2015; Does Stephen Harper and the Conservatives deserve another chance?
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Look, you belligerent little pecker head, you have been spewing lies and BS about me for years. You have no idea who I am or what I do or believe. You expect me to treat you like a human being, you will have to start doing the same thing. Now go off into a corner and lick your balls.
You'v bitched and whined enough about being on a fixed income of disability and now OAS that everybody knows. You've spread you around.
Yes, the Greatest Generation. The best of those gave their lives,miso we could have first world problems like this. When there was a concept that we weren't just taxpayers, but citizens. Hats off to those guys!
If you have to borrow it might mean you have not earned enough or saved enough or both, which could make your need to go into debt necessary but it could not make the debt good. Debt is understood to be a deficiency not ever good under any circumstance. It's this sloppy philosophy of "good debt" that has brought the western world to its knees. The alternative to starvation is work and that fact is universal and imperishable. Could it be that you have confused the short term convienience of debt with an inate good? I think so. Remind me not to enroll in any of your economic classes. Next you will tell me about the wonderful fragrance of dog poop which you believe can be picked up by the clean end.
If you have to borrow it might mean you have not earned enough or saved enough or both, which could make your need to go into debt necessary but it could not make the debt good. Debt is understood to be a deficiency not ever good under any circumstance. It's this sloppy philosophy of "good debt" that has brought the western world to its knees. The alternative to starvation is work and that fact is universal and imperishable. Could it be that you have confused the short term convienience of debt with an inate good? I think so. Remind me not to enroll in any of your economic classes. Next you will tell me about the wonderful fragrance of dog poop which you believe can be picked up by the clean end.
Good debt on a personal level equates to something like getting a mortgage to buy a home... Bad would be borrowing money to pay rent (read: someone elses mortgage).
On a national level, good debt is the construction of roads, sewer treatment, ports, airports and hospitals... Bad debt, like Greece, to fund welfare and entitlement programs.
You're only fooling yourself if you believe that a person (or nation) can pay 'cash' up front for the necessities of life
Just because you are blinded by partisan politics and can't see the connection doesn't mean there is no connection.
What entitlements? Geez to get a dollar, they have to spend two or more to prove they deserve those entitlements.
At least in Canada, once they more or less prove they are entitled it is not too bad. Here in the US, most of the post operative/PTS treatments get the biggest support from donations from the public. What the heck. A country that sends young people to war, MUST assume the cost of treating them for any and all traumas incurred. However, that has not been the case in many, many instances.
Now, I feel my income tax has risen because I can buy less for my money. The middle class is expected to keep the economy perking along through their earning and buying power, but if anyone thinks this is happening had better look again. The tax breaks go to the rich and corporations and rise less than the cost of living even if the government raises the personal exemptions. As a result, the rich get richer and the middle class and the poor do not. The raises given to the middle class are based on the cost of living which is reduced by what?? 3% before it even counts??
That would make a great sound bite for a politician. It's not really true but it does sound good.
BLUEBYRD- I have a question for you. Besides the cost of food, housing, clothing, healthcare, transportation, dental, entertainment, charitable donations, how much do you think a person should pay for the privilege of living in a country for a year? $25,000, 50,000, $100,000? How much?
So how much are those renovations costing the middle aged folks?
So you imply that you could rebut bluebyrd with the true pictures which you no doubt have in your purse, but you do not. Is thwere some reason that your posts are so little filled with details and figures? Are you to exhausted by the one empty sentence and simply can't tax your fingers further to add some quality to your otherwise poor reply?
And still you insist on the oxymoronic "good debt" which is good only to the creditor not the forkin debtor. Debt is odious. The Greek debt incured by Greece and its deal with Goldman Sachs was two thirds consumed by that nations Oligarcs the stae never saw it. This is the lever being used by the new Greek government to dump the Euro which they will do in eighteen days followed by four other disgruntled EU partners in stupid odious EU debt. The necessities of life are provided by the hands on the ends of your arms, labour builds all wealth and that is and has been a natural fact since day one. Cash will get you nothing unless first it is converted to labour. Yours or someone elses cash keeps tally on your real or potential labour, the paper is worthless otherwise. Soon an American ten spot won't get you a potatoe.
You are going about that the wrong way. How much does it cost to keep a country running. To keep roads, bridges, garbage collection etc. What is the amount you feel is needed to actually support the services a government has been charged to run?? How many of us approve of giving financial aid in the form of food, clothing, tents even supporting schools and books etc to help developing countries help themselves. How many of us would vote against providing arms and armies instead??
We are not paying for the privilege of living in this country rather we are paying the politicians to manage it!! We provide their salaries and we must demand that they do the job they signed on for. Think of them as the head of a Financial Institution......How long would any of them last in such a job if they ran the company as though they owned it??? Politicians govern because we allow them to. We even allow them to set their own salaries!!
As far as what taxes we should pay, it should be graduated. I do not want to may more tax as a middle class Canadian as that of the 1% rich do, nor should corporation get away without paying their fair share.
Most politicians forget very shortly from whence their salaries come, after taking office, hence the necessity of throwing them out of office regularly.
You have a perfect right to decide what you WANT to pay for and you should vote for the politician who will make that provision for you. While there are filthy rich people who don't pay any INCOME tax there's no one in the country who avoids tax altogether. Anyway there is no chance that anyone in say the bottom 97% of the population will pay more tax than the top 1%. So you can put that worry aside (unless you are in the top 2 or 3 percent.