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Why No One Should Join the Canadian Forces
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My oh my, where do I start. What shear rubbish!
First of all, the military instills discipline and order. Some of the young punks today have no discipline or even self-control and would benefit greatly from doing 2 years. Hell, they'd even benefit from just joining the reserves!!
Secondly, the career paths are many and varied - not just shooting guns and tanks. Many of our public service trades people are ex-military. My husband had no problem getting and keeping work after he retired. (He did 3 tours over seas in Egypt and Cyprus).
Thirdly, while there may be a "few veterans" that feel they haven't received their due, (and I'm not saying they're wrong because no one, especially the media, knows exactly what their issues are and they're likely varied and complex) the vast majority are treated fairly and with compassion. My father-in-law, two brothers and my husband are all ex-military; one of whom got a medical discharge due to injuries incurred while in the military.. Veterans affairs have been nothing but decent to him and he's received (and still receiving) whatever resources he needs. He said his "worker" bends over backwards to ensure he gets what he needs.
My father-in-law passed away 6 years ago and his widow is well taken care of. Veterans affairs is ensuring she is able to stay in her home by assisting her, financially, in having people do her grocery shopping, shovel walks, mow her lawn etc., etc. She has no complaints.
What irks me is that a few complain and the public figures ALL injured military members are treated like sh**t. That's simply not true. Another analogy would be that all men are wife beaters and mass murders because of recent headlines depicting men who murder their families - but of course, that's not true either. It pisses me off quite frankly.
The military is whatever you want it to be for you, the same as any other occupation. The pay is reasonably good, as is the pension when you put in the required time. Of course there are dangers aka Iraq, but you know that going in that there's a possibility that you'll have to actually shoot someone.
It annoys me to no end that so many people, including politicians, have no idea of what they're talking about and taking TV news as gospel from the likes of CBC et al. Were it that simple!
JMHO
Perhaps, and they can try to get in if they see that. No one should ever be forced in. If someone wants to lead an undisciplined disorderly life - well, its theirs to do with as they please.
I hear you. I was a public servant all my working life, while we weren't the highest paid, we certainly were compensated in other ways, one being that unless we committed multi axe murders we were pretty well assured of a job. But there were always 10-15% who were chronic and habitual whiners...............always wanting more for doing less. I always made enough to feed, clothe and house the family with enough left over for a beer on a Saturday night. When people sign up for Afghanistan or Iraq, they know they may come back missing an arm or a leg or worse.
It is usually Canadian kids from geographic regions of none sustaninable economic activity,the children are from middle class or lower income homes who enlist in the army.
Treated by the government? Don't you mean treated by Canadians. We are the ones who stand idle.
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BS
Kind of an unfair example don't you think.
That's like me saying that about Crisis Hotline Operators because Ted Bundy happened to be one.
Nonsense, sir! You piss and moan on the internet! You have parades! You stand on the overpasses and wave Canadian flags!
Who could possibly ask for more?
More. There is much more that should be done for our vets. Sticking a little yellow ribbon magnet on your car is hollow if you do not demand that something be done. Canadians as whole are failing our veterans miserably.
Yes, but it's also shallow.
Probably. Though as I've said here before, I think there should be a distinction between the vets who do a tour in Afghanistan and the ones who spend their enlistments filing papers in Manitoba.
My husband lived in Sask. and my brothers in BC at the time of their enlistment so while there are those in the military from Eastern Canada many more are from Quebec, Ontario the prairies and BC. Those I met in my hubby's 20+ years of service were from all over Canada and from all walks of life. You cannot "assume" that individuals join because they are poor. That is a generalization that is simply not true in my experience.
JMHO
I always thought Canada was a country where we had the freedom to make choices within the confines of the law. A person should do his/her "homework" and be thoroughly cognizant of the benefits and responsibilities.
Horse manure. Soldiers were lining up to go to Afghanistan so clearly the compensation was adaquate. The world is full of people that engage in high risk behaviour then complain when it bites them in the ***.
I've made my kids promise that if I were ever killed at a fire scene, there would be none of the Hollywood hero bull**** at my funeral. That type of stuff is pathetic.
Not that I believe you're a fire fighter, but did you make them promise to turn down the fat insurance payout too?
Never discussed it with them. That's probably due to the fact that they wouldn't get one. The insurance settlement (while maybe considered fat to a disadvantaged person like yourself) would be no different than the settlement paid to any other employee of the municipality. That is as it should be.
Don't be silly. I don't believe in that Dipper mentality. I'll leave it to folks like you.
Don't be so silly. Dippers appeal to those people like yourself that believe they are disadvantaged.
Do you also believe an insurance payout if your house burns down is also an entitlement? I think you've been living in left wing Ontario too long.