Temporary Foreign Workers put 270 Canadians out of work

[PoliticalNick]

Capable is one thing but willing might be something else. You need BOTH!

You are right. Not all Canadians are willing to move or work away from home and those that fall into this category should be denied EI or welfare. If there is a job in Canada in your field and you refuse to go to it you don't deserve any assistance. Conversely if you are living away from home for long periods so you aren't on EI or welfare you should receive a significant tax break.

This situation though isn't one where they weren't willing. They had already been away from home for months and were obviously willing and fully expected to be away longer.

 

[relic]

Trouble is,everybody wants thirty five bucks an hour just for showing up.paid just for taking up space on the site.It's disgusting how people think they are owed top dollar for little or no work.

 

[petros]

Really? $35 an hour eh? Why so low?

 

[JLM]

Trouble is,everybody wants thirty five bucks an hour just for showing up.paid just for taking up space on the site.It's disgusting how people think they are owed top dollar for little or no work.

You got that right, it's always been my contention that if you don't know anything you aren't worth anything. (Hard manual labour exempt)

You are right. Not all Canadians are willing to move or work away from home and those that fall into this category should be denied EI or welfare. If there is a job in Canada in your field and you refuse to go to it you don't deserve any assistance. Conversely if you are living away from home for long periods so you aren't on EI or welfare you should receive a significant tax break.

This situation though isn't one where they weren't willing. They had already been away from home for months and were obviously willing and fully expected to be away longer.

You're right.......................up to a point. I don't think you should be expected to move to Baffin Island to take a minimum wage job.

 

[taxslave]

From a free enterprise perspective, the company is doing nothing wrong. There are people all over the world willing to work for a lot less money than Canadians are. They will also work at more dangerous jobs without whining about safety. The workers tend to be far from home, so much easier to control and manipulate.

Once we get rid of the unions, then there won't be anybody to complain about TFWs.

Don't hold your breath. The workers compensation boards will be all over these companies. There is also nothing preventing unions from organizing the temps.

 

[petros]

A foreign owned company can hire whoever the hell they please from wherever the hell they please.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

That sounds fair. IF, you stop allowing Canadians to work abroad.

It is senseless to write one set of rules for our industry, while we take advantage of other countries' industry.

I personally know more than 10 guys who work overseas. Why is that allowed?

I don't see the connection. That would be the problem of the countries in which the Canadians are working. Whatever Canada decided to do has no bearing on that.

The problem I see with the above rules are that they do not take into account landed immigrants. If we have chosen to welcome them into Canada, they should have the rights and privileges associated with that. If we don't want them, that is an discussion on immigration policy.

 

[mentalfloss]

It's a free market but we should also be mindful of what kind of harm could be caused.

 

[Goober]

A foreign owned company can hire whoever the hell they please from wherever the hell they please.

Nope- If a Canadian can fill the position they cannot.

 

[taxslave]

Nope- If a Canadian can fill the position they cannot.

I think it depends on what the job is. Nearly all our management is American but none of the workers are although we were told by our union that if they couldn't fill all the positions they would bring in union workers from Washington and Oregon.

 

[Goober]

I think it depends on what the job is. Nearly all our management is American but none of the workers are although we were told by our union that if they couldn't fill all the positions they would bring in union workers from Washington and Oregon.

True- And I am sure there are regs for that. I was referring to the Chines opening a mine in BC and using the ability to speak Mandarin as a requirement.

 

[JLM]

True- And I am sure there are regs for that. I was referring to the Chines opening a mine in BC and using the ability to speak Mandarin as a requirement.

That's understandable, fewer hassles if the employee can talk the same lingo as the boss. -

 

[petros]

Nope- If a Canadian can fill the position they cannot.

Malarkey.

 

[damngrumpy]

There is a question a somewhat serious one and once again the answer
comes from emotion rather than facts or practicality.
I am a farmer an in the interior of BC we have a lot of Mexican Workers.
Why? First of people scream we should force welfare people to pick the
fruit. NO we shouldn't. Why on earth would I want people to pick and
bruise my fruit because they didn't want to be there?
There are all kinds of people who don't want those jobs and don't think its
easy work its not. You can make a lot of money picking. I pay 25 bucks a
bin. I am a small operation now and I don't hire like I used to but when I did
I saw people make150 bucks or more every day. This year a friend of mine
hired Mexicans they chose piece work and they made over two hundred
bucks a day.
The problem isn't foreign workers its the farmers and construction companies
that abuse the original intent of the program. You know, those eithical people
who have always operated without ethics and a willingness to go by the rules.
Instead of everyone benefittting they do end around the law tactics and in the
end we end up with regulations we never wanted.

 

[mentalfloss]

Malarkey.

Didn't the feds just get a whole bunch of crap because of the RBC scandal?

Then they back-pedalled on the policy after all the media exposure.

We can't just sell ourselves out for ideology.

 

[JLM]

There is a question a somewhat serious one and once again the answer
comes from emotion rather than facts or practicality.
I am a farmer an in the interior of BC we have a lot of Mexican Workers.
Why? First of people scream we should force welfare people to pick the
fruit. NO we shouldn't. Why on earth would I want people to pick and
bruise my fruit because they didn't want to be there?
There are all kinds of people who don't want those jobs and don't think its
easy work its not. You can make a lot of money picking. I pay 25 bucks a
bin. I am a small operation now and I don't hire like I used to but when I did
I saw people make150 bucks or more every day. This year a friend of mine
hired Mexicans they chose piece work and they made over two hundred
bucks a day.
The problem isn't foreign workers its the farmers and construction companies
that abuse the original intent of the program. You know, those eithical people
who have always operated without ethics and a willingness to go by the rules.
Instead of everyone benefittting they do end around the law tactics and in the
end we end up with regulations we never wanted.

There's a simple solution to that problem. People should be able to hire whoever they like and if a person refuses to do the job or can't do a decent job, like bruising the fruit, then F' him, he doesn't get welfare. You can't suck and blow at the same time! -

 

[taxslave]

There's a simple solution to that problem. People should be able to hire whoever they like and if a person refuses to do the job or can't do a decent job, like bruising the fruit, then F' him, he doesn't get welfare. You can't suck and blow at the same time! -

But don't you know they are entitled to freeload?

 

[JLM]

But don't you know they are entitled to freeload?

Actually this thread raises another question or two. First of all under our rights and freedoms aren't we allowed to hire people of our choosing and second- is a person's ethnicity any one else's business?

 

[Omicron]

Okay, so... if someone sneeks into my country to take away my job from an evil employer needing to be used as an example of how big a latex-***** a fat ugly pig can take without being killed if true ruler justice were in charge, you're telling me the forces of twisted darkness shall swoop down and tell me I get to make a slave out of that one until my job is paid back???

 

[petros]

There is a question a somewhat serious one and once again the answer
comes from emotion rather than facts or practicality.
I am a farmer an in the interior of BC we have a lot of Mexican Workers.
Why? First of people scream we should force welfare people to pick the
fruit. NO we shouldn't. Why on earth would I want people to pick and
bruise my fruit because they didn't want to be there?
There are all kinds of people who don't want those jobs and don't think its
easy work its not. You can make a lot of money picking. I pay 25 bucks a
bin. I am a small operation now and I don't hire like I used to but when I did
I saw people make150 bucks or more every day. This year a friend of mine
hired Mexicans they chose piece work and they made over two hundred
bucks a day.
The problem isn't foreign workers its the farmers and construction companies
that abuse the original intent of the program. You know, those eithical people
who have always operated without ethics and a willingness to go by the rules.
Instead of everyone benefittting they do end around the law tactics and in the
end we end up with regulations we never wanted.

30 years ago it was hippys from Quebec, once the fruit was gone they'd move on the Lower Mainland and pick magic mushrooms then head home while stinking up the train.