Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Colpy

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Colpy. Colpy. Colpy.

You should limit the time you spend paying attention to fools. Not cut it out entirely, mind. Just limit it.

Just trying to understand both sides of the debate.... :)

 

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As a practical matter, the other side of the debate now boils down to "Big ugly scary guns! Run! Hide! Legislate!"

As I've said before, any "gun debate" in the U.S. that doesn't focus on handguns is just insane, seeing as how well over 90% of gun homicides in the U.S. are committed, not with big, scary "assault weapons," but with handguns.

But that debate has occurred, and is over for now. So we'll go after the big, splashy, headline-news guns, regardless of how minor a role they play in gun crimes.
 

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Colpy. Colpy. Colpy.

You should limit the time you spend paying attention to fools. Not cut it out entirely, mind. Just limit it.

Fools can be dangerous. Worse they can get into positions of power. Just look at the tea party.
Most of us are not opposed to keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous hands but for the most part with the rules the leftie anti gun crowd is pushing the only people to have guns will be criminals. As with Canada's misguided and now fortunately defunct long gun registry the bureaucrats, with no knowledge of sporting guns tried to make criminals out of ordinary citizens.
 

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Fools can be dangerous. Worse they can get into positions of power. Just look at the tea party.
Most of us are not opposed to keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous hands

I'm opposed to that. Like it or not, under U.S. law as it currently stands, gun ownership is a civil right, protected by the Bill of Rights. If discharged felons, child abusers, spouse beaters, and uncommitted lunatics can exercise free speech, be secure in their homes and persons from unreasonable search and seizure, &c., they should also be allowed to keep and bear arms.
 

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Fools can be dangerous. Worse they can get into positions of power. Just look at the tea party.
Most of us are not opposed to keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous hands but for the most part with the rules the leftie anti gun crowd is pushing the only people to have guns will be criminals. As with Canada's misguided and now fortunately defunct long gun registry the bureaucrats, with no knowledge of sporting guns tried to make criminals out of ordinary citizens.
Yes it is utterly foolish to think you are Taxed Enough Already .right TAXSLAVE ?
 

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Most of us are not opposed to keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous hands but for the most part with the rules the leftie anti gun crowd is pushing the only people to have guns will be criminals. As with Canada's misguided and now fortunately defunct long gun registry the bureaucrats, with no knowledge of sporting guns tried to make criminals out of ordinary citizens.

The bureaucrats just did their jobs. The Liberal leadership was to blame and they were following orders from the national women's lobby. It was and remains a misandrist policy driven by radical feminists. We've driven it back under but don't think for a moment that its gone. Vigilance is necessary.

WE are grossly over taxed. Over regulated as well. Competent management could probably cut our taxes by 1/3 and provide the same or better service.

One always reads this accusation of over-regulation but never gets to see examples. What statutes and regulations would you do without? Got any ideas of what you would de-regulate?
 

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The bureaucrats just did their jobs. The Liberal leadership was to blame and they were following orders from the national women's lobby. It was and remains a misandrist policy driven by radical feminists. We've driven it back under but don't think for a moment that its gone. Vigilance is necessary.



One always reads this accusation of over-regulation but never gets to see examples. What statutes and regulations would you do without? Got any ideas of what you would de-regulate?

Of course I have ideas. Just start with overlapping jurisdictions. The example I use most is parks. There are at least four levels of parks in Canada, all with their own top heavy bureaucracy yet there is only one level of taxpayer to foot the bill.
 

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WE are grossly over taxed. Over regulated as well. Competent management could probably cut our taxes by 1/3 and provide the same or better service.
which is exactly the tea parties aim.

Of course I have ideas. Just start with overlapping jurisdictions. The example I use most is parks. There are at least four levels of parks in Canada, all with their own top heavy bureaucracy yet there is only one level of taxpayer to foot the bill.
And notice they all drive big new four wheel drive pick ups .
 

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Of course I have ideas. Just start with overlapping jurisdictions. The example I use most is parks. There are at least four levels of parks in Canada, all with their own top heavy bureaucracy yet there is only one level of taxpayer to foot the bill.

If you did that we would end up with only one version of park. Since your apparent goal is Canada-wide you would have to eliminate all provincial parks. Local input would be stifled. The federal parks bureaucracy would become huge and bloated and more inefficient. One of the main objects of the constitution is to spread power out both within jurisdictions and between jurisdictions (ie. federal or provincial). What you claim as being nickle and dime wasteful is intended on many levels to prevent one person or group from amassing too much power. It is necessary to protect us all.
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If you did that we would end up with only one version of park. Since your apparent goal is Canada-wide you would have to eliminate all provincial parks. Local input would be stifled. The federal parks bureaucracy would become huge and bloated and more inefficient. One of the main objects of the constitution is to spread power out both within jurisdictions and between jurisdictions (ie. federal or provincial). What you claim as being nickle and dime wasteful is intended on many levels to prevent one person or group from amassing too much power. It is necessary to protect us all.
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That is my plan. One efficient bureaucracy running all the parks. Right now we have hundreds of bloated bureaucracies all doing the same thing. And it is not nickel and dime either.
I would do the same for education. One ministry for the entire country. That way a kid could move from Halifax to vancouver and be within a day or two of the same spot. Much easier to have standardized tests with a standard system and a lot cheaper to run. I don't figure the government unions would like it but their opinion is largely self serving with no consideration for the people that foot the bill.