Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[bluebyrd35]

Do you think your version of gun control will stop criminals? Ours will.

Really.....give examples...and thus more legitimate arrests of criminals by individuals than by law enforcement.

Excerpt from above:

“…Every time I enter the Senate Chamber, I see two armed police officers at the door, one with a handgun and one with an automatic firearm.
I must admit that this does not make me feel safe. On the contrary, I am frightened by the thought that a police officer armed with an automatic weapon could shoot it on the Hill.
How many innocent victims would pay with their lives for this so-called security measure?
In my opinion, it is a serious mistake to arm police officers with these weapons. No matter what, the first victims of an attack will probably be police officers, because people who wish to do harm do not give advance notice.
Security that relies on firepower has proven to be ineffective, and millions of Americans have paid the price for this false assumption with their lives.
I remind you of the incident of October 22, when the intruder—not a terrorist—was shot by Sergeant-at-Arms Kevin Vickers, in full view of the many RCMP officers stationed on the Hill.”


By Liberal Senator Céline Hervieux-Payette





Which leaves only one question: do you have to be a complete moron to be a Liberal?

So only civilians should be allowed to carry concealed weapons and armed law enforcement done away with completely?? There will always be defective humans, as I pointed out. The species is flawed. But allowing the normal and flawed the same access to guns is ridiculous. Of course, the flawed will always use whatever method of getting what they want, by poisoning, stabbing, beating but we need medications, knives and cars. In Canada, there are woundings very often with methods other than by guns but there is a better chance that more survive such methods.

But, what the heck, for myself, I do not give a darn, as I am closer to the end of my lifetime than the middle. It would be comforting to bequeath a mostly carefree lifetime to my children and grandchildren, such as I have experienced. If the gun laws are brought more in line with the laws of those that exist in the US , then they will not have that. That saddens me.

 

[JamesBondo]

But allowing the normal and flawed the same access to guns is ridiculous.

I agree that normal should be allowed more access than the flawed.

Of course, the flawed will always use whatever method of getting what they want, by poisoning, stabbing, beating but we need medications, knives and cars.

The flawed will always have guns. When and how do you propose to disarm the flawed?

In Canada, there are woundings very often with methods other than by guns but there is a better chance that more survive such methods.

Please explain to me how a woman has a better chance of avoiding rape when she is disarmed, and the man crawling through her window has a weapon other than a gun.

But, what the heck, for myself, I do not give a darn, as I am closer to the end of my lifetime than the middle. It would be comforting to bequeath a mostly carefree lifetime to my children and grandchildren, such as I have experienced.

Just like you, even if they live a carefree life, ultimately they are responsible for their own well being.There are times when they may have to be their own doctor, their own fireman, their own security officer. Why would you deprive them of empowering personal security tools like a firearm? Would you deprive them of fire extinguishers or vaccinations? Isn't that sort of cruel of you?

 

[DaSleeper]

Really.....give examples...and thus more legitimate arrests of criminals by individuals than by law enforcement.


So only civilians should be allowed to carry concealed weapons and armed law enforcement done away with completely?? There will always be defective humans, as I pointed out. The species is flawed. But allowing the normal and flawed the same access to guns is ridiculous. Of course, the flawed will always use whatever method of getting what they want, by poisoning, stabbing, beating but we need medications, knives and cars. In Canada, there are woundings very often with methods other than by guns but there is a better chance that more survive such methods.

But, what the heck, for myself, I do not give a darn, as I am closer to the end of my lifetime than the middle. It would be comforting to bequeath a mostly carefree lifetime to my children and grandchildren, such as I have experienced. If the gun laws are brought more in line with the laws of those that exist in the US , then they will not have that. That saddens me.

Do you always make stupid statements like the one in bold? That you actually believe gun owners think like that? Your delusion has now reached a fantastic level................

 

[JLM]

Bluebyrd- You need to take a rest from the gun debate for awhile, maybe give your mind a rest and catch up on some knitting.

 

[bluebyrd35]

I agree that normal should be allowed more access than the flawed.




The flawed will always have guns. When and how do you propose to disarm the flawed?



Please explain to me how a woman has a better chance of avoiding rape when she is disarmed, and the man crawling through her window has a weapon other than a gun.




Just like you, even if they live a carefree life, ultimately they are responsible for their own well being.There are times when they may have to be their own doctor, their own fireman, their own security officer. Why would you deprive them of empowering personal security tools like a firearm? Would you deprive them of fire extinguishers or vaccinations? Isn't that sort of cruel of you?

I am already responsible for my own well being. No need to be my own doctor, fireman, nor security officer. Why the heck do you think we pay taxes ?? That pays for all those things and over and above, my house has an alarm system, mostly because I travel a lot. What have vaccinations or fire extinguishers to do with easing Canada's very effective gun control laws??

Most rapes are done by those known to the victim. It takes only a minute's hesitation and control of the gun is in the attacker's possession. So instead of being simply raped the poor woman is also shot with her own gun, probably by a relative or friend.

JLM ..I do not knit, do you?? I prefer the gym, gardening, carpentry, working in stain glass and even now and then gourmet cooking. I love to travel and shop as well.

This forum only gets my spare time, and as soon as it warms up a bit, I will be putting most of that spare time into BBQ parties by the pool.

DaSleeper, yes that is exactly what some here are advocating. By eliminating the safeguards provided by law enforcement and allowing free access to firearms without adequate control, that is exactly what the end results would be!!

 

[JamesBondo]

Please have your reading glasses checked. I didn't ask you if you knit.

 

[bluebyrd35]

Please have your reading glasses checked. I didn't ask you if you knit.

LOL just couldn't wait could you!!

 

[B00Mer]

Well who really cares what some blue haired bitty thinks about guns... I'm glad she doesn't own one.. This way the world is much safer.. Leave it to the boys who have training in firearms, and enjoy hunting and target shooting.

 

[JamesBondo]

I am already responsible for my own well being. No need to be my own doctor, fireman, nor security officer. Why the heck do you think we pay taxes ?? That pays for all those things and over and above, my house has an alarm system, mostly because I travel a lot. What have vaccinations or fire extinguishers to do with easing Canada's very effective gun control laws??

Most rapes are done by those known to the victim. It takes only a minute's hesitation and control of the gun is in the attacker's possession. So instead of being simply raped the poor woman is also shot with her own gun, probably by a relative or friend.

JLM ..I do not knit, do you?? I prefer the gym, gardening, carpentry, working in stain glass and even now and then gourmet cooking. I love to travel and shop as well.

This forum only gets my spare time, and as soon as it warms up a bit, I will be putting most of that spare time into BBQ parties by the pool.

DaSleeper, yes that is exactly what some here are advocating. By eliminating the safeguards provided by law enforcement and allowing free access to firearms without adequate control, that is exactly what the end results would be!!

What you are saying is extremely rare compared to the 2million defensive gun uses where a crime/assault is prevented without having to fire a shot. If you know someone that doesn't have what it takes to pull the trigger, you should best advise them to have a firearm with no ammo.

 

[B00Mer]

JLM doesn't have faith in the RCMP to protect us properly.

Shortage of what? Incompetent/unprofessional cops?

Which is the reason I am for allowing every Canadian to own a firearm for protection.. as you clearly pointed out, you don't have trust in the police, so one must have trust in oneself for protection.

 

[B00Mer]

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Homeowner shoots man during attempted home invasion

An Ellis County woman shot and injured a man she believed was trying to knock down her back door on Tuesday afternoon, according to the sheriff's office.

It happened in the 1500 block of Saint Andrews Drive in the gated Glen Eagles subdivision eight miles north of Waxahachie.

"The suspect knocked on the front door, attempted to make contact with someone on the front door, and then went around to the back door and started trying to knock the back door in," explained Lt. James Saulter.

"As he was making entry, the homeowner started shooting rounds through the door," Saulter added. "Evidence shows it was definitely a burglary."

Relatives of the suspect said Trent Sinyard, 32, was shot once in the back and also suffered a deep graze in the back of the head. Deputies confirmed that information.

Sinyard was released from the hospital with a bullet in his shoulder and deputies arrested him.

His relatives told News 8 that the 32-year-old man was not trying to break in to the next-door neighbor's house, but rather was looking for the family dog that escaped.

But Sinyard's relatives admitted that the he did not call for help after he was injured.

Deputies found him hiding in the attic of his mother's home next door to the crime scene.

This is the second time in the last year that an Ellis County homeowner has opened fire on a suspect during a home invasion.

"As soon as we know something's going on, we're coming, but our sheriff is very adamant letting homeowners know you have a right to take care of yourself on your property," Saulter said.

source: Homeowner shoots man during attempted home invasion

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This is why I love Texas..

She has the God given right to protect herself and her family!!

 

[Ludlow]

dun mess with texas

 

[B00Mer]

dun mess with texas

Frigging Eh!!

 

[Machjo]

You certainly a ssume a lot about people who own guns......

I have no doubt that there are some gun owners who would like to see stricter gun controls or, even if they support loosening the restrictions, would not swing their vote so easily on that one issue alone. I was just speaking in generalities, not addressing the exceptions.

 

[JLM]

JLM doesn't have faith in the RCMP to protect us properly.

I don't think it's a matter of faith but rather one of ability. Four cops are sent out to subdue an upset foreigner at the airport and within 25 seconds or so he is dead. Do you want these guys protecting you? You have a lot to say about a lot of sh*t, Boomer, but it would help if you were to think for 10 seconds before mouthing off.

 

[B00Mer]

I don't think it's a matter of faith but rather one of ability. Four cops are sent out to subdue an upset foreigner at the airport and within 25 seconds or so he is dead. Do you want these guys protecting you? You have a lot to say about a lot of sh*t, Boomer, but it would help if you were to think for 10 seconds before mouthing off.

Was he subdued?? Job done.. End result a little questionable..

I would prefer cops using taser over bullets.. or would you prefer they shot him..

 

[JLM]

Was he subdued?? Job done.. End result a little questionable..

I would prefer cops using taser over bullets.. or would you prefer they shot him..

Dead is dead. Does it matter what they used?

 

[DaSleeper]

I have no doubt that there are some gun owners who would like to see stricter gun controls or, even if they support loosening the restrictions, would not swing their vote so easily on that one issue alone. I was just speaking in generalities, not addressing the exceptions.

I had a gun locker and trigger locks before it became law, because I had a family, and not because I didn't trust my kids, because they were trained to respect firearms, but their friends might not be so trustworthy....
before I had children only my pistols were under lock and key.....just common sense....non?

Dead is dead. Does it matter what they used?

The odds of dying from a gunshot and from a taser are a bit different.....
And I can almost guaranty that you will have a silly;-) argument against that statement....

 

[JamesBondo]

"gun control" is not all one flavor. gun safes and trigger locks are improved safety measures, I see that as distinctly different than legislation designed to strip me of my freedom.

I don't think it's a matter of faith but rather one of ability. Four cops are sent out to subdue an upset foreigner at the airport and within 25 seconds or so he is dead. Do you want these guys protecting you? You have a lot to say about a lot of sh*t, Boomer, but it would help if you were to think for 10 seconds before mouthing off.

I agree that the incident should never have happened. Four off-duty bar bouncers could have dealt with the situation without killing him.

 

[JLM]

The odds of dying from a gunshot and from a taser are a bit different.....
And I can almost guaranty that you will have a silly;-) argument against that statement....

I think your logic is sadly lacking, Sleepy. Do you really want to start arguing about the fact that Robert Dziekanski is in fact DEAD?