Ford to run in October.

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If Tory enters, he and Ford will split the right thinking votes and some tax-and-spend Leftard will win.
Seems to me that most of you folks don't care about the city, its reputation, or any other thing as long as your taxes don't go up. That seems to be all that matters.
 

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Seems to me that most of you folks don't care about the city, its reputation, or any other thing as long as your taxes don't go up. That seems to be all that matters.

After the Miller Taxation Rampage, that is what matters. Particularly when with that excessive taxation stuff like road repair (in the suburbs at least -- under Miller downtown core had great roads) got the shaft. Since Ford has come in, some of the horrendous roads in Scarberia have actually been worked on. Co-incidence? Also we are wasting less money on stupid stuff like Climate Change offices in London England (since when was that a city responsibility?).

I would be ok with either Ford or Tory. But if they both run, neither will get in. And Ford's personal life is a mess but as a mayor, I think he has been a good one. And most of the drama has been stirred up by a lot of people on personal or political vendettas. Look at the difference in reaction to Justin Trudeau's use of illegal drugs and Rob Ford's.

But my #1 reason for wanting Ford back in is watching BornRuff's head explode. Should be fun to watch. :)
 

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I don't think so. I think it will be the end of Ford Nation.

"Ford Nation" certainly would never be swayed to vote for Tory over Ford. Tory is a respectable, professional politician, which is apparently very offensive to Fordites.

Ford's popularity is built on straight up lying about what he is going to do, and then shamelessly lying some more to claim that he did everything he promised, trusting that his base isn't smart enough to actually check what he promised in the first place. I can't see Tory stooping to that level. He has too much self respect.
 

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Look at the difference in reaction to Justin Trudeau's use of illegal drugs and Rob Ford's.

Lol, not this tired line again.

Ford admitted to smoking weed "a lot" at the same time that Justin said he smoked weed, and Justin is the only one who has experienced any push back from that. So really, it is Justin who should be complaining about a double standard on that issue.
 

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I think "the past few months" might be a single chapter in a long book! -:)

People reveal their true colours when pressed, and what the last few months have revealed about Ford is that he is a ill adjusted man child and media *****.

I mean seriously, what kind person who has respect for himself or his job as mayor would take this as an opportunity for a US media tour?
 

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"Ford Nation" certainly would never be swayed to vote for Tory over Ford. Tory is a respectable, professional politician, which is apparently very offensive to Fordites.

Ford's popularity is built on straight up lying about what he is going to do, and then shamelessly lying some more to claim that he did everything he promised, trusting that his base isn't smart enough to actually check what he promised in the first place. I can't see Tory stooping to that level. He has too much self respect.

God, do you tear at your clothes and knash your teeth when you post about Ford? :roll:

The base isn't smart enough. That's what's wrong with Toronto Leftists, they think they're smart, but then they thought George Smitherman was going to blow away Rob Ford because Toronto voters would never embrace the likes of Rob Ford.
 
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I will laugh when he gets re-elected.

And that's the problem, really. It's not that anyone actually thinks this guy is a coompetent. The folks left who support Ford just want to watch the whole thing burn, and laugh. These contemporary right-wing nutbags are frankly no better than anarchists. They are inherently destructive.
 

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God, do you tear and your clothes and knash your teeth when you post about Ford? :roll:

The base isn't smart enough. That's what's wrong with Toronto Leftists, they think they're smart, but then they thought George Smitherman was going to blow away Rob Ford because Toronto voters would never embrace the likes of Rob Ford.

The belief that Ford couldn't stand a chance was based on an optimistic view that Toronto voters are more intelligent than they apparently are.

I'm not calling people dumb for having different political views. I am calling them dumb for accepting obvious lies.
 

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And that's the problem, really. It's not that anyone actually thinks this guy is a coompetent. The folks left who support Ford just want to watch the whole thing burn, and laugh. These contemporary right-wing nutbags are frankly no better than anarchists. They are inherently destructive.

Not true. Fords supporters are steadfast because of his policies. These people remember the garbage strike that turned Toronto into a summer cesspool then Miller caved and gave the Union exactly what they wanted after subjecting Torontonians to that summer long stink. They remember Miller's administration spending money on environmental initiatives which really were just travel junkets in disguise. They remember stupid initiatives like a Handgun Ban instead of investment in crime reduction. Rob Ford came to power because the previous Mayor spent like a drunken sailor while crying poor to the Feds.

So I don't think it's about watching it all burn down. It's about not returning the reigns of power to folks who are spendaholics.

Hopefully Tory will run.

The belief that Ford couldn't stand a chance was based on an optimistic view that Toronto voters are more intelligent than they apparently are.

It was an arrogant view that backfired.

I'm not calling people dumb for having different political views. I am calling them dumb for accepting obvious lies.
I suppose we are supposed to accept the blatant lie in this quote.:roll:
 

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Not true. Fords supporters are steadfast because of his policies. These people remember the garbage strike that turned Toronto into a summer cesspool then Miller caved and gave the Union exactly what they wanted after subject Torontonians to that stink. They remember spending Millers administration spending money on environmental initiatives which really were just travel junkets in disguise. The remember stupid initiatives like a Handgun Ban instead of investment in crime reduction. Rob Ford came to power because the previous Mayor spent like a drunken sailor while crying poor to the Feds.

So I don't think it's about watching it all burn down. It's about not returning the reigns of power to folks who are spendaholics.

Hopefully Tory will run.

I'm fine with fiscal responsibility. But if you read some of the comments here, it's not about that at all. It's about how they'll laugh if Ford gets back it. For these people, spiting this shibboleth they call The Left has become the ends itself. These are the ones who are destructive, who have nothing to offer other than bile and bitternness.

How can you lose with a name like John Tory? :lol:
 

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I'm fine with fiscal responsibility. But if you read some of the comments here, it's not about that at all. It's about how they'll laugh if Ford gets back it. For these people, spiting this shibboleth they call The Left has become the ends itself. These are the ones who are destructive, who have nothing to offer other than bile and bitternness.

How can you lose with a name like John Tory? :lol:

I have no vested interest in Toronto, but I have been pretty vocal that Ford needs to get some help with his substance abuse issues. The entire affair has been a lampoon fest and both right and left wingers have had a good laugh at the expense of this Mayor's outlandish behavior. The folks who say they'll laugh if Ford gets re-elected are the ones who see the self-righteous announcing that they know what is best.

Toronto City Council has stripped this Mayor of his powers, he is the Mayor in name only, but if he is to be re-elected there will be some humor in that, because they will not be able to stage another Palace Coup. Without going back down this road, there is an air of arrogance interwoven into the Left Wing fabric inside that Council that they know what's best for TO.

The funny thing is that they don't.

The voters are the ones (and rightly so) who should be calling the shots.
 

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I suppose we are supposed to accept the blatant lie in this quote.:roll:

I understand it might be tough to follow this stuff from the unibomber style shack that you live in, but it was pretty blatant even during the election.

Ford promised to build subways without raising taxes. Today we have higher taxes and a tentative plan to maybe build a few extra stops.

Ford promised to cut 2 billion from the budget without reducing services. Instead the budget has gone up, services have been cut, and user fees have increased.

This fun election video where he claims that removing perks for councilors like free zoo passes would save the city "minimum minimum MINIMUM, 20-30 million dollars" when it actually doesn't cost the city a dime.(the city would lose out on any money that they would have spent on these things if they were not free, but assuming that every councilor would spend over 600k per year on going to the zoo and city golf courses is a bit optimistic)

Free Perks Revealed by Toronto Councillor Rob Ford - YouTube