Goal to end fossil fuels by 2050 surfaces in Lima UN climate documents

EagleSmack

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GW is coming and all the BS about treaties is just that BS.
And if anyone thinks the developing world will sacrifice jobs, education, economic expansion for a surging population that is dirt poor, improvement in heath care.

Of course they won't and they are not even required too.

No one has been proven to be a con artist and just because some people aren't examples of environmental pariahs does not mean climate change does not exist.

Climate change has always existed. Gosh alarmists are soooooo slooooooow.

I have no idea why you would think that the personal actions of the people organizing an event would compromise the science on climate change but there is no correlation between the two.

 

petros

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We need to give the poor that live in huts solar panels so they can remain impoverished without an energy grid and infrastructure to run industry.
 

mentalfloss

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Look, if you are going to make a case against AGW because of the carbon footprint of this event, then I am not convinced.

It means as much to me as pointing out Neil Young drives a gas guzzling Hummer or that Al Gore's house is it's own oilsands operation.

Believe me, I'm a skeptic so there would be nothing more pleasing to me to be proven wrong on this issue.
 

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Look, if you are going to make a case against AGW because of the carbon footprint of this event, then I am not convinced.

It means as much to me as pointing out Neil Young drives a gas guzzling Hummer or that Al Gore's house is it's own oilsands operation.

Believe me, I'm a skeptic so there would be nothing more pleasing to me to be proven wrong on this issue.

Playing devil's advocate, assume that GW is a proven fact (just to be clear this is not what I believe), Neil Young and Al Gore are not helping fix GW with their carbon footprints that are bigger than your's and mine put together. How do you expect to give your movement credence when your self declared leaders are hypocrites?
 

mentalfloss

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It's true buddy.

I ****ing hate this **** as much as you do.


Playing devil's advocate, assume that GW is a proven fact (just to be clear this is not what I believe), Neil Young and Al Gore are not helping fix GW with their carbon footprints that are bigger than your's and mine put together. How do you expect to give your movement credence when your self declared leaders are hypocrites?


It just strengthens my point that the solution is a top down policy that forces the industry to shift to renewables.
 

mentalfloss

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You f***** hate this....Please spare us. Please.

When we get to stop discussing this problem and the fight is over I'll be happy.

We can laugh it off over a beer (or five).

I got your back for one - just give me your PayPal account lol
 

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EagleSmack

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When we get to stop discussing this problem and the fight is over I'll be happy.

We can laugh it off over a beer (or five).

I got your back for one - just give me your PayPal account lol

What problem? I'm sorry if you're afraid.

I am already laughing at it over a beer (or five). Alarmists are funny... they provide me humor.
 

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Look, if you are going to make a case against AGW because of the carbon footprint of this event, then I am not convinced.

It means as much to me as pointing out Neil Young drives a gas guzzling Hummer or that Al Gore's house is it's own oilsands operation.

Believe me, I'm a skeptic so there would be nothing more pleasing to me to be proven wrong on this issue.

We are not laughing at the gullibility of the GW alarmists because of the carbon footprint of this event alone.

We are laughing at the gullibility of GW alarmists because those that are pushing it obviously don't believe it....

The carbon footprint of this event.

The next event, planned in Paris.......lol

Al Gore's huge mansions. His sale of his TV station to Qatar at tens of millions of profit.

Neil Young drives an electric car.....worth $1 million. His last one burst into flames, and burned down his garage and several classic cars. He touts it as the answer to GW. Neil is just whacked. Oh, and he has a couple of mansions. And he flies around on a private jet.

The "spokesperson" Leonardo DiCaprio.........drives a Tesla sometimes, which the taxpayer contributed tens of thousands towards.
Visited the World Cup on the world's fifth biggest yacht, owned by an oil baron, and jetted in 30 of his closest friends to party. How many mansions??

Michael Mann, who sues anyone that dares cross him in print or media.............but won't carry it through to the point where his research might be examined. His "hockey stick" has become a joke, his claims to be a Nobel Prize winner scream "con artist".

David Suzuki.....mansion, jets, and a demand that skeptic politicians be jailed. Gee there's a credit to progressives!!

Cameron, outraged at the oilsands, flying up here on his private jet to lecture us.

The Pause.

The question is not how could we not believe?? It is how could you actually trust these people?
 

EagleSmack

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I have no idea why my thread was merged into this one!

C'mon Loc! What gives?!!!!

Alarmists post two or three alarmist threads a day in here!
 

mentalfloss

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None of that proves any claim that AGW doesn't exist.

It proves that the better alternative (on energy) isn't ready yet.
 

taxslave

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It's true buddy.

I ****ing hate this **** as much as you do.





It just strengthens my point that the solution is a top down policy that forces the industry to shift to renewables.

How do you force industry to shift to something that does not exist? Look at what happened to the Hydrogen fuel cell busses in Vancouver. That is really clean energy but it is not cost effective yet. Many of the same people that protest fossil fuels also protest run of river hydro projects.
 

EagleSmack

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How do you force industry to shift to something that does not exist? Look at what happened to the Hydrogen fuel cell busses in Vancouver. That is really clean energy but it is not cost effective yet. Many of the same people that protest fossil fuels also protest run of river hydro projects.

I love it... love it.... LOVE IT!

Cape Wind project now $10M over budget | Boston Herald

Those NIMBY beautiful people on the Cape... Kennedy's et all... wanted alternative fuel sources but not in their back yard. Now look.

$10 MILLION over budget! Get ready to pay insane rates you libtards!

We've all been had folks.

You heard it here first.

You're just finding out? As I said a few posts ago... Alarmists are sooooo sloooooow.
 

taxslave

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Same here. Several years ago there was a proposal to build a wind farm not far from the good dr. Suzuki's mansion. You could hear the howls of outrage for 100 miles from the greenies that infest the area. Among other things they were concerned the windmills would destroy their ocean views and lower property values.

Kind of the opposite end of the same island is a sea current generator going in at one of the resorts. Has potential in areas like this with good current but not sure what happens at slack tides or times of peak demand.
 

EagleSmack

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Same here. Several years ago there was a proposal to build a wind farm not far from the good dr. Suzuki's mansion. You could hear the howls of outrage for 100 miles from the greenies that infest the area. Among other things they were concerned the windmills would destroy their ocean views and lower property values.

That is exactly how the greenies and wealthy libs on Cape Cod sounded. Especially the Kennedy's. After decades of preaching of the need to have alternative energy they were aghast when they found out the Wind Farm was going to be right off the Kennedy Compound and destroy their view and yachting!

And all over Massachusetts the alarmists cry of global warming but when they want to put a windmill on a hill in their neighborhood... well the NIMBYs are outraged!
 

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so the earth's climate has always changed and we're suppose to stop that. I get it now.