Just wanted to put a break in his soliloquy...Gawd... he reminds me of an old troll here....with his posting syle.....
God’s law versus secular law. Which is moral?
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Huh?
You said just before this that Satan had dominion here.
Which is it?
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DL
Would male DNA produce nipples on men?
If so, why?
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DL
Proving that A E were set up as they would have to eat of the tree of knowledge to know that fire applied to a hand is evil.
Queen - 'Another One Bites the Dust' - YouTube
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DL
Finally found it......Ron called him Dennis....but he came with several names......
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/fun-jokes/91231-death-ath-ism-scientific-proof.html
Not much different now....same style...just seems to have polished it up a bit....
LMFAO... The Wolf!
Finally found it......Ron called him Dennis....but he came with several names......
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/fun-jokes/91231-death-ath-ism-scientific-proof.html
Not much different now....same style...just seems to have polished it up a bit....
Great work Watson!
If Satan attempted to destroy mankind before the flood by killing all the 5 fingered people then God would appear to be obligated to let things like that happen until the last moment and then He is allowed to 'change the game'. The flood was the solution to that. Satan would want to try and prevent either bruise from Ge:3:15 from happening, killing Jesus or preventing the cross would be the only way to do that. Peter made a small attempt and Jesus called him Satan because it was an act that would prevent the cross from manifesting.
The ones in Matthew 23 was who Jesus was mention when He said to tell nobody about the vision with Moses and Elias and an 'older Jesus' until after the cross so some determinations were made in the OT that could not be altered. However the death of Stephen was an abomination mentioned as part of the 70 weeks prophecy. He was not the first to die, some OT Prophets were also killed because they were sent by God, the attempt to do the same to Jeremiah was the straw that broke and brought out the 'option' that was the same in nature as the flood of water was the option to use if mankind was in danger of extermination by fallen angels.
To make sure the Prophets could write what would become the Bible they were exiled from the land and Daniel was close to being the last one sent by God and he has a lot of useful information about the conclusions to those two bruises.
That same corrupted group survived the exile to Babylon and were around for a few events after the cross that had to do with persecution of the church, is in who the writer of Matthew was one of. The ones not converted are referred to as being blind are going to be the harlot in Re:17 (meed some explaining but widow in the Bible can only mean a people rejected by God and that is the ones in De:4:30 that are scattered into the nations. The few in numbers part is not a reference to 70AD it is a reference to the 144,000 as being the only members of the 12 Tribes to see the events associated with the return. That is when they are 'few ' which means Eze:39 is how the others are literally called out of the grave that Job:14 covers. Everybody going back to Abraham's sons will be just as alive as Jesus was on the morning of His resurrection. Instead of ascending to God to be glorified they will (in the next few days) make their way to the river that will exist and is described in Eze:47. Once that is done the 7 year peace treaty starting with the cleanup in Eze:39, also in that same chapter is the term 'all killed by the sword' and that is a specific reference to 'blind Jews' who will take on the role of the harlot and Satan's Babylon will be Jerusalem in the 4 days the two witnesses lay dead. The harlot in Re:17 belongs to Satan, the king's daughter in Da:11 is the same reference, the other fallen angel that is a king in revelation is the other main king in Da:11. The two witnesses are the Moses and Aaron of the 'latter days' and they protect Jerusalem from having a throne on holy ground before time of the return is just 4 days away (last verse in Da:11)
Da:11:32:
And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries:
but the people that do know their God shall be strong,
and do exploits.
On the morning those 2 are raised the wrath of Re:16 unfolds in a few hours and in the few hours (literally) after that anybody from the 12 Tribes needing resurrection is resurrected and that is for the list in Re:20:4, the whole house of Israel would be part of the one beheaded for the word of God because that determination was a prophecy before it became a fact. They act is host for the remnant of the Gentiles (Church) as mentioned in Zec:14 and that happens 1,000 time before this earth ends, when New Jerusalem is opened up the whole group that took part in that will reside inside New Jerusalem on a new earth and the ones not alive like they were for the 1,000 years will come alive an make their home outside the city and they will come for the same yearly feast the others are already familiar with. It need the passages included before you can really appreciated how descriptive the original really is.
Here is something that I'm still tossing back and forth, The story of the rich man and the beggar Lazarus could be likened to the dragon' s harlot and Apostle like Jews, both are destined for the grave before a common resurrection date which is when hell is opened for the Gentiles that are there for the time until the GWT.. Since Jesus is said to have the keys to death and hell back in Re:1 does that mean the ones that are the harlot could be sent to the place the rich man was in instead of going to sleep as would happen to any Jew that would die before the trumps began yo sound? I'm thinking that they would be sent to the same place Jonah was sent to because he was awake after death
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Thanks for this.
On this we agree.
Analysis can become quite deep and I like to KIS as myths can have many interpretations and Christianity's is as you say, complete nonsense and to me, one of the worst.
Eden is a myth of a rite of passage from childhood to adulthood.
Lest we forget, God told A & E to reproduce in genesis 1 yet they did not till after the expulsion from Eden in Genesis 3.
Desire and the knowledge of the goods and evils of reproduction were not known beforehand.
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DL
@DL. Just quickly because you go on enough forums to know the parable of Adam and Eve is an allegory. The snake represents the thoughts that come into our mind, yes we do need to be fully informed of the dangers of our actions and seeing as Adam and Eve knew and walked and talked with God, I believe in the same way as today's Christians walk and talk with God, yes they will have been fully informed of the consequences of their disobedience the same as we are in trouble if we break the secular law of the land. Now will you please start and use you common sense and try to understand that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, and if you mess up there will be consequences. Not believing in God does not let you off the hook because suffering the consequences of our actions seems to be a natural law that cannot be escaped and you are old enough to be fully informed, you have lost the innocence of infants that Adam and Eve had and consequently you have eaten of the tree of knowledge. Good luck with the consequences.
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Sure do but I have no use for them and that is why I am asking the question.
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DL
Yes. Eden is a myth that Christians have used in the literal way to denigrate and discriminate against women and gays from day one without just cause.
If God is walking and talking to all those Christians, one would wonder why he has not corrected them?
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DL
The law of Karma is indifferent. There is no reward or punishment involved. Suffering is just non-acceptance of the responses to our actions. If someone takes responsibility for themselves, they only see lessons to be learned. Part of this is covered by the law "Judge not lest ye shall be judged." We are always judging ourselves and others instead of seeing the lesson to be learned. Judging is a bi-product of the fear based paradigm presently having a stranglehold on society. It is time to throw off the shackles of this paradigm in favour of one more based on love and acceptance.
@Cliffy. I don't know where my reply went but just to say that rather than Karma I was thinking about the equal and opposite reaction people give to our actions.
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@DL "Yes. Eden is a myth that Christians have used in the literal way to denigrate and discriminate against women and gays from day one without just cause. If God is walking and talking to all those Christians, one would wonder why he has not corrected them?
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DL
Best not to judge then DL!
What?!?! I'm a Christian and I do not discriminate against either.
To me... it looks like Ian is schooling you so you have to bring out the stereotypes.
Looks like YOU need a Theology lesson instead of spreading your message of hate.
What part of the book of Jude led you to that conclusion? It took 10,000 Angels to get the 'parked' task accomplished. Revelation says the last 3 1/2 years will see a return of these same beings, in person'. Peter says basically the same, is he in error also? He calls them brute beasts and they were not given the qualities that allows for a rule that has good results every time, losing you spot in heaven as the first step in 'helping' would seem to have proved that. A saying goes, 'Every great man has made mistakes, continually making mistakes is not a sign that you will become great.'
Jude:1:6:
And the angels which kept not their first estate,
but left their own habitation,
he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jude:1:10:
But these speak evil of those things which they know not:
but what they know naturally,
as brute beasts,
in those things they corrupt themselves.
Jude:1:16:
These are murmurers,
complainers,
walking after their own lusts;
and their mouth speaketh great swelling words,
having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
The serpent in the garden is the example of being believed and until the flood happened they were the kings of the earth and there are enough references to show that they are supernatural as far as we are concerned but they are as weak as we are when it comes to God's ability to move physical things around, but never without saying what will happen first. The Bible start out with, ... God said, ..... an it was so. A two step operation that has a start and an end, literally. The Bible is full of examples and one of the first is the two bruises verse in Ge:3:15. The way it actually works out that all the people given names an places are a record of how they and the ones in the 4 Gospels and until Acts 10 is a complete story of how the bruise to the heel was 'said' and then 'done'. That also means having the ability to let the verses tell the story before they 'get modified to the correct version'. The mythology version was at least started by the end of the exile into Babylon. For myself going with anything other than a flat-out literal version is a sure road to an improper understanding, some 40 Scribes but the prophecies they wrote about came from one single mind so all are needed before any can be properly understood. Nor does it take long. Da:7 comes with a vision and an explanation. Are you going to try and promote the explanation is a vision rather than a reference to literal 'things'? The same can be said for the same thing but in Re:17 with the dragon and the harlot. The iron in Da:7 and the dragon the very same being rather than two different ones, selective viewing that comes from seeing the same event from a slightly different perspective. For the references in the OT for 'day of the lord' you are looking at slightly more than 20. Same event but from the view of the 20 different groups that will be there to see the events become real. Know that really big block of stone in Lebanon, think of 10 being an armful. We would measure each one as being 50 million horses just so they cannot be anything but supernatural, in prophecy and against out best armies it will be total surrender within 1 literal hour. God puts that sort of detail in to stop readers from being deceived. Much of the world that have heard of God do not know a deception comes before the gathering. The best part of that is it shows that only somebody who knew all the details to the end of Re:22 could give a verse like Ge:3:15 and have all the words in a big book cover the details of just those two events, with the exception of just the last 3 chapters that when read with just the first 3 chapters is the pamphlet version of the Bible. Men could never foresee that sort of little detail, or not so little if you are looking for proof of God.
You probably don't have much use for an appendix either - sorta like the blanking cover when you have no use for a radio in your car.
Is that supposed to men we are following to book to the letter or we haven't got a clue about what we should be doing? I'm going to do with the book is more accurate than any current opinion. That is faith based as far as believing the OT was written down in perfect condition just before the 70 year exile was over. That is the time the book of Daniel would have been unfolding in real terms and he was sent angels and he had 3 friends that could probably also write making it and what Moses said was back to being letter perfect because prophecies as in De:4:30 have to mesh seamlessly with what will be said in the last few pages of the whole document. ie is the period of time the ones under punishment in Isa:65 is not given in the OT but the 1,000 years given Revelation does fit so when reading that you can safely add that after the 1,000 is over their tears are the ones being dried up and as such they are the ones mentioned in the later verses of that chapter.
Actually you have it in error. Adam and Eve are the mirror image of God and the Holy Spirit, male and female but because of the husband and wife relationship they are one flesh. Adam talked with Christ at the times he saw a face, a voice alone would have been God. Ge:1 is His witness to creation, Ge:2 is the witness of the Holy Spirit and Proverbs 8 is the witness of Christ, their only begotten son.
The mythology of the OT comes with ditching the NT as a valid source of information. The Gospel of John has quotes from John the Baptist, the last OT Prophet to be called by God and it is his disciple that saw and wrote the Gospel attributed to John. That would make the whole book as valuable as Daniel or any other book by a prophet sent from God. That would certainly put some closure to the 70 week thing. The other 3 are written by Apostles called by Jesus so there is a difference, however since the writer of the Gospel of John also wrote the book of Revelation and that book is the 'knowledge shall be increased' that Daniel mentions is also at the hand of a disciple of John the Baptist making those words as valuable as if John himself wrote them down.
There are numerous examples using just those two additional books and the other 3 are just as accurate as far as fitting right in with no effort of thought. (all the references do need to be considered before a conclusion is accurate)
As for Ge:1 I like the old earth creation thing where Ge:1 has the end of day 1 as being 4BYA and the end of day 7 as being 4,000BC with 6 steps in between. The end of day 6 saw creation done in full and the whole earth was full of life except for the area defined in Ge:2 and that area was the only desert and when Adam was born at the beginning of day 6 and that is when moisture came to that area and in Adam's day his eyes saw how regeneration takes place. Eve was created at the very end of day 6 and she never met God, Adam gave her the law about not eating but he also added the 'do not touch' part.. I'm sure that those that promote it being a myth alone has a good explanation for that detail being there.
Which of the 7 churches are you in?
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Each has their pluses an minuses, hanging around some would seem to limit your options down the road. The dividing line is sharing food, That's a long way from being drummed out of society.
1Co:5:11:
But now I have written unto you not to keep company,
if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator,
or covetous,
or an idolater,
or a railer,
or a drunkard,
or an extortioner;
with such an one no not to eat.
Apparently sin can be an observer sport as well as interactive.
1Co:5:11:
But now I have written unto you not to keep company,
if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator,
or covetous,
or an idolater,
or a railer,
or a drunkard,
or an extortioner;
with such an one no not to eat.
Apparently sin can be an observer sport as well as interactive.
Hot and cold, that was some years back. I can see how reading about the child of light might help a person get into a select group when those days roll around. If Yellowstone blew and the blast radius was 800k would not be entirely sure if heading toward the cloud would be better or worse than trying to run away. You can run away from a sniper, in the end it just means you die tired,
Did you know you cannot not be in one of those churches?
They were set up? As the story goes they were told not to.
As a parent would tell a child... don't touch the stove. When they do they get burned. Simple logic.
Bite on that dust.
What does it matter to you?
Say whaaaaat?