Trudeau’s abortion move guarantees renewed debate within Conservative party

gerryh

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Lol, again, I am not going to memorize your political views. I am going to comment on what is in front of me. If you think it is stupid to assume that a social conservative from Alberta probably wasn't a huge fan of PET, that is your prerogative.


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Your assumption was based on the fact that I live in Alberta at this time. Before 2001 I lived on the wet coast. Just because one lives in Alberta, does not mean they are conservative.
 

BornRuff

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Was he against abortion?

He actually introduced the first law that made abortions legally available.

Your assumption was based on the fact that I live in Alberta at this time. Before 2001 I lived on the wet coast. Just because one lives in Alberta, does not mean they are conservative.

Mostly on the socially conservative views actually. But who cares. I made a judgement based on what was in front of me, and it wound up being wrong. Not the end of the world.

For the record, I am also not going to memorize your life story :)
 

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He actually introduced the first law that made abortions legally available.

I'm slightly confused, Gerry has led me to believe that he frowns on abortions and he has just stated that Pierre Trudeau was one of the best Prime Ministers Canada has ever had and yet P.E.T. legalized abortions. How does that work?
 

BornRuff

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I'm slightly confused, Gerry has led me to believe that he frowns on abortions and he has just stated that Pierre Trudeau was one of the best Prime Ministers Canada has ever had and yet P.E.T. legalized abortions. How does that work?

Gotta ask him. Though apparently we should all already know exactly what his political views are.
 

gerryh

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I'm slightly confused, Gerry has led me to believe that he frowns on abortions and he has just stated that Pierre Trudeau was one of the best Prime Ministers Canada has ever had and yet P.E.T. legalized abortions. How does that work?


Of course you are, you being confused is not a big surprise.
 

BornRuff

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Unavailable prior. Weed isn't legal but for medical use it is exempt from the criminal code. See the difference?

Are you drunk? All of your posts are worded in the most awkward ways right now.

You seem to be supporting my point though. Abortions were illegal until PET introduced his amendment to the health act to make them legally available.

As we should all know, until 1988, they were still limited by those review boards, but in that year the SOC eliminated those.
 

BornRuff

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Medically available doesn't mean they were legal or illegal. That's why they are exemptions.

It explicitly means they are legal. Abortions were illegal, then they passed a law to make them legally available.

Regardless, you clearly know what I mean. You are just playing semantics.
 

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They are exempt from the criminal code. Neither legal or illegal. Law doesn't apply to things exempt from law.

LOL

dumbass
 

BornRuff

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This certainly isn't the first time that someone within a political party has made critical remarks about the leader when they thought they were off the record.

Trudeau has obviously been a lot more decisive than leaders of recent history. Coming into a party that used to try to avoid anything that would offend anyone, there are inevitably going to be people who end up on the wrong side of these choices.

In the end, he isn't running for the vote of John McKay. He is running to motivate enough Canadians to get out on election day and cast a ballot for his party.
 

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This certainly isn't the first time that someone within a political party has made critical remarks about the leader when they thought they were off the record.

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Absolutely correct.

Trudeau has obviously been a lot more decisive than leaders of recent history. Coming into a party that used to try to avoid anything that would offend anyone, there are inevitably going to be people who end up on the wrong side of these choices.

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Also true.

But he who keeps the big tent open wins. Trudeau ain't doing it by throwing out people on matters of conscience.

As well, Trudeau promised a new way of doing things, leadership by concensus.... HA!!

Bottom up nominations...........HA!!

His inherited love of dictators is showing.

Sorry, but I honestly can't resist taking potshots at this silver-spoon, empty-headed, entitled, power mad pissant..............and I say that in the very nicest way possible.

In the end, he isn't running for the vote of John McKay. He is running to motivate enough Canadians to get out on election day and cast a ballot for his party.

I have some faith in the people of Canada, and I firmly believe they will send this twit back to his drama teaching forthwith......
 

BornRuff

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Absolutely correct.

Also true.

But he who keeps the big tent open wins. Trudeau ain't doing it by throwing out people on matters of conscience.

That clearly isn't the case. Trying to be everything to everyone made the Liberals into a party that stood for nothing. Meanwhile the conservatives played only to specific portion of the population and pissed off everyone else, and cleaned up in the elections.

As well, Trudeau promised a new way of doing things, leadership by concensus.... HA!!

Bottom up nominations...........HA!!

His inherited love of dictators is showing.

Sorry, but I honestly can't resist taking potshots at this silver-spoon, empty-headed, entitled, power mad pissant..............and I say that in the very nicest way possible.

His actions certainly have not matched all of his rhetoric, but then again, he is a politician.

Say what you want about him, the fact is that since he took the reins the Liberals have consistently been ahead of the Conservatives in the polls, have dramatically increased fundraising, and shown strong results in by-elections.

What does is matter if a lot of people don't like him? Most people in Canada don't like Harper, and have disliked him for close to a decade. What does that matter if he can win elections?

You don't win elections by trying to get everyone to like you. You win elections by getting enough people motivated to vote for you, and enough in Canada is a lot less than the majority of the population.