What Should Be The Correct Size Of The Federal Government?

Corduroy

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25,000 is about as many jobs as the Conservative party created in the civil service when they came to power in 2006. So these jobs disappear apparently unnoticed. Did anyone notice these jobs when they appeared? The article you quoted rests its argument on the fact that the Conservatives refuse to say where these jobs were lost. Doesn't that seem fishy?
 

Colpy

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25,000 is about as many jobs as the Conservative party created in the civil service when they came to power in 2006. So these jobs disappear apparently unnoticed. Did anyone notice these jobs when they appeared? The article you quoted rests its argument on the fact that the Conservatives refuse to say where these jobs were lost. Doesn't that seem fishy?

Yep. It takes us back to where we started..........

And no, I can not explain the Conservative fetish for secrecy.
 

JLM

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25,000 is about as many jobs as the Conservative party created in the civil service when they came to power in 2006. So these jobs disappear apparently unnoticed. Did anyone notice these jobs when they appeared? The article you quoted rests its argument on the fact that the Conservatives refuse to say where these jobs were lost. Doesn't that seem fishy?


The number of jobs is not the issue, it's the usefulness of the jobs! I think this summer has demonstrated to us adequately that several hundred jobs are needed in British Columbia just to clear flammable debris in the interface of populated areas. I predict they will never transpire and it won't be long before we have another scorching summer as bad or worse than this one when again many $millions will be "pissed down the drain" fighting more unnecessary fires.
 

Sons of Liberty

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Obviously you find something offensive in Gopher's statement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??

I don't find it offensive, I find about 10% of what he says is erroneous and the other 90% he's just off his rocker.

Obviously he never read Jefferson or other Founders in their writings about their disdain for standing armies.

I've read more about the Constitution, the founding fathers writings, the federalist papers and any new discovery remotely associated with the US Constitution than you will ever hope to achieve. You take take comments out of context and then you add your own personal whacko logic and come up with opinions that will leave my eight year old nephew scratching his head.

Please explain to me where you came up with No Standing army. Go ahead, make an idiot out of me.
 
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Corduroy

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The number of jobs is not the issue, it's the usefulness of the jobs!

The government doesn't cut jobs because they aren't useful. They cut jobs because they want the budget to look good. There's an election next year and federal employees and contractors are on notice.
 

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Please explain to me where you came up with No Standing army. Go ahead, make an idiot out of me.



No need for me to do that as you're doing a fine job all by yourself. ;)

We have discussed our Founders and their views on this subject several times over the years. Click on search at the top of the page and you will find my earlier links and direct quotes from them on the subject.

Kind of hard to expand or even maintain an empire without a standing army.


That is true but the USA was not founded upon the idea that it is to be policeman of the world or its conqueror. In fact Washington demanded that we refrain from all forms of foreign entanglements {op cit}.
 

MHz

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Zero and all services would be retained but the Provincial Governments would be the ones answering the phones. Ottawa was needed back in the pony express days. As long as we have electronic communication there is no need to duplicate survives and Ottawa is inefficient because there are too many hands in the stew. Up the unemployment income For everybody) and send everyone home. That income would be circulated around the entertainment industry (VR in every rec-room) and individual sports (tourism) and hobbies. Machine shop in small garage.

Kind of hard to expand or even maintain an empire without a standing army.
Without one you would be over-run quickly and if the educated ones arent rounded up and killed then war has changed but it would be 'the remnant' that would be a population like Gaza who takes up a large percentage of Israel's total time for how big they are. That 'revolt' would still turn the tide and they didn't have to face the experience and dangers of having a standing army in a time or 'relative calm'. Israel draw up any plans to invade NY, of course not, they could never win so they would annihilate it like it was an Arab village in 1947 as tactic probably haven't changed in that short amount of time. It is stupid to have an army that is not being used to it's maximum potential.

The government doesn't cut jobs because they aren't useful. They cut jobs because they want the budget to look good. There's an election next year and federal employees and contractors are on notice.
They don't cut jobs because their asses would be the first ones deemed 'redundant' now GTF out and leave the pension at the door. They will quit squirming once they see what the bankers face.
 

gopher

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The 2d Amendment furnishes us with the right to keep and bear weapons in order to insure that no foreign power could make any effort to overcome us. Costa Rica has no standing army and they are at peace. Who in their right wing would try to overtake a country like ours that is so much bigger?
 

MHz

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The 2d Amendment furnishes us with the right to keep and bear weapons in order to insure that no foreign power could make any effort to overcome us. Costa Rica has no standing army and they are at peace. Who in their right wing would try to overtake a country like ours that is so much bigger?
Until a war they are hunters and target shooters. You want to play triathalon with a tank that will be $1,000/shell, 10 clip minimum.
Bear weapons means something you can carry, one shooter and two ammo carriers is the route I would follow.

Why did we allow the foreign banks to take over printing our money at a price of $30B/year? If we didn't we would need to finance a standing army to battle terrorist acts and the other things pulled that would put the bill at $300B/ year for the right to print our own money.
 

gopher

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Until a war they are hunters and target shooters. You want to play triathalon with a tank that will be $1,000/shell, 10 clip minimum.
Bear weapons means something you can carry, one shooter and two ammo carriers is the route I would follow.

Why did we allow the foreign banks to take over printing our money at a price of $30B/year? If we didn't we would need to finance a standing army to battle terrorist acts and the other things pulled that would put the bill at $300B/ year for the right to print our own money.


Good luck to anyone fool enough to try to invade Gopherland where some guys have more rifles than some women have shoes in their closets.
 

MHz

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I don't even want to know why you are in a woman's closet. Get back to the garage (or basement) where you belong.
 

JamesBondo

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it is important to lay off unneeded federal workers. Do you want to become another USA? their debt is $150,000 per taxpayer. That is basically like making a mortgage payment on a house you don't get to live in.
 

darkbeaver

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Canadas government should be just the right size to stuff in a container and sent to the eastern front of Ukraine where they could defend their idiot policies, real time, expensive shoes on the ground there so intent destroying.