Capitalism can not eradicate poverty
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Well when you bend your knees and accept servitude you are granted a certain level of base existance. I know you would not argue that the DR is an example of democratic prosperity on the same level playing field as this fine example of ours Canada would you?
I agree, capitalism cannot eradicate poverty. On the other hand, neither can communism.
Considering the human gene pool, I think humans that are used to fighting for survival are a hardier breed than the ones that loll about in their comfort and affluence. I also believe that if or when a large-scale disaster happens, the hardier ones will survive easier than the comfy ones.
Considering the human gene pool, I think humans that are used to fighting for survival are a hardier breed than the ones that loll about in their comfort and affluence. I also believe that if or when a large-scale disaster happens, the hardier ones will survive easier than the comfy ones.
Hati every time. I would rather die free on my feet than die a slave on my knees. I have bad knees.
Well then, enjoy what will be a very short stay.
PS - Generally speaking, the disease and severe malnutrition will result you being on your back when you die with all that freedom... Just thought I'd give you the FYI
PS - Generally speaking, the disease and severe malnutrition will result you being on your back when you die with all that freedom... Just thought I'd give you the FYI
So with all such points, have you become a millionaire?
Moreover, there are many people smart and work and toil but they obtain only little gain.
Others have no such intelligence, and not clever and not working with effort and get a lot of money: so how do you explain it?
Many people who have excellent means of livelihood, ascribe it to their intelligence and cleverness while it is not correct.
Therefore, man works and the success and the gaining is only due to God and His giving and offering to various people according to His decree.
{Quran 43: 32 It is We that have distributed among them their livelihood in the life of this world [so We give much to some and less to others],
and We have raised some of them above others in ranks [of position, wealth, and many sons and friends,]
in order to let them serve one another [by making some work for others with money in recompense e]
[Then God – be glorified – said:]
But certainly your Lord's mercy is better [for you, Mohammed] than the [money] which they hoard. f }
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e So that the order will be in harmony, and works will not be suspended; and as such have We chosen for them an apostle [: Mohammed] out of themselves, to recite to them the revelations of their Lord, and to purify them of sins and teach them the book and the wisdom.
f It means: the prophet-hood to which We have chosen you, Mohammed, is better for you than the money which they hoard; because the money will finish, while the prophet-hood is for you and dedicated to your name till Doomsday.
Well, I don't consider myself "stupid" but I'm glad you can identify if I am.
I was referring specifically to the N. A. continent i.e. Canada and the US. But Haiti would be an example of what I was referring to - dirt poor! Our poor don't have any idea of what poor is - period.
JMHO
There are places in the southern US where poverty is pretty close. Children with poor medical and dental care. Probably not as bad as Haiti but close. There are many pockets of poverty in this country but they are not so visible as the rest of the world only see's the Kardashians.
They still are not as poor as the Haitians and I agree with you about the Kardashians! Sad really isn't it?
Of course it can, that's the entire point of communism - to eliminate poverty, especially of the working class. The point of Capitalism is to enrich capitalists.
History has proven that communism did nothing to enrich the working class. In most cases it kept them poor. It does however enrich the ruling class.
Nothing can eliminate poverty. Poverty is not an absolute, it is a comparative. No system of economics or government has ever produced economic equality. There have been winners and losers, and big winners and big losers, in every political entity in human history.
So, you have three choices:
1. Go with what we've got, which has a record of steady if uneven improvement in social, physical, and economic well-being for all. Use relatively small and careful experiments to alleviate the worst problems.
2. Jump over to some philosophy, usually socialism or communism, that has already proved an abject failure every place it's ever been tried, and then deny reality.
3. Come up with some wild-a*s idea of your own, and spend the rest of your life carrying around a sign and annoying people on the street.
Don't see a fourth. If you do, let me know.
NB: There are no capitalist countries. Plain fact is that all of the "capitalist" economies are mixed capitalist-socialist, more or less either way.
So, you have three choices:
1. Go with what we've got, which has a record of steady if uneven improvement in social, physical, and economic well-being for all. Use relatively small and careful experiments to alleviate the worst problems.
2. Jump over to some philosophy, usually socialism or communism, that has already proved an abject failure every place it's ever been tried, and then deny reality.
3. Come up with some wild-a*s idea of your own, and spend the rest of your life carrying around a sign and annoying people on the street.
Don't see a fourth. If you do, let me know.
NB: There are no capitalist countries. Plain fact is that all of the "capitalist" economies are mixed capitalist-socialist, more or less either way.
Apparently you are too young to have ever heard of the USSR. Maybe you have heard of Cuba?
Ya beat me to it taxslave... But I'll post anyways
The theory behind Communism may talk of achieving this goal, however, all it has ever done is drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator, it's not really poverty if everyone is living that standard, unless of course, you compare that standard against any system that has a hint of capitalism.
Opps almost forgot... Communism does impoverish all except Der Leader and their henchmen, they live in very fine style
Well said
The theory behind Communism may talk of achieving this goal, however, all it has ever done is drag everyone down to the lowest common denominator, it's not really poverty if everyone is living that standard, unless of course, you compare that standard against any system that has a hint of capitalism.
Opps almost forgot... Communism does impoverish all except Der Leader and their henchmen, they live in very fine style
Well said