How the liberals made Britain ashamed of being Great

darkbeaver

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No I haven't. That's how the post turned out after I pressed Submit Reply. I didn't write it like that.



The Hindus don't bother me. They are a peaceful, loving religion. It's the evil Muslims I have a problem with.



Gordon was a brave British hero, who rescued almost 3,000 Egyptian civilians - women, children and the sick - from Islamic terrorists before he succumbed to a heroic death.

You (like the other cowardly self-righteous, self-hating, patronising lefties) would have just turned on your heels and ran when the Islamic terrorists turned up, leaving those poor innocent civilians to their fate.

Why not start a History of British War Crimes thread. You have to break a lot of eggs to make an empire, you know. While you are quick and eager to lap up the imagined high and mighty you avoid the shame of imperialism like the plaque it really is. You are proud of a legacy of conquest murder and oppression. History makes it very clear that Britian instigated both the first and second world wars.
 

Blackleaf

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Why not start a History of British War Crimes thread.

Why?

Why not start a history of Canadian crimes thread?

It might be that upon conquest British got to say the economy built up while the Spanish did not.



Tell me how British influence did not mush people like Spain all over South and Central America.

The British took freedom and democracy and railways and great sports to the people's in their great empire. They civilised these previously barbaric tribes.

The Spanish just went over and nicked all their gold and slaughtered all their natives.

The British Empire, on the other hand, was the most benign empire in history and the greatest force for good that this planet has ever seen and is ever likely to see any time soon.
 

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Blackie,

The collapse of the Soviet Union was caused by those two great Anglo-Saxon leaders - Thatcher and Reagan.



Of course, it was Anglo-Saxon financial giants who created the Soviet state as we all know:




The British Empire, on the other hand, was the most benign empire in history and the greatest force for good that this planet has ever seen and is ever likely to see any time soon.



Not sure that the all those dead in China from the Opium wars or those in the Indian subcontinent would agree.


But England's imperialism is not much different from Belgium's actions in Congo, France's invasions of Northern Africa or Indo-China, or other forms of European barbarism.
 

Blackleaf

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Not sure that the all those dead in China from the Opium wars or those in the Indian subcontinent would agree.

And guess who were on Britain's side during the Opium Wars? The Americans, the French and the Russians.

All were fighting a just war in the cause of free trade.

But England's imperialism is not much different from Belgium's actions in Congo, France's invasions of Northern Africa or Indo-China, or other forms of European barbarism.

It wasn't the English Empire. It was the British Empire. There is no such nation state as England.

But the British Empire was much more benign than other empires, especially the brutal and barbarous Spanish and French empires. The British Empire, as I'm going to point out yet again, was the most benign empire in the histroy of mankind and the greatest force for good that world has EVER known.
 

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Why?

Why not start a history of Canadian crimes thread?



The British took freedom and democracy and railways and great sports to the people's in their great empire. They civilised these previously barbaric tribes.

The Spanish just went over and nicked all their gold and slaughtered all their natives.

The British Empire, on the other hand, was the most benign empire in history and the greatest force for good that this planet has ever seen and is ever likely to see any time soon.

FIVE STARS for creative writing.

And guess who were on Britain's side during the Opium Wars? The Americans, the French and the Russians.

All were fighting a just war in the cause of free trade.



It wasn't the English Empire. It was the British Empire. There is no such nation state as England.

But the British Empire was much more benign than other empires, especially the brutal and barbarous Spanish and French empires. The British Empire, as I'm going to point out yet again, was the most benign empire in the histroy of mankind and the greatest force for good that world has EVER known.

See above.
 

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And guess who were on Britain's side during the Opium Wars? The Americans, the French and the Russians.

All were fighting a just war in the cause of free trade.



It wasn't the English Empire. It was the British Empire. There is no such nation state as England.

But the British Empire was much more benign than other empires, especially the brutal and barbarous Spanish and French empires. The British Empire, as I'm going to point out yet again, was the most benign empire in the histroy of mankind and the greatest force for good that world has EVER known.



Yeah like Jacob Astor represented the interests of all Americans.

As for "benign", that's laughable.
 

Blackleaf

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Don't you wish sometimes you could put humility into a box and just mail it to him?

I'd just send it back to you where it belongs. Like Pandora's Box I'd keep it well closed.

You will NEVER get me to show humility about something which I have no need to show humility over except to please whiny liberals like you and your fellow self-righteous pals. Just give it up, now.

Yeah like Jacob Astor represented the interests of all Americans.

As for "benign", that's laughable.

The British Empire was the most benign empire the world has ever seen.

I don't want to repeat that again - but I will if I have to.
 

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Maybe that was their problem, if they lack the fortitude to be great because of a few whiny liberals, no wonder their empire faded into irrelevance. It must have started with their benign rule of the colonials and savages. :roll:
 

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Maybe that was their problem, if they lack the fortitude to be great because of a few whiny liberals, no wonder their empire faded into irrelevance. It must have started with their benign rule of the colonials and savages. :roll:

It started and also ended with our benign rule of the colonials and savages.

Many of them weren't savages, though, after we civilised them.

If it wasn't for us the Africans and the Native Americans would still be chucking spears about and eating each other.
 

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Maybe that was their problem, if they lack the fortitude to be great because of a few whiny liberals, no wonder their empire faded into irrelevance. It must have started with their benign rule of the colonials and savages. :roll:

You know that the purple font was created for members like Blackleaf don't you?
 

CDNBear

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I disagree. We were, and are, GREAT Britain. It's not Great America, is it? Or Great Canada. Or Great France. Or Great Liechtenstein.
It isn't Great Britain either.

I can call myself Great Bear, but the proof is in the hasty pudding.

Any country that has such monumental failings as yours does, shouldn't even be awarded the honourary title of average.
 

Blackleaf

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It isn't Great Britain either.

Oh dear. Massive failure on your part. Embarrassing is the only way to describe that Olympus Mons-sized gaffe.

Any country that has such monumental failings as yours does, shouldn't even be awarded the honourary title of average.

Monumental failings? Great Britain is the most successful country, and the greatest civilisation, that this planet has ever known.

As for benign, remember it was the British Empire which gave the world America and Canada and gave those countries Magna Carta-inspired rights and laws and gave Canada Westminster-style parliamentary democracy. If it wasn't for Britain your lands would still be occupied and dominated by barbarous savages.

If it wasn't for the British Empire then India wouldn't have its beloved cricket and its crowded railways.
 

taxslave

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Oh dear. Massive failure on your part. Embarrassing is the only way to describe that Olympus Mons-sized gaffe.



Monumental failings? Great Britain is the most successful country, and the greatest civilisation, that this planet has ever known.

As for benign, remember it was the British Empire which gave the world America and Canada and gave those countries Magna Carta-inspired rights and laws and gave Canada Westminster-style parliamentary democracy. If it wasn't for Britain your lands would still be occupied and dominated by barbarous savages.

If it wasn't for the British Empire then India wouldn't have its beloved cricket and its crowded railways.

ROLFLMAO again. You gotta stop before I bust a gut laughing. Almost spilled my coffee too.
 

Blackleaf

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ROLFLMAO again. You gotta stop before I bust a gut laughing. Almost spilled my coffee too.

You know, you want to see somebody about that. Denial of overwhelming historical reality is a very serious thing and its often the start of a serious mental illness.

Countries like Canada, the USA, Australia, New Zealand, India, Zimbabwe and many others all came into being by the British Empire. If it hadn't been for the British Empire you'd be nothing.
 

taxslave

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You know, you want to see somebody about that. Denial of overwhelming historical reality is a very serious thing and its often the start of a serious mental illness.

Countries like Canada, the USA, Australia, New Zealand, India, Zimbabwe and many others all came into being by the British Empire. If it hadn't been for the British Empire you'd be nothing.

More like in spite of the british empire. like Bear my ancestors were here long before your crowd even knew North America existed and were doing just fine with good farms and a good life.
 

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no country is greater than any other any more...it's a different world with different standards and practices and ways of measuring greatness... things change