Is the US a Christian country?
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He's hinting at this.
Jer. 25:9
I will summon all the peoples of the north and my servant Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon," declares the LORD, "and I will bring them against this land and its inhabitants and against all the surrounding nations. I will completely destroy them and make them an object of horror and scorn, and an everlasting ruin.
By the way, I have no idea what a Christian is. Our sister, Motar, has tried to explain it, but her definition leaves most denominations out.
At the core of American life the Christian nation thing is repeated time after time
If you look at the facts the founders might have been Christians however they
wanted a separation of church and state cause they knew what the mismanagement
of power would do.
America is in the grip of those who have succumbed to frear over promise and hope
and those who believe we are in the end times.
America even with all its warts is still better than the alternatives. How many want to
buy a house in Gaza for example?
its time America realized the special interest group claiming they are being manipulated
by special interest groups is really leading us to hell in a hand basket
If you look at the facts the founders might have been Christians however they
wanted a separation of church and state cause they knew what the mismanagement
of power would do.
America is in the grip of those who have succumbed to frear over promise and hope
and those who believe we are in the end times.
America even with all its warts is still better than the alternatives. How many want to
buy a house in Gaza for example?
its time America realized the special interest group claiming they are being manipulated
by special interest groups is really leading us to hell in a hand basket
The Lord was a Persian, at that time, perhaps. What is a Christian? Nothing I ever read answered the question.
denominations are evolutionary, it's like a tree who can't see it's roots anymore, not even aware that they exist.
If Christians from 1100 met current Christians, at a large field of roses, would it be so long before a crusade started?
The 7 letters in Re:2 and 3 gives some qualities that God likes in people and what He doesn't like in people. Trying to do more of one and less of the other is about all you can do as everyone is more or less along for the ride. (for the 3 1/2 years prior to the day all sinners are put into the grave.
The 1/3 left alive in Zec:13 are the ones that will survive the few hours it takes for the 7 vials to be poured out on. They would be repented Gentiles and their repenting took place within that last few years. Daniel has a period of 1290 listed, that includes 30 days prior to the 5th trump sounding as to when the 144,000 and a few Gentiles are sealed for protection from all the trumps. The first 4 trumps sound at the rate of 1/day and then the 5th and 6th take up 1260 days. Another time mentioned in Daniel is 1335 days and that would be the 1290 days and the 45 days after the day the 7th trump sounds and in that time all the Gentiles that are the Church as no Gentile is exempt from the verse below. In that 45 days 'the Church' walks to Israel so that they come from the East. The heat from the fire that melted Satan's Babylon has dried up the Euphrates so the 'kings of the nations' have free access to Jerusalem after seeing all the ruined cities along the way. When they get there Christ will have built a House of Prayer and the river in Eze:47 is where the Church will go to be glorified. (immortal body and sinless heart) That 'trek' will be the 40 day fast of the Church.
Re:1:7:
Behold,
he cometh with clouds;
and every eye shall see him,
and they also which pierced him:
and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.
Even so,
Amen.
Zec:13:8:
And it shall come to pass,
that in all the land,
saith the LORD,
two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
but the third shall be left therein.
Zec:13:9:
And I will bring the third part through the fire,
and will refine them as silver is refined,
and will try them as gold is tried:
they shall call on my name,
and I will hear them:
I will say,
It is my people:
and they shall say,
The LORD is my God.
Zec:14:16:
And it shall come to pass,
that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King,
the LORD of hosts,
and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Isa:56:6-8:
Also the sons of the stranger,
that join themselves to the LORD,
to serve him,
and to love the name of the LORD,
to be his servants,
every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it,
and taketh hold of my covenant;
Even them will I bring to my holy mountain,
and make them joyful in my house of prayer:
their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar;
for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith,
Yet will I gather others to him,
beside those that are gathered unto him.
I'm fairly certain after all this time reading your posts that you are not aware of brain damage. That's not to say I'm not actually brain damaged it just means that someone must have told you recently about this brain thing.
There are but a few who can "see through a glass, darkly." The rest are blind to their own image, DB is one of the few.
One more and they did most of the hard math for you. The part they missed is the height would make it look like a phallic symbol so the earth also gets resized by the same factor that is used on the temple/city.
Ezekiel's City: Calculating the Earth's Circumference
The Basic Idea
Assuming that all thirteen strips of land are the same width, or rather, assuming that Ezekiel's small-scale representation was intended to represent thirteen strips of land of the same width, we have a map that from top to bottom is:
13 x 25,000 cubits = 325,000 cubits.
Now we are ready for our calculations. Perhaps the simplest way to put it is this: If we enlarge Ezekiel's map till Ezekiel's city is the size of Revelation's New Jerusalem, then Ezekiel's map encircles the globe.
The proportion of Ezekiel's city to Revelation's New Jerusalem is the same as that of Ezekiel's map to the earth's circumference:
Ezekiel's Map / Ezekiel's City * Revelation's City = Earth's Circumference
Calculations a Bit Off
Let's first use the furlong that most references tend to use, the English furlong of 660 feet. Since the New Jerusalem is 3,000 furlongs to a side,
660 ft. x 3,000 furlongs / (5,280 feet / mi.) = 375 mi. (603.49 km)
Now we plug in the 4,500-cubit length of Ezekiel's city and the theoretical 325,000-cubit length of Ezekiel's map: 325,000 cu. / 4,500 cu. * 375 mi. = 27,083 mi. (43,585 km)
This amounts to an error of just under +9%, which is close enough to be intriguing.
Calculations Right On
Since the apostle John didn't live in England, he never heard of the English furlong. Instead, he used the Roman furlong. The author has found three different measurements for the Roman furlong: 606.25 feet, 606.5 feet, and 606.84 feet.
Using a furlong of 606.25 feet:
606.25 ft. x 3,000 furlongs / (5,280 feet / mi.) = 344.46 mi. (554.34 km)
325,000 / 4,500 * 344.46 mi. = 24,878 mi. (40,036 km)
This result is .071% more than the polar circumference and .098% less than the equatorial circumference.
Using a furlong of 606.5 feet:
606.5 ft. x 3,000 furlongs / (5,280 feet / mi.) = 344.6 mi. (554.56 km)
325,000 / 4,500 * 344.6 mi. = 24,888 mi. (40,052 km)
This result is .112% more than the polar circumference and .057% less than the equatorial circumference.
Using a furlong of 606.84 feet:
606.84 ft. x 3,000 furlongs / (5,280 feet / mi.) = 344.80 mi. (554.89)
325,000 / 4,500 * 344.80 mi. = 24,902 mi. (40,075 km)
This result is .170% more than the polar circumference and .0001% more than the equatorial circumference. These extremely small margins of error make the subject more than just intriguing.
The Size of the Temple
We can use the same ratios to calculate the size of the Holy Place and Most Holy Place. Ezekiel's Holy Place was 20 by 40 cubits, and his Most Holy Place was 20 by 20 cubits (Ezek. 41:2, 4).
Since exact precision isn't all that important, we'll just use the furlong of 606.5 ft. We must make two calculations, one for 20 cubits and the other for 40 cubits:
20 / 4,500 * 344.6 mi. = 1.53 mi.
40 / 4,500 * 344.6 mi. = 3.06 mi.
It is quite possible, therefore, that the heavenly temple which will be outside the New Jerusalem will have a Holy Place about 3 by 1.5 miles, and a Most Holy Place about 1.5 miles square. No wonder the structure can accommodate millions of worshippers.
The basic thought is that the new earth will be divided up into thirteen strips of land of equal area, and all the redeemed will get their inheritance in one of those thirteen strips. Another way to look at it would be for the globe to be divided up into thirteen wedges. All the wedges would meet at the equator.
She is one of the few who can raise the glass many times a day so she can eben look through it.
But that is not the ancient natural geometric ratios meanings you are reading the allegory as if it were not the myth carrying the deduced physics of the solar system and natural life. Remember these discoveries were past on orally for many thousands of years before they were written down.
If people are done with silly arguments regarding Christians, perhaps they may mention the huge numbers of Muslims who nearly froze to death in the sod shacks on the prairies. They endured bad crops, sickness, etc but survived to lead us as they do today. You know, the ones who had great navies and trading ships long before all others, so had no problem finding settling North America.
Muzzie and Christian Lebanese immigrated and homsteaded in droves. They just aren't talked about.
Is starting a conversation that stimulates thought qualify as trolling? This is turning into an interesting thread.
I posted it as a counter point to those who claim that Christianity is the basis of civilization, laws and democracy. Thought the picture said more than I could have put in words (worth a thousand words).
The Religious Right has high jacked the American agenda. They have been chomping at the bit since Ronnie Raygun to bring on Armageddon. That is why they cheer every time the Zionists bomb the crap out of Palestinians. They are tired of waiting on their god to start the slaughter.
I posted it as a counter point to those who claim that Christianity is the basis of civilization, laws and democracy. Thought the picture said more than I could have put in words (worth a thousand words).
The Religious Right has high jacked the American agenda. They have been chomping at the bit since Ronnie Raygun to bring on Armageddon. That is why they cheer every time the Zionists bomb the crap out of Palestinians. They are tired of waiting on their god to start the slaughter.
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LOTS of Jews from Palestine settled right alongside with them and their children intermarried and they built communities together.