Use of the term '"retard"

Goober

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I'm not implying that you are mentally ill. I'm simply stating that mental illness could be a valid reason for an individual not being responsible for their actions. Since it is you that are claiming that you're not responsible for your actions, might I suggest it is you who are implying that you're mentally ill.

I found these Quotes- What is your opinion?

“I'll take crazy over stupid any day.”
― Joss Whedon
tags: insanity, stupidity

“The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four people is suffering from a mental illness. Look at your 3 best friends. If they're ok, then it's you.”
― Rita Mae Brown
 

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Use of the term '"retard"
Would you tolerate the n word??
Or perhaps Injun
Or perhaps Paki
Or perhaps Raghead?
And I am sure I could come up with quite a few more.

Never did like that phrase retard- comes from how it was used for these people afflicted and that was the term used when I was growing up.

Am I being PC- No - the English language is overflowing with other, more descriptive words.

The term "Retard" targets a specific number of people that are afflicted.

Using it as an insult only reinforces the use of such a phrase.

Just my thoughts.

Oh yes- It is not an infringement- It is called using your brain to use phrases that are more accurate and descriptive.
Use your brain, it is a muscle that needs exercise. Feel free to exercise it.
Retard is not a term I would use in daily life and neither would anyone around me. I would be shocked to hear it used.

Labeling anyone as anything is not my way. If I am angry enough at someone to address their behavior that is what I would address.

Is it insulting, I don't know, maybe...to me it labels the individual using the term nothing more.
 

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Yes, it was answered.

 

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Retard is not a term I would use in daily life and neither would anyone around me. I would be shocked to hear it used.

Labeling anyone as anything is not my way. If I am angry enough at someone to address their behavior that is what I would address.

Is it insulting, I don't know, maybe...to me it labels the individual using the term nothing more.

You are "right on the money" there, Sal as far as addressing faults of normal people, especially ones who haven't abused you, but there are a few individuals who don't understand civil language, but it's always best to let them establish the lowest level first and then you can hand it back to them. -:)
 

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You are "right on the money" there, Sal as far as addressing faults of normal people, especially ones who haven't abused you, but there are a few individuals who don't understand civil language, but it's always best to let them establish the lowest level first and then you can hand it back to them. -:)

Just do not sink to their level- that way you can step on them easily.
 

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You are "right on the money" there, Sal as far as addressing faults of normal people, especially ones who haven't abused you, but there are a few individuals who don't understand civil language, but it's always best to let them establish the lowest level first and then you can hand it back to them. -:)
To be honest if I am that angry with someone I go for the guts and would be more inclined to use psychology to pi ss them off. If they don't understand civil language, they are not worth my time or my bother because they won't ever get it or acknowledge it and I don't need to win with that type of encounter because to me they have lost by default. Maybe that is harsh. I did not come from the type of environment where it was acceptable and I would not tolerate it in my environment now. It's not healthy and it doesn't draw a healthy outcome.

Just do not sink to their level- that way you can step on them easily.
honestly goob as soon as one engages that, the playing field is level...I have done it here a couple of times and when I walked away I was stressed and angry...in the end it had nothing to do with the other's behaviour and everything to do with my response... I was not proud of myself and my guts told me so as soon as I did it. I created my own stress by my response...it was a good lesson for me.
 

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To be honest if I am that angry with someone I go for the guts and would be more inclined to use psychology to pi ss them off. If they don't understand civil language, they are not worth my time or my bother because they won't ever get it or acknowledge it and I don't need to win with that type of encounter because to me they have lost by default. Maybe that is harsh. I did not come from the type of environment where it was acceptable and I would not tolerate it in my environment now. It's not healthy and it doesn't draw a healthy outcome.


honestly goob as soon as one engages that, the playing field is level...I have done it here a couple of times and when I walked away I was stressed and angry...in the end it had nothing to do with the other's behaviour and everything to do with my response... I was not proud of myself and my guts told me so as soon as I did it. I created my own stress by my response...it was a good lesson for me.

I have as well and I was angry with myself for being sucked into the vortex by such people.
 

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I have as well and I was angry with myself for being sucked into the vortex by such people.
but see we don't get sucked in, not really, we dive in because something they have said triggers us....it's never about the other person, it's always about us, and that is the harsh reality of it...and the part that is most maddening (for me anyway)....I was angery with myself for days....lol, it was a painful lesson, I hope it was fully learned...lol, but we shall see as only time will tell. :D
 

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...in the end it had nothing to do with the other's behaviour and everything to do with my response... I was not proud of myself and my guts told me so as soon as I did it. I created my own stress by my response...

Well said
 

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but see we don't get sucked in, not really, we dive in because something they have said triggers us....it's never about the other person, it's always about us, and that is the harsh reality of it...and the part that is most maddening (for me anyway)....I was angery with myself for days....lol, it was a painful lesson, I hope it was fully learned...lol, but we shall see as only time will tell. :D

And in real life, at times you have no choice to confront it. I am not referring to Forum discussion.
 

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And in real life, at times you have no choice to confront it. I am not referring to Forum discussion.
oh for sure with that one, and I don't have an issue with fighting really if it is fair, it can be quite healthy...but if the fight isn't fair, and if they don't get things, I tend to shed those types of individuals from my world, I really am into harmony and I don't like disturbance or negativity, it does affect us...and with some individuals in the past I have allowed it to go on for too long, but really when we work our own stuff out, the rest falls into place, (eventually) It's all about learning and some of my life lessons have been repetitive and tough. Life's for learning and none of us is perfect.
 

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oh for sure with that one, and I don't have an issue with fighting really if it is fair, it can be quite healthy...but if the fight isn't fair, and if they don't get things, I tend to shed those types of individuals from my world, I really am into harmony and I don't like disturbance or negativity, it does affect us...and with some individuals in the past I have allowed it to go on for too long, but really when we work our own stuff out, the rest falls into place, (eventually) It's all about learning and some of my life lessons have been repetitive and tough. Life's for learning and none of us is perfect.

The site I work at ( Security) is the only type like that in Western Canada that processes 150-180 K drivers a year-
I deal with 10's of thousands of drivers a year- truckers- today one had a bad day - called me everything- I patiently listened as he was swearing up a storm - Asked him if i had done something- takes their focus away- then he started on the rules and cursing me- I ignored it all.
Yes their were a small number of people present.

He has been at the site on a number of occasions- never an issue- never anything but polite- so he was having a bad day.

I will see him again and see what he has to say then. If he has nothing to say, I will leave it at that - It takes time for some to realize their behavior was not appropriate.
And if or when they apologize, I explain that at times we all have a bad days and it is forgotten.

That said- if I had written it up- he was toast at this site. And that company has a ton of contracts to deliver.

And yes I know the owner of the company-
Hope that makes sense.
 

Sal

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The site I work at ( Security) is the only type like that in Western Canada that processes 150-180 K drivers a year-
I deal with 10's of thousands of drivers a year- truckers- today one had a bad day - called me everything- I patiently listened as he was swearing up a storm - Asked him if i had done something- takes their focus away- then he started on the rules and cursing me- I ignored it all.
Yes their were a small number of people present.

He has been at the site on a number of occasions- never an issue- never anything but polite- so he was having a bad day.

I will see him again and see what he has to say then. If he has nothing to say, I will leave it at that - It takes time for some to realize their behavior was not appropriate.
And if or when they apologize, I explain that at times we all have a bad days and it is forgotten.

That said- if I had written it up- he was toast at this site. And that company has a ton of contracts to deliver.

And yes I know the owner of the company-
Hope that makes sense.
yes it makes excellent sense...I think the way you handled that was awesome.