"Albertans Against the NDP" movement growing as oil and gas industry crisis continues

B00Mer

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Thats what elections are for. You vote people in. If you dont like what they do you vote them out at the next election. If you get buyers remorse part way through - well thats just too bad. And yes, Id still be saying this no matter which party it was.

To bad, Alberta will join the ranks of the Have Not Provinces by the time the NDP is finished with her.
 

WLDB

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France. ;)


Yeah, kill the king and aristocracy. Then five years later get an Emperor and military dictatorship. Then ten years after that the family they beheaded was back in power again. So it didnt really work.

To bad, Alberta will join the ranks of the Have Not Provinces by the time the NDP is finished with her.

If that happens its their own fault. The NDP didnt seize power. It was handed to them by the electorate.
 

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If that happens its their own fault. The NDP didnt seize power. It was handed to them by the electorate.

Would you invest in Alberta?

I mean watching the "Capital Strike" to the tune of 20 Billion leaving Alberta, it's sad to see people lose their jobs and all...
 

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I propose a majority (50%+1) of voters of the affected riding by way of petition, to permit this direction. A by-election would then be triggered.

Few elected officials actually get over 50% of the vote in their ridings in Canada. After an election, most of the seats in any legislature could potentially be in danger of a recall. The resulting by-election could re-elect the same official or elect another with less than 50% motivating yet another recall campaign. But it would still be a challenge to convince people to recall an MP or MLA so early even if they voted against them.

If you could get 50% of the electorate to sign the petition, it would be an impressive enough feat and call into question a government's legitimacy. There wouldn't be much getting around it.
 

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Few elected officials actually get over 50% of the vote in their ridings in Canada. After an election, most of the seats in any legislature could potentially be in danger of a recall. The resulting by-election could re-elect the same official or elect another with less than 50% motivating yet another recall campaign. But it would still be a challenge to convince people to recall an MP or MLA so early even if they voted against them.

If you could get 50% of the electorate to sign the petition, it would be an impressive enough feat and call into question a government's legitimacy. There wouldn't be much getting around it.

That's sounds like a lot of work...

Just to clarify that petition is not mine, just figured the link would help it get a few more signatures. I would be interesting to see if anything comes of the petition.
 

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Would you invest in Alberta?

I mean watching the "Capital Strike" to the tune of 20 Billion leaving Alberta, it's sad to see people lose their jobs and all...

Nope, but I wouldnt be investing there regardless of which party was in power there. A lot of those jobs would be leaving either way. The government has 0 control on global oil prices.

Just to clarify that petition is not mine, just figured the link would help it get a few more signatures. I would be interesting to see if anything comes of the petition.

Nothing will. Every voter could sign it and it wouldnt make a difference. The government doesnt have to recognize it or do anything in it. Cant do a damn thing til the next election.
 

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How dare those NDP Socialists lower the world price of petroleum, like that! Ralph Klein would never have allowed that to happen!
 

petros

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If only they were more like SK Party.

Wall kicks as$!
 

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What does Alberta oil have to compete with cheap product from OPEC? Who praises "global economies"? Toss your tear-filled beer bottles at the Muddled East. The world doesn't revolve around Canadian political BS
 

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Just think how cheap swampland will be in the near future.
 

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Implement Recall Legislation for the Alberta Legislature

Politics in Alberta have taken an unanticipated turn during the recent election. A traditionally right wing (Fiscal and Social Conservative) province radically altered our direction by electing the New Democratic Party (NDP).

The NDP have been met with challenges* that they are not prepared to deal with, while failing to address conflicts of interest within their caucus**. Out of control spending *** shows that Alberta may have made a mistake in the last election.

I propose the Alberta government draft and pass "Recall Legislation", that would permit Alberta residents to request an individual, or party prove they still retain the support of the Alberta voting majority.

This would allow a governing party to prove

without a doubt they still represent their voter's wishes
they hold the confidence of the province in the direction the government is pursuing
In addition, it would ensure that the governing party does not get a 4 year "free reign" as a majority, without being held to account for decisions. I propose a majority (50%+1) of voters of the affected riding by way of petition, to permit this direction. A by-election would then be triggered.

Recall legislation would benefit current and future voting citizens by providing an avenue to demand the Party/MLA, whether it be NDP, PC, ABP, Wildrose, Liberal or Independent, prove they have the full support of the citizens they are representing.

* depressed oil prices
** hiring an anti-pipeline activist as the Chief of Staff of the Energy Minister portfolio
*** no budget tabled or available, but $6bn in spending in Q2 of 2015

BC has had recall legislation for a number of years. The dippers tried unsuccessfully several time to use it to oust good government.
My only question about Alberta's anti NDP movement is what took them so long to get started?
 

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If only they were more like SK Party.

Wall kicks as$!

Really it's to bad they don't take lessons from Wall..

NDP loves to blame Oil Prices for the 20 Billion leaving Alberta and the 138,000 jobs lost, but it's just not the case, the same is not happening to other Provinces.. such as Saskatchewan.

It's clearly NDP policies that are creating this "Capital Strike," and the Citizens of Alberta are going to have to pay for it...

If any of the NDP MP's want a long term career in politics, this is the time they should cross the floor to the Wildrose Party.

Also, what pisses me off is that 40% of Albertans didn't vote in the last election.. There should be manditory voting laws. Push to make it a legal requirement that everyone who is elligible to vote has to do so, Provincially and Federally.
 

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Just think how cheap swampland will be in the near future.

A couple of decades ago, there was a GTA realestate developer named Slough Estates. The term "slough", as in watering hole is not used in the East. I thought that it was as funny as hell.

" Invest in Moose Meadows now, before all of the choice properties are gone!"
 

taxslave

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Invest in Moose Meadows now, before all of the choice properties are gone!"


Wow. you just proved the theory that is you gave a group of monkey's a keyboard and some time they would eventually turn out a blockbuster novel.
 

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Good luck getting the oil out to market. That's the biggest downfall to the Alberta economy (and to Canada as well). Remember this "brave" Page who got herself fired for "standing up to Harper?" She wasn't a Page for long at all. She applied for, and took the job specifically so she could do this.

You might think "what's the big deal?" It's a young Canadian standing up for her beliefs, right? - Wrong.

The Page (Brigette DePape) is a paid professional protester. So, "what's the big deal?" She's obviously working for a charity environmentalist - or - rights group, standing up for Canadians, right? - Wrong.

DePape works for a group deceptively called "The Council of Canadians. They're one of these groups who had their charity status revoked because they are actually a political group (which btw was fraud).

The COC is a far left advocacy group, who’ve generously supported the culture of violence we’ve seen in far-left protests since the Battle of Seattle at the 1999 WTO. Their leader Maude Barlow has advocated for people who smashed windows at the 2001 Summit of the Americas in Quebec city.

But hey, at least they're far left Canadians (committing a little vandalism), standing up for their rights, right? - Wrong.

The COC have been exposed as receiving a large portion of their funding from the Tides USA foundation. The Tides USA foundation has been exposed as being a front for Saudi oil interests.

A large portion of the anti-Harper propaganda and protests you saw over the course of the past several years was organized - and paid for by the tides foundation.

The pipeline protest on Burnaby mountain?

Paid for by Tides, organised by the COC, and a large portion of the protesters were paid to be there. The rest were what these far left people like to call "useful idiots." (DePape was there)

DePape did her part in our election by starting the iconic "stop Harper" image, then mobilizing the youth vote to oust the former PM. But again, this was not done in your interests. It was funded by foreign oil interests looking to reduce competition, by encouraging Canadians to shut down development of resources, and harm our own economy. Alberta and Canada as whole are going to have to very tough years ahead as the Saudis drive the oil sands out of business.
 

petros

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What does Alberta oil have to compete with cheap product from OPEC? Who praises "global economies"? Toss your tear-filled beer bottles at the Muddled East. The world doesn't revolve around Canadian political BS

Canadian oil is cheap too.

good luck getting the oil out to market. That's the biggest downfall to the alberta economy (and to canada as well). Remember this "brave" page who got herself fired for "standing up to harper?" she wasn't a page for long at all. She applied for, and took the job specifically so she could do this.

You might think "what's the big deal?" it's a young canadian standing up for her beliefs, right? - wrong.

The page (brigette depape) is a paid professional protester. So, "what's the big deal?" she's obviously working for a charity environmentalist - or - rights group, standing up for canadians, right? - wrong.

Depape works for a group deceptively called "the council of canadians. They're one of these groups who had their charity status revoked because they are actually a political group (which btw was fraud).

The coc is a far left advocacy group, who’ve generously supported the culture of violence we’ve seen in far-left protests since the battle of seattle at the 1999 wto. Their leader maude barlow has advocated for people who smashed windows at the 2001 summit of the americas in quebec city.

But hey, at least they're far left canadians (committing a little vandalism), standing up for their rights, right? - wrong.

The coc have been exposed as receiving a large portion of their funding from the tides usa foundation. The tides usa foundation has been exposed as being a front for saudi oil interests.

A large portion of the anti-harper propaganda and protests you saw over the course of the past several years was organized - and paid for by the tides foundation.

The pipeline protest on burnaby mountain?

Paid for by tides, organised by the coc, and a large portion of the protesters were paid to be there. The rest were what these far left people like to call "useful idiots." (depape was there)

depape did her part in our election by starting the iconic "stop harper" image, then mobilizing the youth vote to oust the former pm. But again, this was not done in your interests. It was funded by foreign oil interests looking to reduce competition, by encouraging canadians to shut down development of resources, and harm our own economy. Alberta and canada as whole are going to have to very tough years ahead as the saudis drive the oil sands out of business.
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