How the liberals made Britain ashamed of being Great
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After the Germanic Angles.
The Germanic Angles? I picked up their latest CD. Awesome.
I don't see why I should deliberately show shame just to please the self-loathing lefties that Mr Hannan was talking about.
Information, please.
I thought Great Britain meant greater Britain, not just the bit around Reading. I never thought of Great as meaning "Wow, that kolbassa tasted great!"
I thought Great Britain meant greater Britain, not just the bit around Reading. I never thought of Great as meaning "Wow, that kolbassa tasted great!"
It was the largest *navel* power. On land, they could still be whooped by Germans and Russia, like the way Athenians had a great naval power and tended to dominate the oceans, while Spartans could still thump them on land.
ROLF... do they teach you what a Tautology is in British schools?
So? It's not the language of Plato, the Bible, Voltaire, Jules Vern, etc. etc.
So? All it means is that it was pushed around a lot. Latin and Greek used to be the default languages of trade back in Macedonian and Roman times. So what?
In Canada, a guy got 36% of the votes, and with that was able to wrangle majority-house status, which gives him despotic powers a President can only dream of.
He did not get a majority of the votes, but he's allowed to rule as if he had a majority. That is a flawed system.
Really. Do you think Chinese victims of the opium wars would agree? How do Boers feel about you inventing the concept of Concentration camps and using it on them?
And what about India... the only colony to actually make a profit (the profits from which are what subsidized the rest of the empire)... what do they have to say about it... they're the ones who did you the favour of adding foods to your quisine that have flavor.
Why do you think instead of a chest swollen with pride, it made American belly's swell with enough vomit to make them puke you out in the late 18th century?
Come to think of it, how does your pride-swollen chest reconcile abolishing slavery in the 1830's, while supporting the American Confederacy in the 1860?
The sense of pride you feel is the same chest-swelling pride Germans got to feel for a couple years under the Nazis. Psychologists call that emotion "Elevation".
Alrighty, this should be fun. How would a re-empowered British Empire deal with rising sea-levels from global warming? Build dikes like Holland?
Do they really? Got any stats to compare your crime rate to modern industrial democracies that don't constantly spy on their citizens?
No they didn't. They based it largely on writings of French political philosophers.
And many Canadians are striving to change that, i.e., they want an elected Senate.
What country is Scotland trying to get more autonomy from?
You're thinking Canada is like Australia or New Zealand. It's not.
Canada has so much from the French... the Beaver was a French symbol, now Canadian's call it their own... the Maple Leaf was a French symbol... now it centres the Canadian flag... the term "eh" came from the French. Canadian restaurant food is better than Britians because they learned from Montreal cooks. You don't have to speak english to get into Canada... you can qualify if you just know French.
And now they're embracing other cultures, including some retroactive fixes like renaming the Georgia Strait to the Salish Sea.
All of Canada's historical embarrasements, like the head-tax on Chinese immigrants, and the initial refusal to allow Sikhs to immigrate, and the native residential school system, came from Anglo-Saxon influences, and Canadians are now doing everything they can to fix those mistakes and distance themselves from the British influences that caused it.
Nope... they're just the ones who happened to be in charge when the Soviet system imploded on itself.
What happened was, they had a ruling class called the Aparatsk, who were given special privileges, like hard rubles (worth about a pound, unlike common rubles, which were worth about a nickle) that could be used at foriegn-goods shops, which sold things like western blue-jeans and albums.
The hard rubles were paid for with foriegn exchange from selling oil to the west, but in the middle 80's there was a collapse in world oil prices, which caused the Soviets to loose their primary source of foriegn exchange, which meant the Aparatsk couldn't get the same hard rubles they used to, so they couldn't buy western goodies from the foriegn-goods shops...
... so, instead of telling their families that they'd have to start wearing Russian-made jeans and watching russian televisions and listening to russian music, they turned to the black-market, which had always had about a 30-40% slice of the economy (in the west it averages about 15% of the economy). That pushed mobster control of the economy to greater than 50%, whereupon the Kremlin lost control.
In desperation, it was finally decided by Gorbachov et al that they might have to consider systems with long history's dealing with mobsters, so they converted.
Reagan and Thatcher just happened to be the ones in charge at the time, and so, for the sake of getting reelected, their campain managers orchestrated trumped up claims of having brought down communism (which they didn't, because it's still alive in China), and the naive chest-swelling British and American chauvanists swallowed it.
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Britain was the largest and richest military, economic and political power the globe had ever seen.
It depends on which tautology you are referring to.
Are you referring to a self-reinforcing pretense of significant truth? The use of redundant words? A universal truth in formal logic? Or a rule of replacement for logical expressions?
No. Plato spoke and wrote in Greek; and Voltaire and Verne both spoke and wrote in French.
Not now, they aren't. English is now the dominant global language and looking to remain that way for a long time to come.
Latin is extinct; and the only people who speak Greek now are the Greeks and dusty university professors.
As long as he got more votes than anyone else then what's the problem? If you don't want him in power don't vote for him.
He's allowed to rule because his party got a majority of the seats in Parliament.
I don't give a damn how the Chinese feel. It's not something I really think about, to be honest with you. And they of all people have no right to talk.
I don't know how Boers - who started apartheid - feel about the British inventing concentration camps.
But if one of them said that nonsense to me I'd correct him.
Indian food is only good for Indians and constipation sufferers. Other than that, I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. I'd stick to egg and chips, if you don't mind. I don't touch foreign muck.
So? Ain't my problem.
And what was wrong in supporting the American confederacy? Lots of Americans supported it. And a lot of the cotton for our cotton mills came from the American South. They were big trading partners.
for a couple years under the Nazis. Psychologists call that emotion"Elevation"
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I call it "patriotism".
I would hope that the leaders of a new British Empire would concerns themselves with other, more important things rather than mythological things like global warming.
The vast majority of Britain's CCTV cameras are in private hands.
In fact, there are 70 times more cameras operated privately by businesses and others using the devices for reasons including the protection of property, crime detection, or safety than cameras operated by "the state".
There are around 5 million CCTV cameras nationwide, but only around 70,000 are in public (police and local authorities) control.
So basically, Britain's CCTV cameras are not to "spy on the citizens" but are used by the citizens to spy on the citizens' property in order to protect that property.
They based it on Magna Carta, a copy of which is at the National Archives in Washington D.C.
British political philosophers such as John Locke were also a large influence, as well as Englishmen Sir Edward Coke and Sir William Blackstone.
The due process clause of the US Constitution was partly based on common law and on Magna Carta (1215), which had become a foundation of English liberty against arbitrary power wielded by a tyrant.
British political philosopher John Locke following the Glorious Revolution was a major influence expanding on the contract theory of government advanced by Thomas Hobbes. Locke advanced the principle of consent of the governed in his Two Treatises of Government. Government's duty under a social contract among the sovereign people was to serve them by protecting their rights. These basic rights were ......... life, liberty and property.
Both the influence of Edward Coke and William Blackstone were evident at the Convention. In his Institutes of the Laws of England, Edward Coke interpreted Magna Carta protections and rights to apply not just to nobles, but to all British subjects. In writing the Virginia Charter of 1606, he enabled the King in Parliament to give those to be born in the colonies all rights and liberties as though they were born in England. William Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England were the most influential books on law in the new republic.
British political philosopher John Locke following the Glorious Revolution was a major influence expanding on the contract theory of government advanced by Thomas Hobbes. Locke advanced the principle of consent of the governed in his Two Treatises of Government. Government's duty under a social contract among the sovereign people was to serve them by protecting their rights. These basic rights were ......... life, liberty and property.
So? That's your problem, not mine.
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None, because the vast majority of Scots are against independence. And those against Scottish independence will win by more than the half-a-percent that those against Quebec independence won by.
It's exactly like them. It's one of the 16 Commonwealth Realms with Elizabeth II as its Head of State and run by the Westminster style of government and it's an Anglo-Saxon member of the Anglosphere. You have more in relation to them that that largely alien country to the south of you.
You got so much more from the British. 50% of you are Brits; most of you speak English; you have the British monarch as your Head of State, not that useless little socialist Hollande; you have the democratic Westminster style of government; you have the fair English Common Law in which you are innocent until proven guilty and tried by a jury of your peers, rather than that barbaric Napoleonic Law in which you are guilty until proven innocent and are not judged bya jury of your peers; your military is modelled on the superior British model, not the inferior French model.
And now they're embracing other cultures, including some retroactive fixes like renaming the Georgia Strait to the Salish Sea.
Yeah. Alright then.
If you tax Chinese immigrants and refuse to allow Sikhs into the country that's not the fault of the British or the freedom-loving Anglo-Saxon system. That's the fault of whichever government you had in at the time.
And they helped defeat Communism.
In fact, along with destroying the left-wing, socialist, strike-ridden Stalinist British State of the 1970s, defeating Communism was Mrs Thatcher's greatest legacy.
Why do you think the Soviets gave Thatcher the nickname "The Iron Lady"? She terrified those big hard Soviets leaders. In 1987 she even went to Moscow and gave a speech bashing Soviet leaders.
After the death of Thatcher in April, Gorbachev recalled: "Our first meeting in 1984 set in motion relations that were sometimes complicated, not always smooth, but which were serious and responsible on both sides. Human relations also gradually took shape, becoming more and more friendly.
"In the end we managed to achieve a mutual understanding, and that contributed to a change in the atmosphere between our country (the Soviet Union) and the West and the end of the Cold War."
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You know, normally I presume posters like you are just playing devil's advocate for the sake of reparte, but every now and then I get a chill wondering if you're actually serious... it's sort of like walking through a supermarket laughing off the junkfood isles until it dawns that the junk wouldn't be on the shelves unless someone was actually buying it...
But carry on... if not for voices like yours, we wouldn't have had things like the Sex Pistols.
But carry on... if not for voices like yours, we wouldn't have had things like the Sex Pistols.
No Empire, including the British Empire, has ever lasted for long in the great history of the Earth. Each and every one of them has degenerated from within, when the people look to what they can get from the country, instead of actually supporting the country.
The Egyptian empire contributed to the world, and it was vanquished. The Assyrian and Babylonian empires contributed to the world, and then they died out. And so it has happened, over and over and over again. Today's world is no different. The so called "Western" nations are slowly decaying, while the Oriental nations rise.
The Egyptian empire contributed to the world, and it was vanquished. The Assyrian and Babylonian empires contributed to the world, and then they died out. And so it has happened, over and over and over again. Today's world is no different. The so called "Western" nations are slowly decaying, while the Oriental nations rise.
The C&P's or the ones he writes himself? If it's not too long and I catch a whiff of ignorance in the first couple of lines, I'll read it through so I can properly castrate him (metaphorically speaking).
But otherwise, no. Lol
Even though you've used the word "was" the
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Re: How the liberals made Britain ashamed of being Great
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Yeah, Blackie forgot that people in the Indian subcontinent did not appreciate having Queen Victoria march in and arrange to kill millions of their people in the name of this "freedom".You're just jealous that India was never part of an American Empire. Unfortunately for Americans, they can only dream about having a history as rich and glorious and proud as Britain's.
Today so many of you Brits complain about too many Muzzies and Hindoos as if you were under an invasion. Who knows - mebbe a few decades from now your great grand children will have more Indian/Pakistani blood in them than British blood.
Trading blood for blood - what an idea!
As for Chinese Gordon, all I can say is good for him - God punishes!
No I haven't. That's how the post turned out after I pressed Submit Reply. I didn't write it like that.
The Hindus don't bother me. They are a peaceful, loving religion. It's the evil Muslims I have a problem with.
Gordon was a brave British hero, who rescued almost 3,000 Egyptian civilians - women, children and the sick - from Islamic terrorists before he succumbed to a heroic death.
You (like the other cowardly self-righteous, self-hating, patronising lefties) would have just turned on your heels and ran when the Islamic terrorists turned up, leaving those poor innocent civilians to their fate.
Auugh! I just got slammed through thinking things through.
Are you a lavendar lady or a lavendar guy? I don't care... I have a question.
Ender was a twat little brother, and I was the older brother called Peter described as too nice, so I snuck out.
In order to conquer this evil, we need the purity of the form of British instinct blowing away all that Spanish gold-sucking uninvestedness.
So... the first thing is you're going to drink some room-temperature ale and explain how that worked better than Spanish at dominating language all over the world.
Are you a lavendar lady or a lavendar guy? I don't care... I have a question.
Ender was a twat little brother, and I was the older brother called Peter described as too nice, so I snuck out.
In order to conquer this evil, we need the purity of the form of British instinct blowing away all that Spanish gold-sucking uninvestedness.
So... the first thing is you're going to drink some room-temperature ale and explain how that worked better than Spanish at dominating language all over the world.
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It might be that upon conquest British got to say the economy built up while the Spanish did not.
Tell me how British influence did not mush people like Spain all over South and Central America.