Muslim paedophile who groomed victim on FB walks...

[EagleSmack]

That doesn't make it right.

Where do you draw the line?

 

[karrie]

Where do you draw the line?

There is no finite line, that's why we have judges to assess individual situations.

 

[petros]

100 years ago a relationship like this would have been 100% normal Socially, Religiously biologically and morally. Other than mandatory school attendance which gets in the way of Socially, Religiously biologically and moral pregnancy what changed?

 

[CDNBear]

I still haven't seen a link to the judge's decision.

Which part?

Most likely your opinion is based solely on a report from a news source with an anti-Islam, anti-immigrant agenda.

Most likely my opinion is based solely on many outlets and an actual investigation by a British MP.

If the 18 year old boy was white and Christian and the 13 year old girl was brown and Muslim, while all the other facts in this case remained the same, would you want to see the 18 year old white Christian boy do jail time for having sex with a 13 year old brown Muslim girl?

I'd still say there was something wrong.

But I'd have to look at trends, you know, trends like back in the day in the southern states.

If only changing race and religion while all the other facts remain the same, changes your opinion, then you just proved to yourself that you are an Islamaphobic racist.

Nah, we aren't you.

IMO, I doubt this news source would have reported this story if it didn't involve a Muslim boy and a white girl...

I already posted a link to the same source that reported the very same crime committed by a white dude.

You fail.

But labeling the accused as a Muslim pedophile and an abuser (without mentioning his age until further down in the fine print) preying on an innocent 13 year old white girl, sells newspapers and promotes their anti-Islam, anti-immigrant editorial slant. So they ran the story and it pushed your racist anti-Islam hot button.

Yep, and the only person stuck on it is you.

That way you don't actually have to look at the case and can ignore the trends, lol.

BTW, I don't know that the above is true as I haven't read the judge's decision.

It's in the article.

But I'm not so willing to accept the story at face value as the perception created by the news source defies common sense.

If you can get passed, as I have, the spin, it follows reported trends.

A more likely scenario, based solely on the leniency of the sentence and an assumption that the judge is neither insane nor incompetent:

The judge, after reviewing the evidence (including months of online correspondence), decided that these two teenagers were close enough in intellectual and sexual maturity to not warrant a jail sentence for the 18 year old boy. The judge must have decided the 18 year old boy was sexually naive to the point of being close to the 13 year old girl's peer. The 13 year old girl must have played a leadership or equal role in the relationship, rather than a passive or submissive role. The 18 year old boy must not have manipulated the 13 year old. Religion and education may have contributed to the boy's sexual naivety. The boy's ignorance of the law did not influence the judge's decision. The 18 year old is not a threat to society or young girls and would be harmed by prison time. >>> Only then would the judge's decision to give the boy to nine months youth custody, suspended for two years, along with a two-year probation supervision order make sense.

Nope, that's just you apologizing for a Muslim rapist, nothing unusual there.

The Judge stated he was guilty, gave him a 9 month sentence, but suspended it because he felt it would damage him.

It's all right there.

You ignoring it and pretending to be objective, just makes your posts look silly and dishonest. Nothing unusual there either.

Since he didn't get jail time, the judge must have decided that these two had a peer or close to peer relationship despite the age difference.

Nope. As I have clearly proven.

But please, go on with your apologies for a rapist.

 

[earth_as_one]

100 years ago a relationship like this would have been 100% normal Socially, Religiously biologically and morally. Other than mandatory school attendance which gets in the way of Socially, Religiously biologically and moral pregnancy what changed?

You are correct,

In the Shakespearean play, "Romeo and Juliet", Juliet was two weeks short of her 14th birthday, and Romeo's age was never given. Other characters in the play refer to him as "young Romeo". Lady Capulet was actually MARRIED at 12-13, which we know because she tells Juliet that she was already a mother when she was her age.

But times change... and so do the laws. In Canada, 14 was the age of consent until recently. Now its 16. But there is a 5 year age difference exception for 14 and 15 years old. So this incident if it occurred in Canada would have been illegal.
Canada's age of consent raised by 2 years - Canada - CBC News

Worldwide ages of consent:
Worldwide Ages of Consent

 

[CDNBear]

You are correct...

Irrelevant, it's illegal for an adult to engage in sex with a person under the age of 16 in the UK.

They call it rape.

 

[Goober]

You are correct,

In the Shakespearean play, "Romeo and Juliet", Juliet was two weeks short of her 14th birthday, and Romeo's age was never given. Other characters in the play refer to him as "young Romeo". Lady Capulet was actually MARRIED at 12-13, which we know because she tells Juliet that she was already a mother when she was her age.

But times change... and so do the laws. In Canada, 14 was the age of consent until recently. Now its 16. But there is a 5 year age difference exception for 14 and 15 years old. So this incident if it occurred in Canada would have been illegal.
Canada's age of consent raised by 2 years - Canada - CBC News

Worldwide ages of consent:
Worldwide Ages of Consent

And we used to hang thieves, had debtors prisons- children worked in mines and factories.
get real here.
He was guilty of Rape and used his Religious schooling -training to walk. That Madras should be shut down- penalties involved - Teaching and indoctrinating prejudice is most likely against the law.

 

[CDNBear]

And we used to hang thieves, had debtors prisons- children worked in mines and factories.
get real here.

According to EAO, only the west and Israel have to be civilized Goob's.

Teaching and indoctrinating prejudice is most likely against the law.

Naaahhh. It's Ok to teach young men that women are no more worthy than a discarded lolipop.

 

[earth_as_one]

CB's bold faced lies:

...EAO obviously supports a two tier legal system.

...you are forever apologizing for Muslims when they break the law.

No, you ignored the Judges reasons, and instead focused on the articles spin, while you came up with excuses for why a Muslim man would rape a 13 year old girl....

You're over in another thread apologizing for a Muslim kid raping a 13 year old girl..

What I actually wrote:

I do not support this 18 year old being treated differently than any other 18 year old boy regarding a sexual relationship with 13 year old... taking into consideration the dynamics of their relationship. That's why judge's should be allowed to use judgement.

Words in the title of this thread (pedophile, Muslim "groomed on facebook") are probably deliberately misleading and likely do not accurately describe the judge's decision. \Either that or the judge is insane and/or incompetent, which is why an appeal process exists...

 

[CDNBear]

What I actually wrote...

Yep, well one of your posts anyways. You conveniently ignore the one with your make believe story in it.

taking into consideration the dynamics of their relationship. That's why judge's should be allowed to use judgement.

That's an excuse.

 

[earth_as_one]

I do not support this 18 year old being treated differently than any other 18 year old boy regarding a sexual relationship with 13 year old... taking into consideration the dynamics of their relationship. That's why judge's should be allowed to use judgement.

 

[CDNBear]

I do not support this 18 year old being treated differently than any other 18 year old boy regarding a sexual relationship with 13 year old... taking into consideration the dynamics of their relationship. That's why judge's should be allowed to use judgement.

The article was clear, the Judge felt it would do damage to Rashid.

They even quoted the Judge, lol.

Keep making those excuses, lol.

 

[earth_as_one]

I strongly suspect that the judge's decision was based on more than just the quotes referenced in the OP. Likely two months of electronic correspondence and their testimony (aka evidence, not excuses) were factors in the judge's decision.

Taken at face value, the referenced report in the OP indicates the judge is either insane or incompetent. Only an Islamaphobic idiot would read that report and not be skeptical regarding the report's accuracy and completeness.

 

[CDNBear]

I strongly suspect that the judge's decision was based on more than just the quotes referenced in the OP.

Nope, it was quite clear.

Likely two months of electronic correspondence and their testimony (aka evidence, not excuses) were factors in the judge's decision.

There you go making things up to apologize for Muslims again.

Taken at face value, the referenced report in the OP indicates the judge is either insane or incompetent.

Did you read the same article I did?

I understand his ruling.

You on the other hand need to make up stuff to get around the obvious, lol.

Only a complete moron couldn't skip the usual spin and glean the facts.

Yet here we are.

Only an Islamaphobic idiot would read that report and not be skeptical regarding the report's accuracy and completeness.

Are you saying the article is fabricating the Judges reason for suspending Rashid's sentence?

That's actually a criminal offense in the UK as far as I know.

It is here.

 

[DaSleeper]

The article was clear, the Judge felt it would do damage to Rashid.

They even quoted the Judge, lol.

Keep making those excuses, lol.

If someone took off his Dhimwit glasses when he looked in the mirror he might see a Western value and Jew hater instead of looking for islamophobes around every corner.....everybody else sees him for what he is8O

 

[CDNBear]

If someone took off his Dhimwit glasses when he looked in the mirror he might see a Western value and Jew hater instead of looking for islamophobes around every corner...

Misdirection is the weakest tool in his drawer, but he keeps playing it.

..everybody else sees him for what he is8O

I know, but I do love making him so upset by pointing out the lies, misdirection, hypocrisy and propaganda in his posts.