The American Revolution? Now how did the US Citizens manage to kick the butts of the

BaalsTears

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I guess you could say it's a he said she said kind of the thing. The americans, which we all know never lie or propagandize the role of their "enemy", say that the brits paid for scalps. They also, on the other hand, admit to not having concrete proof. That being the case, I will err on it never happened and was just a propaganda tool used by the americans...

Do you deny that the practice of scalping was ever used by any of the First Peoples of North America?
 

gerryh

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Do you deny that the British at some point in time used First People allies in offensive operations in which British enemies were scalped?


You seem to be a little dense, being american AND from california it doesn't surprise me.


I'[ve already stated my reasons for not believing that bounties were offered for american scalps by the brits during the american revolution. I have not said that scalping did not take place at other times in other places by not only different first nations tribes, but also by the brits, spaniards,French, dutch, etc.
 

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And what were the original residents? Cannibalistic, spear-chucking savages who called themselves John Big Brown Bear Bald Eagle. And that's how America and Canada would be today if it wasn't for Britain's civilising effect. They'd be like a North America version of Chad, but with the natives wearing feathers on their heads and eating each other rather than wearing bones through their noses and eating flies.

It's a pity that the North American mainland became uncivilised again after it got its independence. It's time to get rid of guns, baseball, watery beer and crappy chocolate and replace it with Coronation Street, cricket, G&T (the world's most elegant drink and a very English and civilised one at that) and Yorkie bars.


My my, you don't understand much, do you?/

Those savages understood how disease spread, did minor surgery, and had a full repetoire of herbal medicines that worked. They operated under an open and free political system, and (unlike the Brits who "civilized" them") actually had decent personal hygene. They also had nicer teeth.

Just for starters........nor were they one tribe, one culture......

Had not 90% of the Native Americans died quickly on contact with filthy Europeans and their diseases, they'd have kicked you out smartly.

Oh, and it is spelled "civilized". Must be that great British education.

Oh, here's an example of that vaunted British "freedom":

Neil Phillips quizzed for 8 HOURS by police after Nelson Mandela Twitter jokes | Mail Online
 

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In addition the British were oppressive and the King was a nut case literally

He wasnt at that point. Thats something that happened later on in his reign. Also by that time the King was no longer the be all end all of power in Britain. The monarchy had more power than it does not but not a whole lot.It was nothing compared to the power the French King had over France at the time. By then the King could be over ruled or refused by parliament. It was them who were making the policies the American colonists didnt like, the King just signed off on it as that was his role.

If you want to look at poor leadership and tactical incompetance look no futher than the Yanks under George Washington. He was a terrible military leader and it's no surprise that the colonists won so few battles.

Which just makes it all the more funny that the Brits lost. :p

The modern Democratic Party is called the party of Jefferson and Jackson. You remember Jackson don't you? He was famous for the Trail of Tears for so many First Peoples in the Southeast.

And Jefferson hated the idea of political parties at all.
 

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There were a number of problems related to the time of history they were in.
Communications getting more troops in time. The speed with which things
were changing on the ground.
In addition the British were oppressive and the King was a nut case literally
Britain had spread out its forces around the world (sound familiar) and the
people were ready for major change.
The British also didn't take the rebels seriously and that was their biggest problem.


George III was crazier than a sh*t house rat.............in his doddering years, which was probably after the American Revolution.
 

BaalsTears

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You seem to be a little dense, being american AND from california it doesn't surprise me.

That seems very prejudiced. I didn't think Canadians were ever prejudiced. Silly me!


I'[ve already stated my reasons for not believing that bounties were offered for american scalps by the brits during the american revolution. I have not said that scalping did not take place at other times in other places by not only different first nations tribes, but also by the brits, spaniards,French, dutch, etc.

What do you really think? :)

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And Jefferson hated the idea of political parties at all.

Yeah that's true. He recognized that factionalism always destroys democratic and republican polities. He was right. Look at America today. No one hates Americans like fellow Americans.

Some historians believe that the loss of the American War of Independence spurred reforms that helped Britain's military during the Napoleonic Wars.
 

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I bought tickets for the December 23rd NFL game between the SF 49ers vs. Atlanta Falcons from a scalper. So the practice is still going on in a figurative manner.



So is his tongue. :)


Yeah, I don't like making personal attacks, as a general rule................(unless of course the guy is really f**kin' stupid) -:)
 

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Oh, and it is spelled "civilized". Must be that great British education.


Oh dear. Your North American education letting you down again. Thankfully, I was taught English in a BRITISH school.

And in February this year, Canada's Supreme Court ruled that true statements and sincerely-held beliefs can both still be prosecuted as "hate speech."
 

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Oh dear. Your North American education letting you down again. Thankfully, I was taught English in a BRITISH school.


And in February this year, Canada's Supreme Court ruled that true statements and sincerely-held beliefs can both still be prosecuted as "hate speech."

When you begin demonizing a specific group that can lead to discrimination or incite violence-
That is what the ruling was about.
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