'cannot not be' means 'you are' also part of one of them, if you die at least you get a reason other than because Adam did. It doesn't matter, just checking to make sure yo know you are a member of one of them.
God’s law versus secular law. Which is moral?
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Lets debate argue get into a fight. The biosphere does not exist without the sun, the biosphere is not its own source, in other words we do not exist in a closed system. I agree about the whales, recent work records dolphins self recognition in mirrors.
Leaky got lucky in the rift, there are human remains scattered all over the globe. we've been here and there for a very long time.
The temperature gives the lie to burning gas, it's ionized, therefore plasma. therefore electrically conductive.
Thankyou for the discussion, please continue.
Proof of God is easy. We think therefore we are god.
It is of course very tedious to address your offering point by point. I will offer a couple of brief selection contrasting your superstitious material with real theology far closer to the origins of Christianity and universal religion itself.
And how does the Serpent of Life tempt man to incarnate? Through the proffered gift of the juice of the fruit of the Tree of Life and Knowledge held in the hand of the Woman. Here again is a symbolic rock over which theology has stumbled most outrageously and been tossed into next to loutish stupidity. And all because it was not known that Jehovah, as feminine, represented the natural forces into which the soul is represented as being lured, as a bit of poetic imagery. Now for the first time it becomes clear why these Jehovah powers, non-sentient, non-intelligent, purely material energies, balk at forming man as a spiritual being, and refuse to sanction his drinking of the juice of the fruit of the forbidden Tree which the Woman, physical life, holds out to lure him. The reason is obvious and clear. They could not! They could not endow man with the intellectual faculties or capacities which they themselves did not possess! Their recalcitrancy in undertaking to frame spiritual man is unmistakably shown by their statement of disincliNew Lectures on the Ancient Wisdom--No 7.
All scripture was written to prevent those students who could not penetrate the allegory and real meaning of myth from enlightenment and to protect the ancient science from defilement by swine who could only trample the pearls underfoot. At the surface of scripture there is the incredable fantasy only applied esoteric meaning reveals the hidden sweet meats of ancient science and philosophy. Everyone of the early christian church fathers knew this and published it. The veil between the literal reading and the esoteric was a very clever safety device that preserved the wisdom in the hands of the truly enlightened.
The Lost Key to the Scriptures At least read that essay and you'll see what I'm on about. You're smart you should be able to figure it out.
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You know most of the stories, would fresh water fish in the Dead Sea be something you would take as proof that God is a literal being? Just as Eze:47 promotes.
Explain the mythical meaning of salt remaining in the marshes, Using a tide program how much higher would the water have to be raised before fresh water fish could live there and if they could would that level create a river to the Med Sea. Wouldn't that be wierd?? The flow rate of the river that fills it can be CSI'd.
A large horse and man combined have about 50ytrs of blood, how wide is the river when length is known and depth to bridle is 4 or 5 ft, what width would it be and if it starts at Jerusalem how far could it reach?
Enoch gives 2 miles tall as being the height of the angels that are intergalactic beings, if 4 bound together make 200M horses and something that would cover that combined area (8 sq mi) would that be enough space and power to travel between galaxies? How about 2 mi and 50M horses for travel between stars. Could NASA build a terra former with a cargo hold that big? How long to the nearest start using the 50M and the 200M numbers?
Explain the mythical meaning of salt remaining in the marshes, Using a tide program how much higher would the water have to be raised before fresh water fish could live there and if they could would that level create a river to the Med Sea. Wouldn't that be wierd?? The flow rate of the river that fills it can be CSI'd.
A large horse and man combined have about 50ytrs of blood, how wide is the river when length is known and depth to bridle is 4 or 5 ft, what width would it be and if it starts at Jerusalem how far could it reach?
Enoch gives 2 miles tall as being the height of the angels that are intergalactic beings, if 4 bound together make 200M horses and something that would cover that combined area (8 sq mi) would that be enough space and power to travel between galaxies? How about 2 mi and 50M horses for travel between stars. Could NASA build a terra former with a cargo hold that big? How long to the nearest start using the 50M and the 200M numbers?
That would serve the religious forces of evil well as they judge women and gays inferior and subject them to unjust discrimination.
Thanks for showing your morals in wanting that to go on.
For evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing.
You are asking that we do nothing.
Which of these following quotes would you endorce in terms of judging?
“Faith must trample under footall reason, sense, and understanding.”
“Reason is a *****, thegreatest enemy that faith has.”
Martin Luther
Galileo -- "I do notfeel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense,reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."
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DL
Looks like you do not know Christian theology.
Want to see some hate?
Women Part 1 - YouTube
Women Part 2 - YouTube
Recant or be seen as a fool.
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DL
Who would be this God of which you speak ?? Sounds like my old grade 2 teacher. Nasty old bitch.
All gods are "supernatural", or a better term would be "surreal" as they are made in the human image. People have been inventing gods from day 1 and initially it's a result of not being able to explain what is not understood. Science has been taking apart these gods and the "unexplainable" and disspelling the myths of them.
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It means that if you are not using the Jewish interpretation of their own book then you are reading it foolishly.
Lewis Black - The Old Testament - YouTube
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DL
Nope, I don't. Everything we do, say, think, etc. is as a result of our DNA and the electrochemistry in our brains and has been ever since our brains perceived our very first experiences.
That does not disprove what I said. The Uncertainty Principle simply states that we influence what we observe.
We can only react one way to any circumstance. People can imagine they have choices in things but in the end they choose the only way they can choose. People can only do something because their brain tells them to.
Common Interpretation of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle Is Proved False: Scientific American
Go right ahead.
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Perhaps but then that parent does not do as God did and lock away what would keep them alive and in fact murder his children by neglect.
All because his children chose not to be as bright as bricks.
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DL
The God shown in scriptures is the one I was thinking of but I am willing to discuss any of the many versions of God.
After all, the bible has produced many Gods as interpreted by the myriad of sects that it has spawned from Universalist Gods to tyrannical ones who will only have a few of us worthy of his presence. Even as he loves us all. A joke that some believe.
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Let me set the logic trail.
We can only give up what we have.
If I have an apple and am asked to give it up I can.
If I do not have an apple and am asked to give it up, I cannot.
If you have free will, you can give it up to someone else.
If you do not have free will then you cannot.
Your free will would normally let you begin your respond in whatever way you want to this post.
When you respond to this post, please give up your free will to begin as you like, to my will and begin it with the letter Y.
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Living outside the narrow definition that marriage defines, meaning expenses associated with the marriage and the divorce, is a greater hardship than 'living in an unpunished sinful life' where the state allows shared expenses and ownership anyway. The Gospel of John paints a wedding as being a week long drunk (for the men) and 'gossip time' for the women and 'meet your future partner' for the kids. It was Rome making people get up an travel in the middle of winter rather than God. Is that some sort of self-preservation tactic non-believres put up?
That's a nice summation. The Bible is sometimes long winded, how would you sum this up?
"if the dead rise not?
let us eat and drink;
for to morrow we die."
Later,
I can respond to your post they only way I can. There is no free will to give away. I did not choose to reply to your post. I replied because it is my nature.
They ignore the part where they have to explain all the really old places and how they were built when we were supposed to be less capable back then than we are now. If we can't do it how would somebody walking around in 4,000 BC be able to do it? What would he 'say' if he just found them as deserted places?
That isn't proof of the Bible but to debunk the Bible you have to have an argument to debunk, modify the story based on the actual words and that is what should be the base. The exodus has places named that can be found on a bible atlas.today. Moses and Co booked it south off-road from the named place but he camped beside the first body of water and that is the water that God parted by sending a strong wind from the east and that is what parted the waters. In the maps of those named places is a large lake with a narrow spot, a wind from the east would blow the water back so the wet sandy bottom was exposed and when the wind stopped the water that had been pushed into the larger part of the lake came rushing back in and good-bye soldiers.
Did Moses think this up while out for a stroll?
You must remember what she taught you, was it right or was it 'by the book'? (you can leave out the finer details of how the many detentions went)
I love his vids, lol He pointed out that the Christians that worship Jesus (rather than a one true God) are actually worshiping a Jew. I can go along with that, does it come with tax and banking rights would be something a Christian would have to disclose. Probably wouldn't go over all that well.
As for them having above average insight into what the OT means I give them credit for a large undertaking. Where are the updates that allow for the whole NT to be properly meshed, at the very John the Baptist was and OT Prophet sent by God, the old understanding doesn;t take into consideration the two books his disciple wrote.. Big news flash, if the OT was a fable the the cross was a fable and possession of the land cannot be transferred into reality for some specific people that have always been mart of the real world. I can understand the desire to try and blend into a proven world. If the OT was a myth it is time to park the book and all that goes along with that, I don't see that proposal being on the table, ****, the change in diet that came with the scattering in De:4:30 hasn't even been accepted, kosher only food' was modified by Peter. If they miss that small gift from God as making their time in the nations more pleasant by making Gentile food clean. Acts 10 is the vision, the words bolded say they serve a 'strange God', what the Apostles taught would have fit perfectly into that prophecy, yet even to day that connection cannot be allowed to be updated.
De:4:28:
And there ye shall serve gods,
the work of men's hands,
wood and stone,
which neither see,
nor hear,
nor eat,
nor smell.
Ac:10:15:
And the voice spake unto him again the second time,
What God hath cleansed,
that call not thou common.
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DB The place names in the Bible were many times taken from celestial maps designed to instruct in theology, so rather than actual historical geography as source for the names used in the scriptures the theological names were assigned to earth geographical locations long after the scriptures were written.DB
Christian manhandling of the Scriptural texts, in the eleventh chapter of Revelation. If, as five or six Church Councils have decreed in utmost solemnity, every word of the Bible is God's infallible truth, then at least one verse of the Holy Book negates the whole story of the four Gospels, taken historically. The apocalyptic writer (who, say many discerning scholars, could not have been the disciple John!) is speaking of the "two witnesses," previously called "the two olive trees," but taken by theology to be two hierarchical powers; and in the preceding verse he says that the "dragon" shall rise up and slay them. Then in verse eight he makes the statement that puts all historical Christianity on the stand for searching cross examination: "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the city which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." Only the flash of light dimmed for eighteen centuries and reillumined as Massey's "Egypt" was being perused, provided a dialectical basis for the salvation of Christianity in its proper essence and message from the devastating implications of that remarkable eighth verse. What! The Lord Christ not crucified in Jerusa-
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If I offered you a shove right now what do you think it would be for?
1) help you dig the hole you are in a little faster
2)help you fill in the hole you are digging
3) change what the shovel is moving
May free will rule the day over preconceived illusions.
Not once have we discussed nor even mentioned the first and only law contemplated by the ancients and that is Natural Law sir. Neither Gods nor mans laws can ever eclipse the laws of physics. That was the original power and subject being explored charted and explained by the old mystery schools, the origin of all religion is the study of physics. Natural law rules all.