Criticizing or Questioning Islam is NOT “Racism”

AnnaG

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Now you are starting to piss me off. Do not put words in my mouth. The fact you have no ****ing clue is no reason to try and pull me down to your level. You were the one stupid enough to compare 8 deaths in 40 years done by Christian idiots to tens of thousands of deaths done by Muslims.
aawww Pissing you off? So? you going to shoot me?

Here is some more fact for you; back when Islam was just a baby of a religion, Christians were killing people left, right and center.
So keep excusing Christians for killing but that just shows how much of a fool you are.
Fundie Muslims are killing and it is wrong, but because they are catching up to the number of deaths that Christians have caused is not an excuse.

Oh, and you better watch out; some Islamic ladder is likely out for your hide.
 

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Sonny, as soon as you develop something faintly resembling a functioning intellect, come on back and we'll have a debate. Right now debating you is like slapping a crying baby............abuse of someone unable to defend themselves.

"RACE is a social construct."

lol



8 people dead in 40 years in attacks on abortion clinics and the shooting of abortion doctors.

Eight.

Methinks the sheeple has a little problem with relative lethality.



When you have no argument.......... resort to insult.
It's not debatable that race is a social construct, you wrinkled up butt plug. I don't have time for half wits, do some reading ya freaking inbred joker.

Fascists need to be stomped into dust.
 

AnnaG

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It's not debatable that race is a social construct, you wrinkled up butt plug. I don't have time for half wits, do some reading ya freaking inbred joker.

Fascists need to be stomped into dust.
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It's not debatable that race is a social construct, you wrinkled up butt plug. I don't have time for half wits, do some reading ya freaking inbred joker.

Fascists need to be stomped into dust.
He says bravely from the safety of mommy's basement and the anonymity of a computer monitor.
 

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No one on here who criticizes Islam does it wisely, it's racist rhetoric. This thread is a piece of trash and doesn't have any relevancy here.

The title in itself "Criticizing or Questioning Islam is NOT “Racism”" , is at face value true and obvious. However in practice, on these forums, it's nothing short of racist rhetoric.
 

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8 people dead in 40 years in attacks on abortion clinics and the shooting of abortion doctors.

Eight.
OK, so add in Northern Ireland. Now we're in the thousands. And if I recollect right, pretty much every lynch mob, church burner, and church bomber in America not only professed Christianity, but frequently cited segregation as a Christian precept. Heck, some of 'em were ordained Christian ministers.

Now we're in five figures.

And by the way, I'll accept that the psychopathic, vengeful craziness of Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy don't apply to Christianity when Christians forswear the Ten Commandments (also found in Exodus).

I'm not attacking Christianity, by the way. Buddhists kill folk, as do Taoists, Hindus, and every other damn religion. Christianity wasn't responsible for Jim Crow or the Troubles. And Islam isn't responsible for the Middle East. People do what they do. If they're religious, they find a religious justification. If they're not, they find a non-religious justification.
 

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And by the way, I'll accept that the psychopathic, vengeful craziness of Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy don't apply to Christianity when Christians forswear the Ten Commandments (also found in Exodus).


Actually, try another tact as Christ did state that the 10 commandments were Gods law and the only law that he was bringing forward.
 

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I'm not sure how criticism of of Islam can be seen as racism since Islam is not a race. However, it could be seen as Islamophobic, depending on how it is delivered.
 

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I'm not sure how criticism of of Islam can be seen as racism since Islam is not a race. However, it could be seen as Islamophobic, depending on how it is delivered.
So people don't like Islam and don't want it here. Giving it a negative term like "Islamophobia" is disingenuous, regardless of how the criticism is delivered.
I've noticed that despite some of his posts, no one calls Cliffy a Christophobe. And why? Because that would be f*cking dumb.
Religion is a choice. Just like political ideology. I don't like Dippers. I find most of them incapable of anything but knee-jerk emotional thought and wouldn't know logic or reasoning if it a$$raped them. Does that make me Dipophobic?
Yet if I said something equally critical about Muslims I'd be outright labeled for it. If I said something equally critical about Christians there might be a handful of people who would defend them but the usual gang of idiots wouldn't be tossing around terms like "racist" or "bigot" at me.
I don't like onions. In fact I hate them. They are disgusting, revolting things and I don't want 'em anywhere near me. I guess that makes me an Alliophobe.
Obviously not. Phobias are irrational fears. Not everyone who dislikes Islam does so for irrational reasons. I've met many people through the years from the Middle-East. The vast majority were not Muslims. Some became good friends, some others owned businesses I regularly frequented and at one point I even worked for an Iranian family. Most of them were solid. Admittedly my experience with Muslims from the Mid-East is rather less but for the most part, my interactions with them have left me singularly unimpressed. Although to be fair, there's no shortage of people from all religions and ethnicities that have left me feeling that way so, take what you want from that.


A while back I was having some fun ragging on Blackleaf, calling him an Anglo-Saxon dog. It wasn't personal or anything I was just trying to point out the difference between racism and bigotry. I freely admitted I'm a bigot but I never explained why, so this is as good a place as any. I hate everybody equally. That includes White people. I learned a long, long time ago that people who appear to be friendly aren't necessarily all that friendly. So I decided to hate everyone except individuals who have been able to demonstrate they're not some self-serving, totally self-absorbed jackwad.

Sonny, as soon as you develop something faintly resembling a functioning intellect, come on back and we'll have a debate. Right now debating you is like slapping a crying baby............abuse of someone unable to defend themselves.

"RACE is a social construct."

lol

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Well, I hate to say it but he's quite correct. The concept of "race" is a 17th century European social construct. The fact is there is only one race of humans currently alive. There have been 4 races of humans; Denisovans, Cro-Magnon, Neanderthal and us. All 4 species or "races" are Homo Sapiens.
Every single person on the planet who isn't African can trace their lineage all the way back to the 1st modern humans that left Africa and began settling the rest of the world. Hence, there is only one race of humans currently living.
 

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OK, so add in Northern Ireland. Now we're in the thousands. And if I recollect right, pretty much every lynch mob, church burner, and church bomber in America not only professed Christianity, but frequently cited segregation as a Christian precept. Heck, some of 'em were ordained Christian ministers.

Now we're in five figures.

And by the way, I'll accept that the psychopathic, vengeful craziness of Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy don't apply to Christianity when Christians forswear the Ten Commandments (also found in Exodus).

I'm not attacking Christianity, by the way. Buddhists kill folk, as do Taoists, Hindus, and every other damn religion. Christianity wasn't responsible for Jim Crow or the Troubles. And Islam isn't responsible for the Middle East. People do what they do. If they're religious, they find a religious justification. If they're not, they find a non-religious justification.

Actually, 3466 died in the troubles, just a few hundred more than died in 9-11 alone................but I take your point.

I would argue that Ireland is a fight not rooted in religion, but in history.

I do not think the Irish fight with thoughts of their God on their minds.
 

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Actually, 3466 died in the troubles, just a few hundred more than died in 9-11 alone................but I take your point.

I would argue that Ireland is a fight not rooted in religion, but in history.

I do not think the Irish fight with thoughts of their God on their minds.
And I would argue that the situation in the ME is not rooted in religion, but in history.

Fact is that people of every religion have been pretty horrible at various times in their histories. Frankly, I can't see a pattern at all. Which indicates to me that religion isn't the, or even a, root cause.
 

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And I would argue that the situation in the ME is not rooted in religion, but in history.

Fact is that people of every religion have been pretty horrible at various times in their histories. Frankly, I can't see a pattern at all. Which indicates to me that religion isn't the, or even a, root cause.
Riposte...

Atheists tend to blame all religions for all the evils of the world, But religion itself is not to blame, it's unscrupulous leaders who use it as a tool to incite the masses..
That being said, a lot of people tend to go to great lengths to find all kinds of reasons, even excuses.... to ignore the fact that lately, one religious belief has been used extensively to cause mayhem in the world!
 

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Why post a pic of grenade launchers as the 'poster' for what Islam stands for? The marks on the arms came in a box with a NATO logo.

All AKs and a Russian RPG.

I'd say you FAIL the Weapons ID 101 class.
 

AnnaG

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No one on here who criticizes Islam does it wisely, it's racist rhetoric. This thread is a piece of trash and doesn't have any relevancy here.

The title in itself "Criticizing or Questioning Islam is NOT “Racism”" , is at face value true and obvious. However in practice, on these forums, it's nothing short of racist rhetoric.
Says the dopey bugger who cannot distinguish race from religion.

I'm not sure how criticism of of Islam can be seen as racism since Islam is not a race. However, it could be seen as Islamophobic, depending on how it is delivered.
A phobia is defined as an irrational fear. I suppose some people fear Islam for no rational reason but they are few.
I do not fear it. It is simply one of the aggressive religions that I dislike.

Well, I hate to say it but he's quite correct.
Well, you should not have said it then because he is not right.
The concept of "race" is a 17th century European social construct. The fact is there is only one race of humans currently alive. There have been 4 races of humans; Denisovans, Cro-Magnon, Neanderthal and us. All 4 species or "races" are Homo Sapiens.
There have been more than that since hominins evolved about several million years ago. Since Australopithicus, there has been at least 6 distinct species of humans including Homo Sapiens. And there is some pretty good evidence that there is a hybrid between the latest two species of humans. Research has found that Neanderthalensis bred with H. Sapiens.
Every single person on the planet who isn't African can trace their lineage all the way back to the 1st modern humans that left Africa and began settling the rest of the world. Hence, there is only one race of humans currently living.
The 4 or 5 main "races" are subspecies of humans and there are distinct genetic variations between these subspecies.
Calling race a "social construct" is only true in a non-genetic viewpoint and since genetics has an awful lot to do with humans as a species, sociology is a very narrow field indeed.

So race may be a social construct in a narrow sense, but not in all senses. Whereas religions are nothing BUT social constructs.
 
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