A basic income for all

Angstrom

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Good ideas. And all you need is a few hundred thousand dollars to buy some acreage.

Then all you need is to be in the rat race until you have that money;)

It's only a rat race if you don't save up and have a plan. Oh! Wait that would require intelligence. N/M
 

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He hated it........I love it
 

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No no no. The government is supposed to provide free land. Like the been doing for natives.
it's not the government's land , what are you an idiot. wealthy owners steal land and have an armed force to protect that land. no one created land.
 

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Perhaps whoever dreamt up this hare brained scheme, thinks that if you need more money you just print more. :) :) :) :)

it's not the government's land , what are you an idiot. wealthy owners steal land and have an armed force to protect that land. no one created land.

Maybe your mother has been reading you too many bed time stories. :) :) :) :)
 

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Maybe your mother has been reading you too many bed time stories. :) :) :) :)
Actually, this country was built by squatters. It is written into the BNA act of 1876. When I was squatting in the 1970s a BC government Lands Department employee tried to run me off but I was told by the Government Agent that all I had to do was get a copy of the BNA act and shot it to this guy and tell him that he had no right to run me off, which I did and he did not contest my right to be there. Now they have changed the laws to make squatting more difficult, but I do not know if the original still stands and has precedent over the new ones or not. I would like to see someone challenge them in court.
 

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"Unless we abandon the work ethic of another era, lives may be wasted because of blind insistence that everyone must have a "job" even if the job is useless". - Pierre Merton

"The assurance of a certain minimum income for everyone appears to be a wholly legitimate protection against a risk common to all." - Friedrich Hayek

"True individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. Necessitous men are not free men. " - Franklin D Roosevelt.

"We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everyone has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because he must justify he right to exist." Buckminster Fuller
 

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Can panhandling income be taxed? Nope! Knock yourself out. Panhandle enough to build your own goddamn steel mill.
 
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gore0bsessed

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Where do you find the land that hasn't already been stolen by the bourgeoisie? How do you keep competitive with the highly exploitative practices of outsourcing of labour?

Why the hell did I reply to that moronic garbage.
 

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Where do you find the land that hasn't already been stolen by the bourgeoisie? How do you keep competitive with the highly exploitative practices of outsourcing of labour?

I get it now... All you need is a slice of land and steel mills and manufacturing plants simply drop out of the sky, filled with all the machinery and raw materials necessary.

Thanks for clearing up that wee bit of confusion

Why the hell did I reply to that moronic garbage.


Correction: the question here is why do you provide such moronic replies?
 

JLM

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"Unless we abandon the work ethic of another era, lives may be wasted because of blind insistence that everyone must have a "job" even if the job is useless". - Pierre Merton

"The assurance of a certain minimum income for everyone appears to be a wholly legitimate protection against a risk common to all." - Friedrich Hayek

"True individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. Necessitous men are not free men. " - Franklin D Roosevelt.

"We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everyone has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because he must justify he right to exist." Buckminster Fuller

We don't have to "invent" any f**king jobs. WE could probably put 100 thousand to work today across North America picking up garbage and another 50 thousand nabbing criminals! :)

I get it now... All you need is a slice of land and steel mills and manufacturing plants simply drop out of the sky, filled with all the machinery and raw materials necessary.

Thanks for clearing up that wee bit of confusion




Correction: the question here is why do you provide such moronic replies?

Why reply? The man's an idiot!
 

gore0bsessed

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I get it now...

you clearly don't

We don't have to "invent" any f**king jobs. WE could probably put 100 thousand to work today across North America picking up garbage and another 50 thousand nabbing criminals! :)



Why reply? The man's an idiot!
you're talking about inventing jobs, work just for the sake of working. "hey we have no jerbs for everyone , let's just give 100k people jobs picking up garbage"' hahahahahha
 

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You would be amazed at just how many jobs there are, if you are hungry and do not receive a government stipend.

I say, unless a person is so physically or mentally disabled that they can not work, there should be absolutely NOTHING provided to them in the way of cash or cash equivalents.

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with being a dishwasher, a "bus boy", a waiter/waitress, a common laborer, a farm laborer, a warehouse worker, etc. I have personally worked at ALL of those things, and I NEVER had the slightest difficulty finding a job. I have worked many jobs at "minimum wage", and sometimes below that in restaurants where I received tips.

I used that work to keep me going, while I sought better employment. In restaurant work, I began as a dishwasher, advanced to Bus Boy, then to Waiter, where I made pretty good money with tips. I also worked as a restaurant cook (American, Mexican and Chinese food cook).

I also happen to be a High School dropout (not my choice), never finishing my Junior (3rd) year of high school. I worked very hard, starting at a Community (Junior) College, and eventually earned my Doctorate in Rehabilitation Counseling. I STILL do not have a High School Diploma!

I get so tired of people whining about how they can't find a job. The truth is, they refuse to do a job that they don't like. There is no such thing as a "bad job", a job brings in money, and ANY job can be used as a "stepping stone" to something better.

You may also have to relocate to obtain employment. So what, a job is a job is a job. Having a paying job is FAR better than being on the "Dole".

I have worked for many years with severely disabled teens and adults. Almost all of them wanted nothing more than to be able to work in a competitive job setting (meaning regular work). Many studies have shown that employers are far better off employing such people, as their absenteeism is FAR better than their non-disabled peers, their work ethic is far better, and they are not constantly leaving work.

A basic "allowance" for every person in a country would be EXTREMELY detrimental to the people of a country. You would be paying people to sit on their behinds, and just collect from the government.

People MUST learn to be self-supporting, or their country is going to "go to hell in a hand basket".
 

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sorry no one carēs about your archaic and wrong views. nor your exaggeration on how many jobs there are,. jobs are becoming obsolete due to automation.

a basic income is coming. that's not the question. but when and will it be implemented properly.
 

JLM

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you clearly don't


you're talking about inventing jobs, work just for the sake of working. "hey we have no jerbs for everyone , let's just give 100k people jobs picking up garbage"' hahahahahha

How about working for the sake of money and self respect?
 

JLM

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You would be amazed at just how many jobs there are, if you are hungry and do not receive a government stipend.

I say, unless a person is so physically or mentally disabled that they can not work, there should be absolutely NOTHING provided to them in the way of cash or cash equivalents.

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with being a dishwasher, a "bus boy", a waiter/waitress, a common laborer, a farm laborer, a warehouse worker, etc. I have personally worked at ALL of those things, and I NEVER had the slightest difficulty finding a job. I have worked many jobs at "minimum wage", and sometimes below that in restaurants where I received tips.


I'm glad to see someone sees the picture. There's no such thing as a bad job even if all it does is puts you in touch with people and show cases your ability and work ethic.