Senate Report On CIA Torture

Goober

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Absolutely correct. Politically motivated and nothing new. Everyone knows the war crimes of GWB and his sidekick. Those guys should be in San Quentin.
And Harper? Canada is not innocent in this.
Pelosi, not innocent.
 

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I recall in Iraq, a Marine Col, troops were under fire, from mortars???, they had captured a few of those that were attacking. Not one would talk. He puts the pistol to the guys head, asks him again, he got the info and coordinates.

That's a far cry from letting someone freeze to death or water-boarding to the point of unconsciousness, Goob.
 

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And Harper? Canada is not innocent in this.
Pelosi, not innocent.

Thats why no one will do anything about it. Opens them up to having to deal with people coming after them when they step down.

Will BHO be included in this?

Maybe all the drone strikes he ordered will qualify as illegal too

That seems to get talked about quite a bit since it became a big thing too. Some probably were illegal.

Written by Democrats.

I dont think the parties matter much. Both have a hand in this.
 

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Oh this is rich.

Russia calls US torture report 'shocking'

Putin is lovin' every minute of this - you betcha.

And it's right that he does, and so do I. Putin and company will write the next historys. It's a wonderful time to be alive and watch an Empire fail, this will be two for me. The Chinese have done this before, lots of times, I think the planet will be in better hands.


The days of the Wild West are over.
 

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That's a far cry from letting someone freeze to death or water-boarding to the point of unconsciousness, Goob.

I agree. I also mentioned it was poorly run.
I do think that usable intel was gathered.
Do I like it nope.
 

darkbeaver

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I agree. I also mentioned it was poorly run.
I do think that usable intel was gathered.
Do I like it nope.

The bigger lever of torture like this is to reach the wider audiance, torture is useless otherwise. None of these tortured people could have saved anyone. Everyone got the torture thing during and after the rape of Iraq. If you can torture someone, professonally, you,re not human. If you can condone it, you're not human. That's not to say I'm different, but those are the rules.
 

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The bigger lever of torture like this is to reach the wider audiance, torture is useless otherwise. None of these tortured people could have saved anyone. Everyone got the torture thing during and after the rape of Iraq. If you can torture someone, professonally, you,re not human. If you can condone it, you're not human. That's not to say I'm different, but those are the rules.

Beav
Everyone with a lick of sense knew it was going on.
 

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I just listened to Bill O'Reilly trying to rip and bully John McCain over his disapproval of torture. He failed. Miserably.

McCain is the man.

He should have been President.
 

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I just listened to Bill O'Reilly trying to rip and bully John McCain over his disapproval of torture. He failed. Miserably.

McCain is the man.

He should have been President.
He probably would have been if not for Palin.
 

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Palin was what made the election somewhat close, otherwise BHO would have won all 57 states.

She was too much of a loose cannon. He felt he needed the far right support she represented but she tended to speak off the cuff without much sober second thought which is always dangerous in a politician. She also was not the brightest bulb in the Christmas tree and combined with the speaking off the cuff, it killed her.

I think MaCain could have won the presidency with somebody else. But he was pretty much constrained by his party with the need for a far right candidate as VP. With that canidate (but not Palin) I think it would have been closer but still a defeat.

Personally, she made the campaign entertaining. Well, her and the SNL gal who did her.

And I think there are only 50 states. Are you telling me Obama has lost 7 states? Damn him.
 

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Naw....McCain was simply caught in the "I hate Bush" hopey-changey wave. It wouldn't have mattered who was the VP.

A shame really, as McCain hated Bush more than most Democrats.
 

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As did all of congress including your beloved Pelosi.



BBC News - CIA interrogation report: Who knew what when?




It says members of the House Intelligence Committee were briefed on the activities but it does not indicate if they were fully apprised of what went on: "The CIA did not respond to requests for extra information. The committee does not have its own records on this briefing."

Oh this is rich.

Russia calls US torture report 'shocking'

Putin is lovin' every minute of this - you betcha.



All the more reason for the moral guarantor of the universe to keep its troops home and to stop being so self righteous and holier-than-thou about other injustices throughout the world.

Eagle,


And GITMO is still open.




Republicans Finally Admit That They, Not Obama, Are Preventing Gitmo Civilian Trials



House Republican Defense Bill Blocks Guantanamo Closing



No surprise as to why ....
 

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Colpy I have always believed in "If you're caught you're shot" I am opposed to torture
and the antics of the CIA in this case. To state they did it to keep the land secure means
fear has replaced hope. And yes we have told the world we are a superior society and
then behave like those we condemn.
Of course the caught you're shot theme is the cry for total war. That of course means
the articles of war would be torn up in this case.
I think we should take the gloves off and show them just what resolve we have, we don't
need torture but there would be one hell of a pile of bodies to deal with.