Quit picking on the Shiny Pony

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Justin deals with the China thing:

Here’s how Trudeau availed himself of the opportunity to rephrase or correct himself, during an impromptu sidewalk interview with a television crew last Friday.Ah, in this world we are competing with countries that have the capacity to react to big issues quickly and completely. We need to make sure that even though we have to compete with them, ah, we can get things done completely, and that means that not, that not falling back on our, ah, not weakening on our human rights, making sure that we are still protecting all of the things we know. But we do need to get together to support people.”
A Miss Teen USA contestant wouldn’t get away with saying something like that.
The government Trudeau most admires

We keep telling you, and he keeps proving it.....Trudeau is a moron.

Oh just a little more:

This is not to impugn Trudeau’s intentions, of course. A more charitable and fair-minded conclusion is called for, one that recognizes the Liberal party as a shambles, and its leader, Justin Trudeau, as a ridiculous, morally illiterate and fathomlessly unserious person.

I could not have said it better myself.

Give the article a read....it is pretty good.
 

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Ha ha! All your hate mongering is only keeping his name in the headlines. Good or bad, it doesn't matter. What matters is the name is constantly in the press. It is all your whining about him that just may get him elected. If he is, y'all will get what you deserve for being such a bunch of whiny little girls.

Cliffy- Not hate- He is lost when he does not have the script written for him.
I will take Harper or Mulcair over that shxt. At least you know where they stand.
 

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Justin deals with the China thing:

The government Trudeau most admires

We keep telling you, and he keeps proving it.....Trudeau is a moron.

Oh just a little more:



I could not have said it better myself.

Give the article a read....it is pretty good.

To be fair, I'd read an article earlier today can't remember where that within context he was simply admiring its potential efficiency, not saying we should adopt it. Following that, he pointed to the non-partisan system used in Nunavut and other territories focused on consensus building. I actually admire that system myself.

I think what is getting ridiculous is how we are now jumping on our MPs the moment they burp or fart. Sure let's discuss serious issues they bring up, not off-the-cuff remarks taken out of context at a ladies' night.
 

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To be fair, I'd read an article earlier today can't remember where that within context he was simply admiring its potential efficiency, not saying we should adopt it. Following that, he pointed to the non-partisan system used in Nunavut and other territories focused on consensus building. I actually admire that system myself.

I think what is getting ridiculous is how we are now jumping on our MPs the moment they burp or fart. Sure let's discuss serious issues they bring up, not off-the-cuff remarks taken out of context at a ladies' night.

He also stated the Yukon had the same system- Nope.
Alone without the Puppeteers he screws up - No leadership abilities to run a country.

Honour killings term angers Trudeau | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

Justin Trudeau's honour-killing unease fans cultural-relativist flames - The Globe and Mail

Barbara Kay: Trudeau the multiculturalist walks into trap of his own making | National Post
 

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I never said I'm rooting for him, just that in this specific instance concerning his comment on China, it was taken out of context.
 

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I never said I'm rooting for him, just that in this specific instance concerning his comment on China, it was taken out of context.

Yep.

They were.

And even IN context, they were absolutely moronic.

China is the filthiest advanced nation on earth, where smog kills and where generation of electricity by coal burning increases every year.

Not only does Trudeau make the mistake of expressing admiration for the regime that has killed more people than any other on earth, he makes that mistake in a context that is totally devoid of rationale.

The man is an idiot.
 

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Yep.

They were.

And even IN context, they were absolutely moronic.

China is the filthiest advanced nation on earth, where smog kills and where generation of electricity by coal burning increases every year.

Not only does Trudeau make the mistake of expressing admiration for the regime that has killed more people than any other on earth, he makes that mistake in a context that is totally devoid of rationale.

The man is an idiot.

Still is, true. I still liked his comment concerning Nunavut though.
 

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I never said I'm rooting for him, just that in this specific instance concerning his comment on China, it was taken out of context.

Really- Consider this His father PET had an affinity towards the USSR and Cuba.
If you were running for PM in the next election, if you had a brain your comments about Dictatorships would be well chosen remarks.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...ent-gaffes-undermine-his-political-strengths/

The point: It doesn’t really matter, in the end, how you parse the words. The promotion and the China remark together are the worst kind of unforced, bone-headed error — the equivalent of Stephen Harper kicking a chair in public, or Tom Mulcair bellowing “Viva Che Guevara!” on the steps of the Centre Block (which the NDP leader has not done, I hasten to add). They go directly to his weakness — a lack of experience and, occasionally, judgment — and undermine his strengths.

Spontaneity is part of Trudeau’s brand, and his popular appeal. He won’t want to salt that well entirely. But here’s the thing about speaking unplugged: politicians who do it successfully over a long period have a kind of internal self-editor, which processes the words and weeds out the worst mistakes before they emerge. Think, Ralph Klein. Where Trudeau is headed — a pre-campaign, a campaign, televised debates against fierce, experienced foes — he’ll need this skill, in spades.

Trudeau and his team have made some smart strategic moves. It would be a grave mistake for them to assume that makes him impervious to failure, which is what these “foot in mouth” episodes begin to look like.

The Globe and Mail: Series
 

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Really- Consider this His father PET had an affinity towards the USSR and Cuba.
If you were running for PM in the next election, if you had a brain your comments about Dictatorships would be well chosen remarks.
Michael Den Tandt: Justin Trudeau’s recent gaffes undermine his political strengths | National Post

The point: It doesn’t really matter, in the end, how you parse the words. The promotion and the China remark together are the worst kind of unforced, bone-headed error — the equivalent of Stephen Harper kicking a chair in public, or Tom Mulcair bellowing “Viva Che Guevara!” on the steps of the Centre Block (which the NDP leader has not done, I hasten to add). They go directly to his weakness — a lack of experience and, occasionally, judgment — and undermine his strengths.

Spontaneity is part of Trudeau’s brand, and his popular appeal. He won’t want to salt that well entirely. But here’s the thing about speaking unplugged: politicians who do it successfully over a long period have a kind of internal self-editor, which processes the words and weeds out the worst mistakes before they emerge. Think, Ralph Klein. Where Trudeau is headed — a pre-campaign, a campaign, televised debates against fierce, experienced foes — he’ll need this skill, in spades.

Trudeau and his team have made some smart strategic moves. It would be a grave mistake for them to assume that makes him impervious to failure, which is what these “foot in mouth” episodes begin to look like.

The Globe and Mail: Series


According to the same standard, Harper loves China too:

Justin Trudeau applauds China - but then, so does Stephen Harper - Politics - CBC News

Within context it's clear he was not proposing we emulate China. It was clearly an off-the-cuff remark.

As I said, there are legitimate points to discuss, but let's not jump on an MP each time he burps or farts.
 

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Wo ai zhongguo ren


The world today seems absolutely crackers,
With nuclear bombs to blow us all sky high.
There's fools and idiots sitting on the trigger.
It's depressing and it's senseless, and that's why...
I like Chinese.
I like Chinese.
They only come up to your knees,
Yet they're always friendly, and they're ready to please.

I like Chinese.
I like Chinese.
There's nine hundred million of them in the world today.
You'd better learn to like them; that's what I say.

I like Chinese.
I like Chinese.
They come from a long way overseas,
But they're cute and they're cuddly, and they're ready to please.

I like Chinese food.
The waiters never are rude.
Think of the many things they've done to impress.
There's Maoism, Taoism, I Ching, and Chess.

So I like Chinese.
I like Chinese.
I like their tiny little trees,
Their Zen, their ping-pong, their yin, and yang-ese.

I like Chinese thought,
The wisdom that Confucious taught.
If Darwin is anything to shout about,
The Chinese will survive us all without any doubt.

So, I like Chinese.
I like Chinese.
They only come up to your knees,
Yet they're wise and they're witty, and they're ready to please.

All together.

[verse in Chinese]
Wo ai zhongguo ren. (I like Chinese.)
Wo ai zhongguo ren. (I like Chinese.)
Wo ai zhongguo ren. (I like Chinese.)
Ni hao ma; ni hao ma; ni hao ma; zaijien! (How are you; how are you; how are you; goodbye!)

I like Chinese.
I like Chinese.
Their food is guaranteed to please,
A fourteen, a seven, a nine, and lychees.

I like Chinese.
I like Chinese.
I like their tiny little trees,
Their Zen, their ping-pong, their yin, and yang-ese.

I like Chinese.
I like Chinese.
They only come up to your knees...
 
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Locutus

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The media are often misunderstood. If they are perceived as not being objective, they are criticized as “biased”. The truth is that the media function more like a pack of jackals or, worse, vultures. They descend when they observe weakness, and fawn when they believe they are in the presence of success, confidence, and power.

Which is to say that the media do not behave like individuals, but like craven pack animals. Though they can have ideological slants, which can hasten or delay their arrival at a “story”, once a belly is revealed they will turn and dine on the carcass.

Witness the Toronto Sun’s recent reporting on Rob Ford, and the National Posts eye-popping observations that Justin Trudeau can’t win on pot and personality (in fact, the previous National Post concern was that yes, that is exactly what he could do, which resulted in some desperate reporting).

But the Toronto Star’s response to Trudeau is perhaps most embarrassing. We expect the Sun to shill and then feed if it means they can make a nickel, and for the National Post to amuse us with patrician disdain. But we hold the Star to a higher standard. Sadly, the Star’s National Affairs correspondent Chantal Hébert, like so many others, notably the CBC, was embarrassingly late to call Justin Trudeau to account.

During the leadership campaign Hébert wrote of “a grateful party establishment”, saying that “Trudeau’s launch could turn out to be the most exciting moment of an overlong campaign.”

It got worse. In April of this year she wrote a piece for the Star with the headline “Justin Trudeau measures up well to his Liberal predecessors”, with a sub-head that read “Measured on the scale of the editorial board performances of his Liberal predecessors, Justin Trudeau was substantively more solid.” The article managed to make those claims without indicating the basis for such optimism – there was not a single quote from Trudeau, or a reference to anything substantive in the way of policy.

How quickly things change. After the Justin Unplugged “ladies night”, an event that Trudeau did not organize, and a single – though rather attenuated by Justin’s standards – gaffe when declaring totalitarian China as his “most admired” government, Hébert has suddenly realized that Trudeau is, in fact, a remarkably unimpressive politician.

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Locutus

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Is that the one where he holds out his arm like he's carrying an invisible basket of fragrant flowers?
 

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