The yanks are good at # 1: Do nothing. unless it is someone else's business that is. They have done diddly squat as a result of all the other mass shootings down there. The second amendment has to go, but they are afraid to do it.
BREAKING: WABC: One dead in school shooting in Newtown, CT
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"By many measures, Americans have changed on the question since the 1990s, when people favored gun control over gun rights – by a 2-to-1 margin in polling after the 1999 Columbine High School massacre in Colorado. In a Gallup poll last year, 55 percent said gun laws should stay the same or be more lenient, while 43 percent wanted them toughened."
Gun Control Debate Back In Spotlight After Shooting
An amendment requires a 2/3 vote in both houses, and ratification by 2/3 of state legislatures.
It ain't gonna happen.
And if it did, it would not remove the hundreds of millions of guns held by US citizens.
Connecticut gun laws fifth toughest in USA.....
Connecticut gun laws among the toughest in the U.S.
So tell me, exactly what would cancelling the Second Amendment achieve??
Give us your vision of the ideal situation inn the USA.
Pretend you are Obama, and the Congress is compliant, and the Second Amendment has been overturned.
What do you do????
Why this story? Because it's massive and we can't ignore it. Yes, children do die every day and if we stopped and put any real thought into that, we wouldn't be able to do anything else. We would easily be consumed by empathy. But this, you can't not let it get to you. Add to that the large body count, the age of the victims, the fact that it occurred not in some obscure corner of the world but right on our doorstep. It becomes emotional overload.
I'm curious because I've heard a lot of people say this type of thing, along with characterizing the unborn child as a "fetus" instead of a "baby". I've always wanted to ask and I know that you have children, how did you refer to the unborn child when your wife/partner was expecting? I'm not judging here, your views on the abortion debate and when a life begins are your own. But when I was pregnant with both of my children I was carrying a baby, not a fetus. I've just always wondered how people who categorize their thoughts along those lines when it comes to the abortion debate differentiated when it was their own child. Again, merely curious.
Technically even bacteria are considered a form of life. Just because something is microscopic doesnt mean it isnt alive.
We need more guns, then we'll all be safe! This is clearly the solution to these problems, MORE guns!
Its not rocket science. Make them all illegal to start with. Jail those who possess. Oh by the way, there was a shooting in an alabama hospital today, wounding 3. Yes, guns are great aren't they? Pro gunners are idiots and the yanks are at the top of the list.
Why pretend the 2nd amendment is gone? That's not really a rational discussion to have, as that right is not realistically going to be overturned anytime in the near to medium future. There are plenty of reasonable things which can be discussed based on the merits without inventing unrealistic scenarios.
- Remove the gun show loop hole for background checks.
- Re-instate the restrictions on high capacity magazines and weapons of war.
- Other conditions for purchasing, such as proof of competency, which could include evaluations of mental fitness by range instructors.
- Since the majority of mass shootings occur in public places, and gun enthusiasts like Colpy would like to see armed people, how about a tax on ammo sales that must be spent on hiring security/law enforcement in public places.
I would add until their line in the sand is forced upon me.
Which is not a true statement. many people only shoot at targets. Then their are many that do not live in cities and o are capapble of not only thinking for themselves but doing as well. A gun of some kind is pretty much an essential tool if you have livestock.
How many people are in hospital in Alabama today for injuries inflicted by a vehicle?
Judging by your posts citiots lack the intelligence to make rational statements and have serious mental issues.
They are also handy for taking out knee caps where the guy is not quite bad enough to be dead!
Well, congrats on taking up the challenge, at least.
But now actually think about what you propose.
It would require creating a prison state.........and the suspension of the entire constitution to search, try offenders and collect weapons. And there would be (quite rightly) extensive resistance.
270 million guns. An armed people can never be oppressed. Your plan would require a war by the American government on its own people, who are quite well equipped to fight it.
Civil war.
How many children would die in that??
625,000 people died in the last one, and that was 150 years ago.
The idea is quite simply, idiotic.
1. Okay, but remember the guns used in the Connecticut shooting were registered, and the owner background checked. We need things that actually work....
2. Those are exactly the weapons protected by the second amendment.
3. Actually, that almost makes sense. I have always seen licensing as the best solution....but the guns in Connecticut were held by a licensed shooter.
4. HUGELY expensive....why not ENCOURAGE people to become trained on their own, paid for by themselves, qualify and background check them, and let them carry anywhere? I'd do it....although I already have all the qualifications.
Lets see, now. A civil war over it? If you believe that you are more mentally challenged than I thought. Drugs are illegal, I don't see a civil war over that. Robbing a bank is illegal, I don't see a civil war over that.
One point that you mentioned: the guns in this case were obtained legally. Yes, but if it was illegal to own guns, those weapons wouldn't have been there for the dimwit to take and use in the first place.
Oh yeah, guns are good for one thing: they give CNN something to talk all day about...
Obviously a problem exists. Easy access to guns is only part of the problem. So is lack of empathy and desensitization to violence.
3. Better screening and regulation regarding who possesses firearms.
4: Accountability.
Governments should be able to prevent people with a history of violence or mental disease from acquiring firearms. But just because you have a clean record doesn't mean you should be able to possess a firearm. I agree with Colpy regarding training/education to become qualified to possess a firearm. I'd also like to see all fire arm owners required to belong to a gun club or association which is accountable for the actions of its members and has the power to strip members of their firearms for dangerous irresponsible behavior. If a member commits a crime. the gun club should be partly liable.
Petition your MP to fund mental health treatment. Sane people are much safer around weapons than un or under-treated people with mental health issues.
Do you have to prove sanity to buy a bottle of bleach and bottle of ammonia to make mustard gas?
ANYBODY, any age, sex, race or space alien can buy those two products with no checks or balances.
Do you have to prove sanity to buy a bottle of bleach and bottle of ammonia to make mustard gas?
ANYBODY, any age, sex, race or space alien can buy those two products with no checks or balances.
My wife has had some issues with mis-carriages so we tried not to count any chickens until he was born. Didn't even buy baby stuff till 2-3 weeks before the date. I guess we may have used the term baby but my wife and I didn't even do the Downs tests because we had decided that for us abortion was not going to be our choice regardless.