THE UNITED NATIONS- Are they any use?

Spade

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I have always admired UNESCO, WHO, IAEA, IMO, peacekeeping, etc. And, it's a safety valve. Some hawks and empire loyalists may not. Pity.
 

Cannuck

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Engaging in dialogue and preparing timetables to schedule discussions to adopt a motion to debate the meaning of genocide since 1945
 

Kathie Bondar

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The UN, like the League of Nations before them, is a largely toothless organization when it comes to enforcing anything but at the same time, I think it does provide a valuable platform as a place for the nations of the world to at least table/discuss disputes. It ultimately failed to stop something like the US invasion of Iraq but it provided a place for both countries to make a case for the international community/press, and to be honest the failure as much in the intractibility of its members as the organization itself, although some members do go pretty far in wanting to influence the sovereignty of others.

How right you are. And above all, it provides the US with an international platform to advertise how noble they are. I say, give Obama another Nobel Peace Prize so he can pretend some more
 

JLM

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I'd like to know how much of our taxes go to "running" the U.N. and what the salary is of the head honcho.
 

MHz

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I'd like to see the big 5 have their voting rights taken away that way the rest of the nations won' t mind funding the place because they will get something for their money, right now all they get to do is listen to what the 5 dictate . They can supply the bodies when war with sharp sticks is the decision 'of the Nations'
 

EagleSmack

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Hey I'm all for dissolving the Big 5 too! And not paying as much as we do. Make everyone pay the same while you're at it.

When it comes to providing soldiers... count us out as well.

I have always admired UNESCO, WHO, IAEA, IMO, peacekeeping, etc. And, it's a safety valve. Some hawks and empire loyalists may not. Pity.

Peacekeeping... lmao. Rebel forces just rolled right UN Peace Keepers in the Congo earlier this month. Another example of the uselessness of UN Peace Keepers and the UN in general.

Congo rebels seize eastern city as U.N. forces look on | Reuters
 

Cliffy

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What do you mean "Next". Harpo voted as his puppet masters told him to.

Hey I'm all for dissolving the Big 5 too! And not paying as much as we do. Make everyone pay the same while you're at it.

When it comes to providing soldiers... count us out as well.
It must chafe US hawks. The UN is like a leash holding back their ambitions of unbridled warfare and exploitation.
 

Niflmir

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Yeah, the majority of UN member states just made it clear that privacy needs to be written into a bunch of constitutions, fast.

Kind of takes the bite out of some news when it is placed in a thread with a bunch of people celebrating the equivalence (in their mind) of Saddam's Iraq = Third Reich and using that imagined equivalence to argue against the UN.
 

Machjo

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JLM

Love love love the topic and your assessment with which I am in full agreement.

I loathe the moneygrabbers who have lost their primary purpose and have become
a mockery of all the good nations who support them and their "work".

Alternatively I believe the concept of a smaller representation of all the nations in
the world could still be a factor in searching for peace, inter-relationships, cooperation, uplifting of nations and all the other "good" things the U.N. have
neglected for years, but I would be adamant that their meetings were televised or
put up on the internet with reliable translation for the world to read and digest.

Translation's another problem. I remember reading that the UN spends at absolute minimum 12 million dollars a year on translation and interpretation services between its six languages, and that's just for the General Assembly alone! Worse yet, with Japan and Germany having tried to get their languages added on in recent years, the number is more likely to grow. Not efficient in the least.

Maybe it is time for Canada to pull out with a list of conditions for its reinclusion.
 

EagleSmack

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It must chafe US hawks. The UN is like a leash holding back their ambitions of unbridled warfare and exploitation.

Chafe the hawks? The UN Peace Keepers let a Rebel Force take over a city they were supposed to be keeping peace in. Do you have other idiotic posts to add to this?

The UN never stopped anyone intent on fighting.