So the one you name has errors by your own admission and was made over 50 years ago. You expect new movies to go back to that? Its not going to happen.
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So the one you name has errors by your own admission and was made over 50 years ago. You expect new movies to go back to that? Its not going to happen.
I thought this comment regarding DG was unwarranted:
You have the most idiotic posts.
DG has never been arrogant, mean or nasty to anyone on this forum as far as I know. He has always behaved and I find his posts thoughtful and worth reading.
REgarding the joo-hating jab... kiss my @$$
Regarding the US hostage taking.... I am proud Canada helped the US and we did get credit for our efforts at the time, even if the movie glosses over it. At least it wasn't as bad as the movie U-571... which was complete BS. The Americans never stole the German enigma machine from a German submarine. such an incident happened, but it was the Brits who did it, in May 1941, before the US entered WWII.
U-571 (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Another issue I have with this incident, is that few people question why Iranians were so pissed at the Americans that they would storm their embassy in violation of international laws and treaties.
The fact is Iranians had plenty of good reasons to be angry with the US.
60 Years of U.S. Intervention in Iran: A Horror for the People
No doubt most American hostages were legitimate diplomats who should have been afforded diplomatic immunity. But some Americans in Iran were serious bad a$$es who supported and/or participated in the abduction, torture and murder of tens of thousands of Iranians. If that happened to your family or friend, you'd be pissed too. But that doesn't justify what they did. My point is to provide context.
If the US hadn't done all this evil to the Iranian people, I doubt the Iran would have become a hostile to the west Theocracy.
If you are a conspiracy theorist, this link regarding what might have really happened during this hostage taking incident might interest you:
October surprise conspiracy theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Typical american telling half the story to put his own spin on things. Canada was active in the war starting Sept 16 1939. There was more to Canada's contribution than just foot soldiers(cannon fodder).:roll:
Ultimately, I don't think they have to tell 'the right' story, or get it historically accurate, especially if they say it's based on a true story, but this little tid bit, to me, is a glaring oversight and borders on rude. When you decide to make a movie about something that was such a huge moment in people's lives, even if you've written them out of the screen version, you include them.
Oddly enough, everyone else seems to be having a discussion, you seem to be the one who's put on his angry panties today. I get that you don't like when Canadians say anything against the US in any way shape or form, but coming from someone who is so adamant in so many threads, about historical accuracy, I find it interesting that you can't stomach Canadians discussing the omissions Affleck made here.
Yes, we declared war on that day, and 6 days later our ships set sail on their first convoy escort mission.
It should also be noted that the Canadians were the only ones to achieve their objective
on D Day itself they also had to hold up because in a little over twenty four hours they
were already twelve miles inland without tanks or heavy armour.
Yes America suffered an embarrassing setback in Iran and I would say it points out the
uncivilized behaviour of the Islamic peoples. It also troubles me the USA did not learn from
the experience as it has happened again with far more serious consequences.
The fact is this is an entertainment feature, not an official American position and that has
to be pointed out here. But the problem is there is so much belief in some of this stuff it
becomes folklore of the things that did not happen.
on D Day itself they also had to hold up because in a little over twenty four hours they
were already twelve miles inland without tanks or heavy armour.
Yes America suffered an embarrassing setback in Iran and I would say it points out the
uncivilized behaviour of the Islamic peoples. It also troubles me the USA did not learn from
the experience as it has happened again with far more serious consequences.
The fact is this is an entertainment feature, not an official American position and that has
to be pointed out here. But the problem is there is so much belief in some of this stuff it
becomes folklore of the things that did not happen.
A war effort is more than just boots on the ground. Within a few months of the start of WWII, Canada was cranking out 1,460 airmen every four week. That early Canadian contribution was critical to Allied success during the Battle of Britain.
Oh and someone mentioned the Longest Day being accurate for the most part probably,
One small problem where they show the troops going into the little Village along the beach,
those were not American or British Troops they were in fact Canadian troops, as pointed
out in a CBC historic documentary.
One small problem where they show the troops going into the little Village along the beach,
those were not American or British Troops they were in fact Canadian troops, as pointed
out in a CBC historic documentary.
What about the uncivilized behavior of the Americans in Iran from 1953-1979?
The ugly truths which led to the 1979 hostage taking in Iran:
Iran, 1953: When the government of Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh nationalized the Anglo-Iranian oil company, the resulting sanctions on the country led by Great Britain and the United States resulted in economic hardship and political unrest. Fearing that such instability could result in a communist takeover and concerned about the precedent of nationalization on American oil companies elsewhere in the Middle East, agents of the Central Intelligence Agency organized a military coup in 1953, ousting the elected prime minister. The United States returned the exiled Shah to Iran, where he ruled with an iron fist for more than a quarter century. Tens of thousands of dissidents were tortured and murdered by his dreaded SAVAK secret police, organized and trained by the United States. The repression was largely successful in wiping out the democratic opposition. The SAVAK was less successful in infiltrating religious institutions, however, so when the revolution finally took place, toppling the Shah in 1979, the formerly secular Iran came under the leadership of virulently reactionary and anti-American Islamists. The result of the Islamic revolution was not only the end of one of America's strongest economic and strategic relationships in the Middle East, but also the hostage crisis of 1979-81, Iranian support for anti-American terrorist groups, and a series of armed engagements in the Persian Gulf during the 1980s. Had the United States not overthrown Iran's constitutional government in 1953 and replaced it with the dictatorial Shah, there would not have been the Islamic Revolution and its bloody aftermath
A History Lesson: U.S. Intervention in the Middle East Has Always Ended Up Being a Disaster for American Interests
Did the above US actions against the Iranian people during this time, justify their strong feelings of animosity???
For the record, this incident violated international laws and treaties regarding diplomatic immunity which must remain sacrosanct. Nations without diplomatic relations loose ways and means to resolve their differences peacefully. Even though the Theocratic regime which seized power in the 1979 Islamic Revolution did not organize or participate in the hostage taking crime, they had an obligation to intervene on behalf of American diplomats and set them free.
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He just never misses a chance to demonize anyone who is aganst islam....taking an oscar thread and turning it into another obsessive rant:roll:
Another myth. They were the only ones to REACH their objectives but were pushed back.
You just have to read books and not get all your info from a forum. Geez
Listen to the resident maple syrup swallower and hypocrite. You need to read a book or two as well.
No I don't really put too much on the historical accuracy of a Hollywood MOVIE. A MOVIE. It was NOT a documentary.
No anger here. I love smashing these myths. Its fun.
Yeah no kidding.
I never knew Ben Affleck held so much sway over Canada. Not bad for a kid from Cambridge Massachusetts. lol
Right... another MOVIE
Another issue I have with this incident, is that few people question why Iranians were so pissed at the Americans that they would storm their embassy in violation of international laws and treaties.
More apolgies for these Iranian thugs.
I saw a documentary on this and was warmed to learn that many of the male students ended up dying in the Iran-Iraq War.
Typical US Democrats. They never admit to losing a Presidential Election... they are always stolen somehow. Carter was a bigger idiot than our current President and a fellow Jooo hater like you.
It's you that needs to read a book or two, and not ones written a "my shyte don't stink" american.
Tone it down guys!
There will be never ending opportunities for us to castigate each other but when the chips are down we still need to remember we share a land mass and have done so with relative calm for many generations.
For my compatriot Canucks I'd like to say we should be happy with our history as for our numbers we've consistantly punched well above our weight as has been acknowledged many times by our American friends.
For our neighbours to the south I'd like to say our problems with your far greater influence upon the planet is one of perhaps not taking the opportunity when it presents itself to show continued appreciation for past deeds.
We are smaller and have to roar louder to be heard in this huge engine room called North America. That having to raise our voice does not automatically default to an "inferiority complex" regardless of it's sound.
Lastly; hang in there everybody as we will eventually need each other more than you could possibly imagine as the future unfolds.
There will be never ending opportunities for us to castigate each other but when the chips are down we still need to remember we share a land mass and have done so with relative calm for many generations.
For my compatriot Canucks I'd like to say we should be happy with our history as for our numbers we've consistantly punched well above our weight as has been acknowledged many times by our American friends.
For our neighbours to the south I'd like to say our problems with your far greater influence upon the planet is one of perhaps not taking the opportunity when it presents itself to show continued appreciation for past deeds.
We are smaller and have to roar louder to be heard in this huge engine room called North America. That having to raise our voice does not automatically default to an "inferiority complex" regardless of it's sound.
Lastly; hang in there everybody as we will eventually need each other more than you could possibly imagine as the future unfolds.
I might feel offended if this came from anyone else but the "my shyte don't stink" canadian.