear God and why did you ignore the words of Jesus?


Why are you an idol worshiper instead of the God seeker Jesus asked you to be?


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DL

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So am I the idol worshipper or you, who erect the statues of the Christ and his mother in your churches? Moreover, the cross itself is an idol, on which the statue of the Christ hanged!
While this is an obvious contradiction of the first commandment which is the most important of all the commandments: that you should not take any engraved statue to adore it?

If Jesus tells you: follow the Quran which is the miraculous revealed word of God, what will you answer?
I know that Jesus Christ will deny many men who will come to him in the Next Life, and he will drive them away, in spite of being Christians called according to his name, and will say to them: Truly, I tell you: I don't know you, go away from me.

While the age of sexual maturity is the age where man and woman will be taken to account when he/she attains.

Moreover, why do you and others insist on this point, which is contradictory and is a matter of variation among Muslims; i.e. it is only one narration, while there are other narrations that she was older.

Think also, Prophet Mohammed had nine wives, why should he take a child for marriage? What benefit might he get from a child? While there were so many women among the believers: virgins and widows and he could take anyone he wants, and she will be glad?

Christians have. You saying that the believers of Christ are better than the believers of mohamed? Braver than the believers of Mohamed? That's the way it is looking to me.

Mathew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven

You are a people following falsehood deliberately and intentionally.

It is not a must: man is not obliged to say the word of blasphemy, but he is allowed to say by tongue not by heart in order to save his life;

and I think this is very logical, because why should he endanger his life and his security, if it is only related to saying some words to ward the hurt from himself.

I think in some circumstances, this will be an obvious foolishness, to endanger his life and safety.

Moreover, I know you are a hero [on the internet only of course :lol:], may be better than Peter who denied his teacher before the crying of the cock.
 
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Immigration is by driven by war. Disintigration of social infrastructure initiates the movement of remnant social blocks. Usually the fittest amongst the target populations are able to make the trek to the west. This selection process weakens the target nation or nations and enhances the instigating parties powers of conquest. Your view of the west as a bastion of permanent stability is unfounded and hopeful at best. There is a third party which you pretend not to see. The same wars which initiate migrations also serve to dilute the destinations of those same migrants ensuring maximum boiling of the social vats on both sides of the conflict, ie, east and west. What we see in the east will be the wests reward for induced/forced/taught tolerance of usary formost among the tools of the controling third side. This third wheel has captured the labour of the other two and put it to work in a permanent state of war designed to induce maximum velocity of wealth capture and maximum discontinuity and maximum profit. It's new age imperialism of the frequent flyer class and nothing else. Crushing that third vile grasping hand would save humanity and initiate a golden age, a jump forward for all good people. The towers of babel always fall and the architects always slither back to the margins and wait for the next ignorance induced flowering of tolerance.


Thanks for all of this.


I did pull this bit.


" Your view of the west as a bastion of permanent stability is unfounded and hopeful at best."


I never indicated that this was my view. You read a lot that I did not say in what I said.


With jihadists and other kooks about, there is no such thing as permanent stability.


I think that most immigrants heading to the U.K., if I recall a news report well, are economic migrants and not freeing war.

Regards
DL