Entitled to his entitlements
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Good advice but money can be quite addictive. I say do as you suggest but don't stop until you are the manager, that way you kill four birds with one stone, doing what you like, earning the big $$$$, managing properly and getting rid of a whole slew of bureaucratic riff raff. -
Maybe not, Gerry, it may tie in with the "Golden Rule".
Sometimes perks get a little too much perking!
I was supposedly born with a couple of brain cells, and working for the gov't, spent some time approving claims. Most people are honest, some get a little greedy.
Good advice but money can be quite addictive. I say do as you suggest but don't stop until you are the manager, that way you kill four birds with one stone, doing what you like, earning the big $$$$, managing properly and getting rid of a whole slew of bureaucratic riff raff. -
Maybe not, Gerry, it may tie in with the "Golden Rule".
Sometimes perks get a little too much perking!
When a soldier enlists, they are informed that after 20 years of service, if they retire they are entitled to a paid move.
This benefit has been accounted by Treasury Board and is included in a Soldiers total pay package, same as dental is.
The Military receives on average 3 % more than a civil servant.
Yep- Join the Army- get rich.
You were entitled to your entitlement, but Leslie is not entitled to his entitlement? Sorry, nbot buying it.
Whether or not he received something he shouldn't have is secondary.
" Leslie made headlines in 2011 when he told the Harper government in a landmark report that the Department of National Defence needed to take an axe to its bloated headquarters in order to meet future obligations. The Department of National Defence could not be reached for comment about the moving expenses Leslie claimed in 2012."
I see signs of hypocrisy and it's obvious to me that there is something rotten in the system. I moved 154 miles from Grand Forks to Vernon and had real estate expenses involved, all told my moving expenses didn't exceed $25,000. So was what he did wrong? I don't know, was it reasonable? No f**king way!!
Read more: CTV Exclusive: Retired general claimed $72K in expenses for move within Ottawa | CTV News
Re: General Leslie Moving Expenses
Million dollar severance packages for government office leaders is OK but not for soldiers. This guy is going to win just because this federal Conservative government is stealing more money from the Canadian taxpayer and ending up in the Tory war chest
Million dollar severance packages for government office leaders is OK but not for soldiers. This guy is going to win just because this federal Conservative government is stealing more money from the Canadian taxpayer and ending up in the Tory war chest
So what does an expensive property have to do with it? Some companies will pay real estate fees but up to a maximum amount. We moved in 2009 and that included 2 grand children. My real estate fees were approx. $11,000, the mover (a friend) cost $1000. We spent roughly $1000 on temporary accommodation. We may have had $2000 miscellaneous expenses. Where there a will there's a way. I think that guy found the way but never found the will. -
What should have probably happened was the guy be given $20,000 and told to figure it out for himself.
So what does an expensive property have to do with it? Some companies will pay real estate fees but up to a maximum amount. We moved in 2009 and that included 2 grand children. My real estate fees were approx. $11,000, the mover (a friend) cost $1000. We spent roughly $1000 on temporary accommodation. We may have had $2000 miscellaneous expenses. Where there a will there's a way. I think that guy found the way but never found the will. -
What should have probably happened was the guy be given $20,000 and told to figure it out for himself.
Maybe you should suggest that to the almighty federal Conservative party since they are in charge of that file
Yep.
Having gone from bottom to top is no guarantee that you can manage properly.Good advice but money can be quite addictive. I say do as you suggest but don't stop until you are the manager, that way you kill four birds with one stone, doing what you like, earning the big $$$$, managing properly and getting rid of a whole slew of bureaucratic riff raff. -
BTW, I stopped short of being the "manager" because I wouldn't be doing what I liked. I already said that I would not like being a desk jockey, don't like the job politics, and whatnot and that is why I stopped at being an LT. There's no way I would have been allowed to do the stuff I liked doing which was fighting fires and helping people out. Not everyone wants to become a statistic in the Peter Principle. So I don't think your suggestion is that good of one.
And becoming a manager after you've reached your dream job (which was your suggestion) is what, if not greedy?
Well, if you are the manager you can hire someone to do the desk stuff and then if you are unhappy with the money you can donate some of it to charity. -
Would they listen to me?
definition of hypocrisy: "the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case."
Did he claim to have higher standards when he suggested that the gov't chop off some of the bloatedness? Doesn't seem to me that he did.
As gerry pointed out, the onus of why that bill was large may be because of real estate fees.
The bill seems a bit extravagant to me, but I don't know all the facts.
Real estate fees are starting to come down. Some only charge 3%.
hy·poc·ri·sy
hiˈpäkrisē/
noun
noun: hypocrisy; plural noun: hypocrisies
- 1.
the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.
synonyms:dissimulation, false virtue, cant, posturing, affectation, speciousness, empty talk, insincerity, falseness, deceit, dishonesty, mendacity, pretense, duplicity; Moresanctimoniousness, sanctimony, pietism, piousness;
informalphoniness, fraud
"must politics be the perennial benchmark of hypocrisy?"
antonyms:sincerity
I think it includes criticism of others for something one does him/herself. I think we need to focus on the bigger picture than the individual involved. Government spending at all levels in Canada is a problem, so much so that those in direst need can't get help for the basic essentials of life. Cutting has to start somewhere and my opinion is this is a good place to start. Officials trips around the country and the world with a huge entourage is another one.
Just my humble opinion but I think $72,000 is far beyond the pale and as taxpayers are footing the bill, like any other Gov't. costs it should be transparent.
Does that fluidity apply to Conservative Senators?
Apparently not
What a laugh. Trudeau Sr. did more to cripple the average soldier than anyone else in history, yet here you are, pretending to support them
Quoting: "Each step of the process is overseen by a third-party supplier, and independent approvals for every expenditure are required, as directed by the Treasury Board of Canada. Costs are paid directly to the suppliers (real estate agents, movers etc.) by the Department of National Defence."Former general Andrew Leslie accuses Tories of smear over moving expenses - Politics - CBC News