Prisoner trade by Obama: Malevolent or just Stupid?
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I just listened to two sergeants from his platoon call him a deserter.......that makes three NCOs that were there publically accusing him of desertion.
Yeah, I think there is evidence.
Yep.
Why do you think Hezbollah and Hamas are always trying to kidnap members of the IDF??
Bad move.
Do you honestly think that enemy fighters ever didn't want to capture US or Israeli fighters? Do you really think they could possibly want to do that more than they ever did?
What is the alternative anyways? That they just don't think keeping them alive is worthwhile and kill them right away?
Of course they don't negotiate with terrorists they just use simple interoffice memos like any other integrated business. Has it ever occured to you that the best anti terrorist campaignes are always engineered around terrorists you pay every month. AL Qaydhu is a wholely owned division of US Terror INC. No nation relies on wild natural terrorists anymore while modern cultivated varieties have proven increased yeilds.
This is a holly-wood generated myth.
The proper move would be to get their man and then have a little target practice in the area of the terrorists leaving. That is the proper way tonegociate with terrorists.
I know the French have, in the past, done shady deals with the enemy to have their captured troops released.
Now the Yanks are at it.
Britain doesn't do such deals with people who hold her troops or her civilian citizens prisoner (all British governments follow that rule). She just sends in the boys to rescue them, usually the SAS but sometimes just ordinary troops - even if it means flattening the building where the prisoners are held and killing the captors.
A famous example was the Iranian hostage siege in 1980.
Another one was the Basra prison incident of 2005.
In September 2005 two SAS officers were arrested by Iraqi police and taken to the Al Jameat police station in Basra.
British tanks encircled the jail where the men (whose photographs have been widely circulated but whose names have not been made public) were being held. A crowd gathered and began throwing stones and petrol bombs at the tanks, setting at least one ablaze. Three British soldiers were injured and, according to some reports, two demonstrators were killed.
A blazing British soldier prepares to jump from his burning Warrior vehicle during the Basra prison incident in September 2005
After nightfall, the British Army returned and stormed the prison where the SAS men were being held, breaking down the walls and freeing the two SAS men. According to the governor of Basra province, Mohammed al-Waili, the British had used "more than ten tanks backed by helicopters" to carry out the raid. After the British Army left, around 150 other prisoners fled the prison.
On 25 December 2006, British troops again raided the Al Jameat station, killing seven gunmen and freeing 127 prisoners being held by Shia militias there. They then blew up the building. A British Army spokesperson stated that the 127 prisoners freed had been tortured and that there were fears that they were about to be executed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basra_prison_incident
Obama: Look.... and learn.....
Now the Yanks are at it.
Britain doesn't do such deals with people who hold her troops or her civilian citizens prisoner (all British governments follow that rule). She just sends in the boys to rescue them, usually the SAS but sometimes just ordinary troops - even if it means flattening the building where the prisoners are held and killing the captors.
A famous example was the Iranian hostage siege in 1980.
Another one was the Basra prison incident of 2005.
In September 2005 two SAS officers were arrested by Iraqi police and taken to the Al Jameat police station in Basra.
British tanks encircled the jail where the men (whose photographs have been widely circulated but whose names have not been made public) were being held. A crowd gathered and began throwing stones and petrol bombs at the tanks, setting at least one ablaze. Three British soldiers were injured and, according to some reports, two demonstrators were killed.
A blazing British soldier prepares to jump from his burning Warrior vehicle during the Basra prison incident in September 2005
After nightfall, the British Army returned and stormed the prison where the SAS men were being held, breaking down the walls and freeing the two SAS men. According to the governor of Basra province, Mohammed al-Waili, the British had used "more than ten tanks backed by helicopters" to carry out the raid. After the British Army left, around 150 other prisoners fled the prison.
On 25 December 2006, British troops again raided the Al Jameat station, killing seven gunmen and freeing 127 prisoners being held by Shia militias there. They then blew up the building. A British Army spokesperson stated that the 127 prisoners freed had been tortured and that there were fears that they were about to be executed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basra_prison_incident
Obama: Look.... and learn.....
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This is the only thing they don't leave behind, the Lithium and Gold has been liberated. And we thought schools for girls was the objective.
$1 Trillion Motherlode of Lithium and Gold Discovered in Afghanistan
Lorimer Wilson - Financial Article Summaries Today | June 16, 2010
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A recently unearthed 2007 United States Geological Service survey appears to have discovered nearly $1 trillion in mineral deposits in Afghanistan, far beyond any previously known reserves and enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy and perhaps the Afghan war itself.
Lorimer Wilson, editor of www.FinancialArticleSummariesToday.com, provides below further reformatted and edited [..] excerpts from articles by James Risen* (The New York Times - Breaking News, World News & Multimedia) and Una Galani** (www.breakingviews.com) for the sake of clarity and brevity to ensure a fast and easy read. Smith goes on to say:
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So the operation was to liberate terrorist SAS insurgents who were caught out of uniform dressed as locals armed with bombs and involved in Mosque burning.
$1 Trillion Motherlode of Lithium and Gold Discovered in Afghanistan
Lorimer Wilson - Financial Article Summaries Today | June 16, 2010
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A recently unearthed 2007 United States Geological Service survey appears to have discovered nearly $1 trillion in mineral deposits in Afghanistan, far beyond any previously known reserves and enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy and perhaps the Afghan war itself.
Lorimer Wilson, editor of www.FinancialArticleSummariesToday.com, provides below further reformatted and edited [..] excerpts from articles by James Risen* (The New York Times - Breaking News, World News & Multimedia) and Una Galani** (www.breakingviews.com) for the sake of clarity and brevity to ensure a fast and easy read. Smith goes on to say:
The previousl
I know the French have, in the past, done shady deals with the enemy to have their captured troops released.
Now the Yanks are at it.
Britain doesn't do such deals with people who hold her troops or her civilian citizens prisoner (all British governments follow that rule). She just sends in the boys to rescue them, usually the SAS but sometimes just ordinary troops - even if it means flattening the building where the prisoners are held and killing the captors.
A famous example was the Iranian hostage siege in 1980.
Another one was the Basra prison incident of 2005.
In September 2005 two SAS officers were arrested by Iraqi police and taken to the Al Jameat police station in Basra.
British tanks encircled the jail where the men (whose photographs have been widely circulated but whose names have not been made public) were being held. A crowd gathered and began throwing stones and petrol bombs at the tanks, setting at least one ablaze. Three British soldiers were injured and, according to some reports, two demonstrators were killed.
A British soldier prepares to jump from his burning Warrior vehicle during the Basra prison incident in September 2005
After nightfall, the British army returned and stormed the prison where the SAS men were being held, breaking down the walls and freeing the two SAS men. According to the governor of Basra province, Mohammed al-Waili, the British had used "more than ten tanks backed by helicopters" to carry out the raid. After the British army left, around 150 other prisoners fled the prison.
On 25 December 2006, British troops again raided the Al Jameat station, killing seven gunmen and freeing 127 prisoners being held by Shia militias there. They then blew up the building.A British Army spokesperson stated that the 127 prisoners freed had been tortured and that there were fears that they were about to be executed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basra_prison_incident
So the operation was to liberate terrorist SAS insurgents who were caught out of uniform dressed as locals armed with bombs and involved in Mosque burning.
No. It was to rescue two bloody heroes.
I bet they thanked their lucky stars they were British. Had they been Canadians I'm assuming they'd have been left to fester in the prison by the liberal fairies who run your country and military.
Basra prison after the British had finished with it
These are not heros, these are dirtbags nobody but a imbecile would invite to lunch. You know that type preys on the innocent forigners or it preys on the home front. Guess why they are selected. No it isn't cuz they're heros. Hero's don't murder the innocent.
THE HEROES WHO WERE RESCUED BY ANOTHER BUNCH OF HEROES
They must thank God they weren't Canadian. By the sounds of it, you lot would have left your own men to fester in an Iraqi hellhole.
Or had they been Yanks, they would free the bad guys to get their men back.
The British just flatten the jail, kill the baddies, and rescue all the prisoners. Simples!
No. It was to rescue two bloody heroes.
I bet they thanked their lucky stars they were British. Had they been Canadians I'm assuming they'd have been left to fester in the prison by the liberal fairies who run your country and military.
Basra prison after the British had finished with it
Flag waving fool. I hope you get your chance to defend yer dirty little Island from hero's such as you laud.
Are the SAS planning on attacking us or something?
These guys are heroes, and you and your ilk aren't fit to clean their boots with your tongues.
THE HEROES WHO WERE RESCUED BY ANOTHER BUNCH OF HEROES
The Canadian 'Heros' would have gone kicking a$$ and taking names and had this thing done in 10 minutes.
... Just like we did for you in 2 WWs
It looks to be that way but wouldn't he need to be charged and convicted first?
How about a trade of some foot soldiers that are in GITMO instead of the 5 top Taliban commanders?
There is plenty of evidence... but will the Obama Administration squash the investigation to save face? I think they will.
Rubbish. You lot would have gone into your typical Canadian cringy liberal mode and left them to rot in the prison, as is evidenced by the comments right here on this thread.
If you did turn up, it would have been in environmentally-friendly, electric driven tanks that were coloured pink to make them appear more gay-friendly.
If they could have given up nothing to get him back, I'm sure they would have preferred that even more.
So they caved and gave the Taliban exactly what they wanted. What a great negotiator Obama is!
For once you're right. The US now negotiates with terrorists or better yet gives in to terrorists thanks to the Obama Administration.
Based on what Jay Carney said in June 2013 during a press conference.
Q Jay, going to back to Afghanistan, the Taliban has offered to release Bowe Bergdahl in exchange for five members of the Taliban who are currently being held at Guantanamo Bay. Is this something that the administration is considering? Is this something that the President would agree to?
MR. CARNEY: What I can tell you is that the main dialogue that we support is the dialogue between Afghans -- between the Taliban and the Afghan government. However, there are some issues that we would like to discuss with the Taliban directly, and this includes the safe return of Sergeant Bergdahl, who has been gone for far too long.
We continue to call for and work toward his safe and immediate release. We cannot discuss all the details of our efforts, but there should be no doubt that on a daily basis we are continuing to pursue -- using our military, intelligence and diplomatic tools -- the effort to return him home safely. And our hearts are with the Bergdahl family.
With regard to the transfer of Taliban detainees from Guantanamo Bay, we have made -- the United States has not made the decision to do that, though we do expect the Taliban to raise this issue in our discussion, if and when those discussions happen.
As we have long said, however, we would not make any decisions about transfer of any detainees without consulting with Congress and without doing so in accordance with U.S. law.
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