Israel- Hamas Ceasefire

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Bazinga!!!

You'd actually have to back that up with some fact for it to be true.

You can't, and here's the kicker, I can.
As a welder with some 12 certificates or whatever you should have a working knowledge of how steel works. You previously supported that the towers collapsed due to sagging floor joist that were connected to the inner and outer columns by 2 bolts (and a bit of weld) was strong enough to pull both in to such an extent that they created the total collapse.

There I did, now you put up or shut up.

Colpy is no different, even in this thread he is still promoting that Saddam was massing troops on the Saudi border when photo's show nothing of the sort yet he will never update that so really that pretty much makes him a liar also.
 

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He is checking on the civility level- I do hope that the Forum comes up with rules on Members that purposely Troll thru threads that can be as shall we say emotional as this.
Hard to have a civil discussion when trolls run rampant. Hard to discuss when some people run for the low ground.

The ignore feature works really well for that.

When will Israil and EAO sit down and talk peace, he gets bombed everyday with weapons grade BS.

and then copies and pastes it here.
 

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I see stuff like this, I do NOT understand why Israel let them off the hook.
I guess England can expect an invasion for them exiling the Jewish bankers for 350 years, oh wait that deception about Neapolitan winning netted them all of England's business at a penny a pound, including the Bank of England.
 

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So who's complaining? Post away! I read Ma'an all the time. As well as Al Quds Al Arabi. Can't stand MSNBC though. :) I call them on their facts when they're wrong, I use them as a reference when they're right. Doesn't mean they're not biased.
I still remember when I started reading Al Jazeera. Biased? Sometimes. But still a news source worth reading.

As a welder with some 12 certificates or whatever you should have a working knowledge of how steel works.
I do. Consequently far more than you.

You previously supported that the towers collapsed due to sagging floor joist that were connected to the inner and outer columns by 2 bolts (and a bit of weld) was strong enough to pull both in to such an extent that they created the total collapse.
Wrong thread. Maybe you should stick to the religious nonsense, this topic seems to difficult for you to follow along with.

There I did, now you put up or shut up.
There what? You didn't prove anything. I've already proven that EAO was dishonest about his claims that UN Watch was deceptive about their affiliations.

Please try and keep up.

I guess England can expect an invasion for them exiling the Jewish bankers for 350 years, oh wait that deception about Neapolitan winning netted them all of England's business at a penny a pound, including the Bank of England.
Neapolitan!



It met its Waterloo.
 
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I do. Consequently far more than you.

Wrong thread. Maybe you should stick to the religious nonsense, this topic seems to difficult for you to follow along with.


Neapolitan!
oops my bad ..Napoleon sorry to throw you off so much you missed the point.

I pity anyone having to depend on your welding skills if you actually believe it happened that way.and it was you that brought up the rule about liars should be banned

For the amount of the world that does follow religion to some extent you seem to be trying to elevate yourself higher than most of the worlds people. Goes to show how unsound your mind really is. You can't understand the things written about God so it must be wrong, lol
 

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As a welder with some 12 certificates or whatever you should have a working knowledge of how steel works. You previously supported that the towers collapsed due to sagging floor joist that were connected to the inner and outer columns by 2 bolts (and a bit of weld) was strong enough to pull both in to such an extent that they created the total collapse.

There I did, now you put up or shut up.

Colpy is no different, even in this thread he is still promoting that Saddam was massing troops on the Saudi border when photo's show nothing of the sort yet he will never update that so really that pretty much makes him a liar also.

Ahhh....that is Nassar massing troops on the Israeli border in 1967.

Unless you are talking about the First Gulf war, in which Iraqi troops actually crossed into Saudi Arabia in probes, and fired missiles at them.

Which leaves one question:

Exactly WHAT planet are you living on???

neapolitan!



it met its waterloo.

rotflmao>
 

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oops my bad ..Napoleon sorry to throw you off so much you missed the point.
Ummm, although I'm sure it went well over your head, "It met its waterloo" would indicate I didn't miss anything.

I pity anyone having to depend on your welding skills if you actually believe it happened that way.and it was you that brought up the rule about liars should be banned
1, Your opinion lacks any credibility on any planet.

2, No I didn't.

3, Stop lying.

For the amount of the world that does follow religion to some extent you seem to be trying to elevate yourself higher than most of the worlds people. Goes to show how unsound your mind really is. You can't understand the things written about God so it must be wrong, lol
See #3 one more time.

Exactly WHAT planet are you living on???
That's a trick question right?

Cuz everyone already knows it the one controlled by lizards.

rotflmao>
As our resident history major, I knew you would like that one.
 

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Ahhh....that is Nassar massing troops on the Israeli border in 1967.

Unless you are talking about the First Gulf war, in which Iraqi troops actually crossed into Saudi Arabia in probes, and fired missiles at them.

Which leaves one question:

Exactly WHAT planet are you living on???
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Do you always post without checking your facts? (fro the other Gaza thread)

"Yeah...because American troops were in Saudi Arabia, which they had defended from a secular meglomaniacal lunatic from Iraq.

That's what I call gratitude, Muslim style."

I already posted that photos show no such thing happened, so what is your reference??

1, Your opinion lacks any credibility on any planet.

2, No I didn't.

3, Stop lying.
Photos are not opinions
Another lie from you, wow.

"Hey, isn't that a forum rule?

Holy crap, it is, and it's rule #1...

1. Not to post any material that you know, or in our judgement ought to know, is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, threatening, invasive of personal privacy, or in violation of Canadian law; "

Cuz everyone already knows it the one controlled by lizards.
I spell badly and you can;t write sentences. You must be referencing David I.
 

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I already posted that photos show no such thing happened, so what is your reference??
WAR IN THE GULF - Combat - Invading Force Is Destroyed As Saudi Town Is Won Back - NYTimes.com

Photos are not opinions
We weren't talking about photos.

Please do try and keep up and follow along.

Another lie from you, wow.
Nope. You just can't follow along. I blame the poor education system in Canada.

"Hey, isn't that a forum rule?

Holy crap, it is, and it's rule #1...

1. Not to post any material that you know, or in our judgement ought to know, is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, threatening, invasive of personal privacy, or in violation of Canadian law; "
Again, please do try and keep up and follow along. That says nothing about banning anyone. Nor is it at all related to the conversation you brought up.

I spell badly...
That's been made painfully clear.
 

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The Iraqi Army lost between 60 and 300 dead, while an estimated 400 were captured as prisoners of war. ( from 29 January to 1 February 1991)

Not a very big force to send to control a pumping station . Why use something from the end of January in 1991 to support a claim made some 6 months before that? Just no end to your deceptive posts.

(in part)
Although the United States constantly accused Iraq and Saddam Hussein of lying and compared the Iraqi leader to Hitler, the Bush administration itself systematically disseminated Big Lies to promote its war policy. Suspicious claims by the administration began with reports that the Iraqis had positioned an offensive force on the Saudi Arabian border, poised to invade that country. On August 3, for instance, Forrest Sawyer reported on ABC's Nightline that: "tens of thousands of Iraqi troops are reportedly massed along the Saudi Arabian border, and there is still fear that Saddam Hussein will carry his blitzkrieg across Saudi territory. It would not be much of a fight. Iraq's million-man battle-seasoned army against the nearly 66,000 Saudi troops, 5,500 Iraqi tanks, 10 times as many as Saudi Arabia."
 

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Why use something from the end of January in 1991 to support a claim made some 6 months before that?
To show that Iraq was sniffing around the border.

Just no end to your deceptive posts.
It wasn't deceptive, it's called evidence.

Kind of like the subjective and never verified or scrutinized photo from a commercial Russian satellite.

But anyways, that isn't what the topic of the thread...

Back on topic.

Gaza Border Blockade Eased After Israel-Hamas Ceasefire

Gaza Border Blockade Eased After Israel-Hamas Ceasefire
 

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To show that Iraq was sniffing around the border.

It wasn't deceptive, it's called evidence.

Kind of like the subjective and never verified or scrutinized photo from a commercial Russian satellite.

But anyways, that isn't what the topic of the thread...

Back on topic.

Gaza Border Blockade Eased After Israel-Hamas Ceasefire

Gaza Border Blockade Eased After Israel-Hamas Ceasefire
You started tossing the liar word around, you were either doing that or you don't have a clue on how to research anything at all, but you are right that isn't the topic of the thread.

Hamas Deploy Police on Israel Border to Prevent Incidents

"Police were deployed Friday night east of Khan Yunis in the southern Gaza Strip, in order to protect the lives of citizens, victims of Israeli aggression," he added.
Shahwan was referring to Israeli soldiers opening fire on residents of Khouzaa, near Khan Yunis, who approached the border. One person was killed and 19 wounded.
Hamas denounced the event as "the first Israeli violation of the truce," which was agreed on Wednesday and ended eight days in which 166 Palestinians and six Israelis were killed, saying they would raise the matter with the Egyptian mediators.
Following the Friday death, unarmed Hamas police were deployed in the area to prevent access in coordination with Egypt, without the risk of being fired at by Israel.
 

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20 Parallels of Zionism with Nazism

1) both based on supposed purity of blood.

2) both based on supposedly reuniting some religioethnic diaspora under one expansive state.

3) both attempting to revive some supposedly “glorious ancient kingdom” — a “glorious ancient Teutonic kingdom” for the NAZIs; a “glorious ancient Judaic kingdom” for the Nationalist Zionists.

4) both established a state that was culturally, legally, economically and religiously based to exclusively benefit one ethnic/racial group.

5) both based on violent racist exclusion and a highly intricate complex of racial exclusion laws (like Israel’s racial ‘Nuremberg laws’).

6) both based on creating a founding mythology — like, for Zionist Jews, “a land without a people”

7) both invented their own race: Aryans, by the NAZIs; Jews, constructed as a unique/genetic race, by the Nationalist Zionists.

8 ) both based on eliminating some other unwanted and supposedly inferior races — ethnic cleansing — and, in the case of Zionism, removing those unwanted people who supposedly didn’t exist.

9) both engaged in collective punishment and widespread torture (even inventing new sadistic torture methods),

10) both engaged in the mass imprisonment — without trials — of unwanted populations/races.

11) both enclosed unwanted races in walled-in ghettos and concentration camps — only the Nationalist Zionists made the walls many times higher and the concentration camps many times larger (like Gaza, in effect the world’s largest open-air prison/concentration camp).

12) both tried out new weapons on civilian populations (and Israel has engaged in the internationally illegal use of anti-personal weapons of mass destruction, like the widespread use of cluster bombs, on civilian populations).

13) both sought to erase existing countries — like the Nazis wanting to wipe Poland off the map and parts of other countries; the Nationialist Zionists wanting to wipe Palestine off the map and parts of other countries.

14) both used pseudo-archeology to claim that it had exclusive right to the land.

15) the Nazis obsessed about “too many Jews” in Germany; Nationalist Zionists/Israel obsesses about “too many Palestinians” and the re-emergence of a Palestinian majority in historic Palestine (once an overhwhelmingly Arab land).

16) both were violently and militarily expansionist.

17) both engaged in blitzkrieg fighter aircraft and tank warfare against civilian populations and civilian targets.

18 ) Nationalist Zionist Israeli Jews even studied the original NAZI methods for urban warfare and clearing Palestinians out of their ghettos. Exclaimed one Israeli commander, “Let’s be Judeo-Nazis!” (Reference: www.seruv.org.il — the website for Israeli Refuniks in the “Occupied Territories”; see “Letter to American Jews”; “The Nazification of Israel” — both online.)

19) both claimed to be based on “God’s will”.

20) and, finally (for Israel’s ‘final solution’), most recently (Feb 29, 2008 ), Israeli deputy defence minister threatens a “Holocaust” for the Palestinians.

http://sheffield.indymedia.org.uk/2009/01/418616.html
 

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20 Parallels of Zionism with Nazism

1) both based on supposed purity of blood.

2) both based on supposedly reuniting some religioethnic diaspora under one expansive state.

3) both attempting to revive some supposedly “glorious ancient kingdom” — a “glorious ancient Teutonic kingdom” for the NAZIs; a “glorious ancient Judaic kingdom” for the Nationalist Zionists.

4) both established a state that was culturally, legally, economically and religiously based to exclusively benefit one ethnic/racial group.

5) both based on violent racist exclusion and a highly intricate complex of racial exclusion laws (like Israel’s racial ‘Nuremberg laws’).

6) both based on creating a founding mythology — like, for Zionist Jews, “a land without a people”

7) both invented their own race: Aryans, by the NAZIs; Jews, constructed as a unique/genetic race, by the Nationalist Zionists.

8 ) both based on eliminating some other unwanted and supposedly inferior races — ethnic cleansing — and, in the case of Zionism, removing those unwanted people who supposedly didn’t exist.

9) both engaged in collective punishment and widespread torture (even inventing new sadistic torture methods),

10) both engaged in the mass imprisonment — without trials — of unwanted populations/races.

11) both enclosed unwanted races in walled-in ghettos and concentration camps — only the Nationalist Zionists made the walls many times higher and the concentration camps many times larger (like Gaza, in effect the world’s largest open-air prison/concentration camp).

12) both tried out new weapons on civilian populations (and Israel has engaged in the internationally illegal use of anti-personal weapons of mass destruction, like the widespread use of cluster bombs, on civilian populations).

13) both sought to erase existing countries — like the Nazis wanting to wipe Poland off the map and parts of other countries; the Nationialist Zionists wanting to wipe Palestine off the map and parts of other countries.

14) both used pseudo-archeology to claim that it had exclusive right to the land.

15) the Nazis obsessed about “too many Jews” in Germany; Nationalist Zionists/Israel obsesses about “too many Palestinians” and the re-emergence of a Palestinian majority in historic Palestine (once an overhwhelmingly Arab land).

16) both were violently and militarily expansionist.

17) both engaged in blitzkrieg fighter aircraft and tank warfare against civilian populations and civilian targets.

18 ) Nationalist Zionist Israeli Jews even studied the original NAZI methods for urban warfare and clearing Palestinians out of their ghettos. Exclaimed one Israeli commander, “Let’s be Judeo-Nazis!” (Reference: www.seruv.org.il — the website for Israeli Refuniks in the “Occupied Territories”; see “Letter to American Jews”; “The Nazification of Israel” — both online.)

19) both claimed to be based on “God’s will”.

20) and, finally (for Israel’s ‘final solution’), most recently (Feb 29, 2008 ), Israeli deputy defence minister threatens a “Holocaust” for the Palestinians.

Sheffield | 20 Parallels of Zionism with Nazism
Some nice stretches in there.

Not that that matters when you're demonizing the Heebs.
 

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I'm always on the side of people who suffer oppression and injustice regardless of race or religion. In the 1930's I'd have been against the Nazi war criminals and on the side of the Jews, Roma, Slavs, Jehovah Witnesses.... Today I am against the Zionist war criminals and support legitimate aspirations of Palestinians for freedom and justice... The same things Jews and other groups lost under the Nazis.
 

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I'm always on the side of people who suffer oppression and injustice regardless of race or religion.
So you keep saying.

But as was so eloquently exampled on pages 3 and 4, you go to great lengths to divert attention away from facts you don't like.

That really does say a whole lot about your objectivity, honesty and ability to be rational on this subject.