More Harper hypocrisy

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Why are you still on about this? It has already been pointed out to you and proven with links, that the cut does not reduce the effectiveness of Elections Canada as they have the ability to draw from general revenues when they need it.

Because he is not interested in facts. He's only interested in feeding everyone a good old helping of sh!t sandwiches.

This is Harper Canada where everything is vetted through the PCO, it's ridiculous to talk about the independence of Canadian government agencies in "Harper" Canada.

Cutting basic funding to an agency that is responsible for ensuring the lawful functioning of our electoral system by a government that has already shown large scale contempt for both the rule and spirit of that system probably isn't to the benefit of those of us who would like to also benefit from that system... as we're theoretically supposed to in a democratic system.

And I'm still on about this because unlike you apparently, I don't think the official government line is the last word, nor should it be in a functioning democratic system. Is this a conservative support group or a forum where we can have actual factual based discussions?

Yes Gerryh is the leader of our conservative support forum. It's his job to distribute all the blue pills on Wednesday and mock Liberal Zealot Morons like you on Saturday.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Factual based discussions? (I'm trying to ignore the tragic abuse of syntax and grammar here because it's a bit petty, but it sticks out like a black cat in the snow) Apparently, you don't really want to be a full member of that club and are just content to be an honorary member.

Actually you are factually correctimundo.

 

Cobalt_Kid

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Since when are you capable of doing that??? :mrgreen:

Being PC PC isn't factual, on the climate change issue alone the conservative party is so out of touch with reality it shouldn't be anywhere near a decision making apparatus.
 

Jonny_C

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Being PC PC isn't factual, on the climate change issue alone the conservative party is so out of touch with reality it shouldn't be anywhere near a decision making apparatus.

The Conservatives have some credibility problems of their own, but I was talking about your Liberal propaganda. ;-)
 

tay

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Stevie's buddies have been middle fingering us for a long time, now? According to a 2007 report by Shane Dyson at the Langley Free Press, the Harpets refuse to follow the rules.

Six years later, and it's on steroids. But check out Shane's article, these weasels have a consistent track record, all the while crying how they're gonna bring accountability:

In a November 8, 2005 news release, Langley MP Mark Warawa said: "People who work hard, pay their taxes and play by the rules have been let down by the Liberals. Canadians deserve nothing less than accountable government. The Conservative Party has a plan to renew faith in government; to instill a culture of accountability in Ottawa."





From Conservative Leader Stephen Harper's April 21 2005 speech, in reaction to Paul Martin's address to
the nation:

"My fellow Canadians. We have all just witnessed a sad spectacle -- a prime minister so burdened with corruption in his own party that he is unable to do his job and lead the country, a party leader playing for time, begging for another chance.This is not how a prime minister should act."

And what would Stephen Harper say now that the Conservative Party of Canada is in a similar position of party corruption? In a recently revised Elections Canada financial report for 2005, the CPC acknowledges that the party did not report delegate fees collected for its national convention as donations, contrary to political financing laws.

More disturbing is their abysmal and near fraudulent accounting of "other revenue" and "other expenses".

In their amended report to Elections Canada, the Conservatives have "reclassified revenue related to the 2005 convention". The report now includes $539,915 in previously unreported donations, an extra $913,710 in "other revenue as well as a further $1.45 million in "other expenses."

In other words, they've just been caught in failing to disclose several of hundreds of thousands of dollars (if not millions) of donations. Much of this stems from not including delegate fees in their submissions to Elections Canada.

As a result, many Conservative financial donors, including Stephen Harper, have now been placed in the position of exceeding their annual political contributions limit.

The party has been required to send belated 2005 tax receipts to approximately 3,000 convention delegates. This will cause untold joy for those who now have to re-file their 2005 income tax return.

But worse than trying to skirt around on whether convention fees are donations or not, is the failure to disclose some $2,364710 in "other revenue" and "other expenses". That's a huge pile of cash to try and hide, especially when politicians place transparency in government on such a high pedestal.

It is remarkably ironic that this political financing chicanery has taken place by a party that proclaims its Federal Accountability Act as an ethical compass.

If only they had followed the rules, in the same manner that they have demanded the Liberals and others adhere to. But alas no.

Unfortunately, not one Conservative will take the high road on this issue, even though it's the right thing to do.I guess the Conservatives can no longer throw the first stone when it comes to ethics.
http://www.kimrichter.com/Blog/uploaded_images/Shane-blog-757511.jpg

http://langleyfreepress.blogspot.ca/2007/01/letter-to-editor-jan-2-2007-from-shane.html
 

tay

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Well I guess he knew he couldn't hide forever eh?

And that he had to get as far away from the media and the Senate scandals as he could, without looking like he was fleeing the country.


Mike Duffy's threat to drag him into court and grill him like a sardine seal must have driven him over the deep end.

So up to the North he went on his Great Escape Tour. And now he's bellowing like a walrus............................






Prime Minister Stephen Harper started his tour of Canada's North on Sunday with a full-throated attack on both Opposition parties, test-driving themes expected to carry the embattled Conservatives into the next election.

He trumpeted the Conservatives as champions of the Arctic at the same time as National Defence acknowledged that it has scrambled to buy snowmobiles for reserve army units operating in the unforgiving region.


In a highly partisan speech to supporters, delivered against the backdrop of a summer of eye-popping revelations of Senate misspending, Harper took aim at both of his opponents.

It was a direct appeal to the party's base, which has been badly shaken by the spending scandal, which has cost the Conservatives three senators, launched multiple police investigations and shows no sign of abating anytime soon.

The military, usually a main plank in galvanizing Conservatives, merited only passing reference Sunday, as the defence department conceded the recent purchase of snowmobiles for troops will be the last for nearly a decade.

In addition, the Arctic response companies will be asked to make do with older, heavy 1980s all-terrain vehicles, which until a few years ago were headed to the scrap heap.

The transport concerns are on top of reports last year that showed, despite the Arctic being a long-standing priority for the Conservative government, the army did not — until recently — have enough cold weather gear, most notably parkas.

A series of documents, obtained by The Canadian Press under access to information legislation, show the army has been preoccupied with equipping soldiers in the Arctic and fulfilling the Harper government's mandate to show the flag.


$2.5B in defence spending on chopping block


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PM Harper rips opposition on 1st stop of North tour - North - CBC News





 

damngrumpy

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In our society how are we as citizens supposed to deal with the problems
confronting our nation when we can't even agree on how we are going to
treat each other, Trudeau is a big boy and he will respond I am sure unless
the Liberal Party has gone to sleep. Problem with the LIberals in the recent
past is they were too arrogant to respond.
We must understand what we are dealing with, The conservatives who have
no conscience politically. The Liberals who still have that air of arrogance
even though they have been jilted by the Canadian Public and the NDP, who
do not grasp their own existence at times. All this and we want some common
sense from politicians?
The Tories will be humbled by their own actions and that is coming soon.
Trudeau at first I thought what a mistake, now I am concerned because he has
a very good chance of winning. Harper is at the end of the Conservative
rainbow and the sun is setting on them. In fact this next election could see
Trudeau win and the NDP remain in opposition. Can't happen? ask Mulroney
about that .
 

taxslave

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Harper on hot seat over country's Arctic rescue system



Prime Minister Stephen Harper is touting the Canadian Rangers as a pillar of search and rescue in the North -- even as a newly released defence report warns of "glaring weaknesses" in Canada's ability to respond to Arctic emergencies.




Read more: Harper on hot seat over country's Arctic rescue system | CTV News

Rather odd that so many that complain about Harper's increased spending on the armed forces are now on him about not spending enough. Only a politician thinks it is possible to suck and blow at the same time.
 

captain morgan

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Rather odd that so many that complain about Harper's increased spending on the armed forces are now on him about not spending enough. Only a politician thinks it is possible to suck and blow at the same time.


What I get a kick out of is all of the hoopla from the opposition on the Senate expense scandal... How much is it costing the taxpayers to operate Parliament and have the opposition beat this horse over and over relative to $250,000?

The cost of the auditors has already exceeded that amount, how much more are Trudeau and Mulcair prepared to waste on the propaganda in the mean time?
 

hunboldt

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Our democratic system is based on having an election every 4 to 5 years, period. That's when you get your say.

A government rules by mandate, and it wants to rule with a view toward having that mandate renewed; that's realistically as much say as you have. The government keeps its finger on the pulse of public opinion, sometimes well and sometimes poorly. It tries to rule by guesstimating that pulse, and it will lose the next election if it mis-reads too badly.

The rest of what you seem to fondly think of as the democratic process (meaning, to you, that the government has to listen to you) doesn't work that way. If it did, we would be ruled by referendum.

OR by the Reform party . Recall by the people was the first plank The Master Race threw out in the Great New Conservative cookie dough mixer...
 

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Canadian government's jihad against 'disbelieving Canadians'



Over the last 15 years, Western political types have repeatedly treated the human race's tendency towards open-minded positivity disorder (OMPD) with high doses of fear-mongering in an attempt to induce in them the, more desirable, disinhibited reactive attachment to authority disorder (DRAAD). One example of this, (among an overwhelming number of other examples), comes from the relatively new rabid authoritarian on the block, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

In January this year, the office of the Canadian PM released a fantastically jingoistic video that was worthy of a place in the nefarious propaganda hall of fame. In the video, which combines Harper's address to the Canadian parliament with a cornucopia of manipulative and militaristic images, Harper enthusiastically extols the vile virtues of ISIS and the delightful danger they pose to "disbelieving Canadians". Harper tells the Canadian people that ISIS will "attack them in any manner" and that they will "not feel secure even in our own homes" and then proceeds with a bellicose monologue full of bluff and bluster that really deserved to be accompanied by 'Ride of the valkyries'.

Canadian government's jihad against 'disbelieving Canadians' -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net
 

pgs

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Canadian government's jihad against 'disbelieving Canadians'



Over the last 15 years, Western political types have repeatedly treated the human race's tendency towards open-minded positivity disorder (OMPD) with high doses of fear-mongering in an attempt to induce in them the, more desirable, disinhibited reactive attachment to authority disorder (DRAAD). One example of this, (among an overwhelming number of other examples), comes from the relatively new rabid authoritarian on the block, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

In January this year, the office of the Canadian PM released a fantastically jingoistic video that was worthy of a place in the nefarious propaganda hall of fame. In the video, which combines Harper's address to the Canadian parliament with a cornucopia of manipulative and militaristic images, Harper enthusiastically extols the vile virtues of ISIS and the delightful danger they pose to "disbelieving Canadians". Harper tells the Canadian people that ISIS will "attack them in any manner" and that they will "not feel secure even in our own homes" and then proceeds with a bellicose monologue full of bluff and bluster that really deserved to be accompanied by 'Ride of the valkyries'.

Canadian government's jihad against 'disbelieving Canadians' -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net
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