I'll wait to see if you have that same opinion when you are standing on the shore of said lake.
Israel Welcomes Evangelical Support—but not an Evangelical Presence
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Isaiah 42:5-7.
2 Samuel 22:29 (#1 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
29 You are my lamp, O LORD; the LORD turns my darkness into light.
Nehemiah 9:11-13(#2 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
11 You divided the sea before them, so that they passed through it on dry ground, but you hurled their pursuers into the depths, like a stone into mighty waters. 12 By day you led them with a pillar of cloud, and by night with a pillar of fire to give them light on the way they were to take.
Job 33:28(#3 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
28 He redeemed my soul from going down to the pit, and I will live to enjoy the light.'
Psalm 4:6(#4 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
6 Many are asking, "Who can show us any good?" Let the light of your face shine upon us, O LORD.
Psalm 18:28 (#5 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
28 You, O LORD, keep my lamp burning; my God turns my darkness into light.
Psalm 36:9(#6 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
9 For with you is the fountain of life; in your light we see light.
Psalm 43:3(#7 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
3 Send forth your light and your truth, let them guide me; let them bring me to your holy mountain, to the place where you dwell.
Psalm 56:12-13(#8 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
12 I am under vows to you, O God; I will present my thank offerings to you. 13 For you have delivered me from death and my feet from stumbling, that I may walk before God in the light of life.
Psalm 89:15(#9 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
15 Blessed are those who have learned to acclaim you, who walk in the light of your presence, O LORD.
Psalm 97:11 (#10 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
11 Light is shed upon the righteous and joy on the upright in heart.
Psalm 104:1-3(#11 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
1 Praise the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, you are very great; you are clothed with splendor and majesty. 2 He wraps himself in light as with a garment; he stretches out the heavens like a tent 3 and lays the beams of his upper chambers on their waters. He makes the clouds his chariot and rides on the wings of the wind.
Psalm 119:105(#12 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
105 Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path.
Psalm 119:130(#13 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
130 The unfolding of your words gives light it gives understanding to the simple.
Isaiah 42:5-7(#14 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
5 This is what God the LORD says-he who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and all that comes out of it, who gives breath to its people, and life to those who walk on it: 6 "I, the LORD, have called you in righteousness; I will take hold of your hand. I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles, 7 to open eyes that are blind, to free captives from prison and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.
Isaiah 42:16 (#15 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
16 I will lead the blind by ways they have not known, along unfamiliar paths I will guide them; I will turn the darkness into light before them and make the rough places smooth. These are the things I will do; I will not forsake them.
Isaiah 50:10(#16 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
10 Who among you fears the LORD and obeys the word of his servant? Let him who walks in the dark, who has no light, trust in the name of the LORD and rely on his God.
Isaiah 60:19(#17 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
19 The sun will no more be your light by day, nor will the brightness of the moon shine on you, for the LORD will be your everlasting light, and your God will be your glory.
Micah 7:9(#18 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
9 Because I have sinned against him, I will bear the LORD's wrath, until he pleads my case and establishes my right. He will bring me out into the light; I will see his righteousness.
Matthew 5:13-16(#19 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
13 "You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men. 14 "You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.
Matthew 6:22 (#20 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
22 "The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light.
Luke 11:33-35(#21 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
33 "No one lights a lamp and puts it in a place where it will be hidden, or under a bowl. Instead he puts it on its stand, so that those who come in may see the light. 34 Your eye is the lamp of your body. When your eyes are good, your whole body also is full of light. But when they are bad, your body also is full of darkness. 35 See to it, then, that the light within you is not darkness.
John 1:3-5(#22 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
John 3:18-20(#23 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
John 9:5(#24 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world."
Romans 13:12 (#25 of 25 Bible Verses about Light)
12 The night is nearly over; the day is almost here. So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.
Impressive if the quest was to find a lot of verses about light. You looking for the 'old' kind of light like the sun shinning at the end of day 1 some 4BYA, or the light that enters your eyes after bouncing off something called 'words'. Proverbs 8 qualifies Christ as having 'wisdom' and that is given to us from Him in the form of words aka Holy Bible. The prophecies so far unfulfilled are all writen down and the 'words' have the information that will be a 'light' to some in their lives. The time the light is the strongest is in the (I am not kidding) 1335 days before the return. That is based on the 144,000 having to be sealed prior to any trump sounding and 1335 is the only number in Scripture that fits with the end times. Most take the 3 1/2 years and add some days to the end but all dangers are gone by the end of the 7 trumps so to be 'further blessed' would mean it would be before the 7th trump sounds. Things like that require reading and the effect it has is if the last events were to start to happen the 'children of light' would be able to do a check and pray and that should include them as being a repented person when the 7th trump does sound. That would mean they see the day of the Lord begin just as Re:10 describes and the names being read will be the names of the people that will be alive for the 1,000 years (and all that entails). The 'children of darkness' will be persons who are un-repented at the sound of the 7th trump and those that are part of any war machine will be sitting in Hell for the next 1,000 years, looking at their 'former boss'
and since there is a locked gate between the two the men (and women) are quite free to tell Satan what they now think of him and his plans. For Satan he gets to take it silently because his mouth was the first thing of his that the great chain bound up. Long story short they do not get let out when Satan does, instead they serve their whole term and at the GWT they are given pardons instead of being sent to the fiery lake. However the very first step for them is the pouring out of the 7 vials on them doesn't sound like a very pleasant way to spend a few hours. All of that just from reading and paying attention and the verse below will easily start something much longer than what I just summarized. If you have the attention span to make it through the selection of verses below it shows how various 'pieces' fit together to make one subject the only subject and the full deal would be about 5x that long, all of that slightly modifies what is indicated in the verses below but they are still all in perfect agreement with what I promote and what the verses say all by themselves.
1Th:5:2:
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1Th:5:3:
For when they shall say,
Peace and safety;
then sudden destruction cometh upon them,
as travail upon a woman with child;
and they shall not escape.
1Th:5:4:
But ye,
brethren,
are not in darkness,
that that day should overtake you as a thief.
1Th:5:5:
Ye are all the children of light,
and the children of the day:
we are not of the night,
nor of darkness.
Re:16:15:
Behold,
I come as a thief.
Blessed is he that watcheth,
and keepeth his garments,
lest he walk naked,
and they see his shame.
Re:10:6:
And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever,
who created heaven,
and the things that therein are,
and the earth,
and the things that therein are,
and the sea,
and the things which are therein,
that there should be time no longer:
Re:10:7:
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel,
when he shall begin to sound,
the mystery of God should be finished,
as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Da:11:45:
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain;
yet he shall come to his end,
and none shall help him.
Da:12:1:
And at that time shall Michael stand up,
the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
and there shall be a time of trouble,
such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time:
and at that time thy people shall be delivered,
every one that shall be found written in the book.
Da:12:2:
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
some to everlasting life,
and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Perhaps the Christians should be sending over verses of comfort that show that God still remembers them and just because His back is turned for a little while He will still keep His covenant promises starting when they are a whole house again, .... rather than 7 years worth of weapons every 6 months and 18 days.
The one that put out the vid "Waiting for Armageddon' fully supports this Israel down to wanting to invade Iraq and Iran on their behalf (a bit dated) but towards the end he said it himself that this gathering has to have an exile before the 'real gathering' can happen so their hands aren't without blood on them already.
and since there is a locked gate between the two the men (and women) are quite free to tell Satan what they now think of him and his plans. For Satan he gets to take it silently because his mouth was the first thing of his that the great chain bound up. Long story short they do not get let out when Satan does, instead they serve their whole term and at the GWT they are given pardons instead of being sent to the fiery lake. However the very first step for them is the pouring out of the 7 vials on them doesn't sound like a very pleasant way to spend a few hours. All of that just from reading and paying attention and the verse below will easily start something much longer than what I just summarized. If you have the attention span to make it through the selection of verses below it shows how various 'pieces' fit together to make one subject the only subject and the full deal would be about 5x that long, all of that slightly modifies what is indicated in the verses below but they are still all in perfect agreement with what I promote and what the verses say all by themselves.
1Th:5:2:
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1Th:5:3:
For when they shall say,
Peace and safety;
then sudden destruction cometh upon them,
as travail upon a woman with child;
and they shall not escape.
1Th:5:4:
But ye,
brethren,
are not in darkness,
that that day should overtake you as a thief.
1Th:5:5:
Ye are all the children of light,
and the children of the day:
we are not of the night,
nor of darkness.
Re:16:15:
Behold,
I come as a thief.
Blessed is he that watcheth,
and keepeth his garments,
lest he walk naked,
and they see his shame.
Re:10:6:
And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever,
who created heaven,
and the things that therein are,
and the earth,
and the things that therein are,
and the sea,
and the things which are therein,
that there should be time no longer:
Re:10:7:
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel,
when he shall begin to sound,
the mystery of God should be finished,
as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Da:11:45:
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain;
yet he shall come to his end,
and none shall help him.
Da:12:1:
And at that time shall Michael stand up,
the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
and there shall be a time of trouble,
such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time:
and at that time thy people shall be delivered,
every one that shall be found written in the book.
Da:12:2:
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
some to everlasting life,
and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Perhaps the Christians should be sending over verses of comfort that show that God still remembers them and just because His back is turned for a little while He will still keep His covenant promises starting when they are a whole house again, .... rather than 7 years worth of weapons every 6 months and 18 days.
The one that put out the vid "Waiting for Armageddon' fully supports this Israel down to wanting to invade Iraq and Iran on their behalf (a bit dated) but towards the end he said it himself that this gathering has to have an exile before the 'real gathering' can happen so their hands aren't without blood on them already.
Okay, rather than post the verses, go read Joel 2 : 1-11 and let me know what you think about the 'holy angels' that are tasked with searching out every person on the planet in just 3 1/2 hours after they start right at Jerusalem. They only pick up the bad one, the survivors get to walk to Jerusalem, that is so they can witness just how messed up Jesus made the place in getting rid of 2/3 of all the people. I, for one, would not want them hunting me down, real or imagined. lol
As I see it your problem was my problem when long ago I abandoned my second or third attempt to read the Holy Bible simply because it made no sense to me. And what you have written above makes little or no sense to me. A point to begin a polite discussion would be Armageddon which as I have lately been informed is the personal battle waged in each of us with the beast, the beast being the material body the spirit being the conscience mind. That is Armageddon and nothing else. The bible remains a closed book to readers without the keys to it's allegorical structure. Here go there and learn about christ http://m_euser.tripod.com/help.htm the material is very wonderful to read.
Light makes dark petros, bifurcation was the first act of god, without the dark the light means nothing,
I appreciate the link but your premise is wrong, the Beast was a king on earth before the flood, it took 10,000 Holy Angels to put him and the other fallen angels into the Pit.
De:33:2:
And he said,
The LORD came from Sinai,
and rose up from Seir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand went a fiery law for them.
Literal v/ allegorical v/ metaphorical... mostly myths borrowed from earlier cultures and having very little value to anybody but if it floats you boat... everybody needs a hobby.
Get a Red Letter Bible and a copy of Strong's Exhaustive Concordance. A red letter bible has everything Jesus said in red text. Strong's is a dictionary of Hebrew and Greek words used in the Bible in context and explains what the passage your reading means in context.
Strong's Exhaustive Bible Concordance Online
Technically, darkness is just the absence of light. Nothing evil about it except people using it in evil ways.
And I don't view most theists as extremists whether they proselytise or not. To me they are just fundies. They have their little worlds to live in and I have mine. Mine's just based upon realism and theirs is based upon wishes, hopes, and faiths.
Live and let live.
And I don't view most theists as extremists whether they proselytise or not. To me they are just fundies. They have their little worlds to live in and I have mine. Mine's just based upon realism and theirs is based upon wishes, hopes, and faiths.
Live and let live.
Realism? You know what it is; stuff you know exists like beer, whatever it is you get high on, potatoes, door handles, etc.Perhaps you could expound on this realism stuff Les.
Realism - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
My premise is wrong! Plato and Paul will be devastated. I can barely keep the tears from my eyes as I contemplate them breaking the news to the illuminated of antiquity.
Ah beer of course. I remember now once I was blind and thirsty.
We should rise up and keep to the high road remembering that no matter how rough their ideas may seem they deserve our best behavior if we are to save them like the real christians we is. I'm sure IBM will be back he has tough skin.
Reality is indeed a rough ride when being deprogrammed. Don't be surprised if he denies Chapter and Verse though.
Perhaps you should read parts of the book again.My premise is wrong! Plato and Paul will be devastated. I can barely keep the tears from my eyes as I contemplate them breaking the news to the illuminated of antiquity.
Re:21:4:
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
and there shall be no more death,
neither sorrow,
nor crying,
neither shall there be any more pain:
for the former things are passed away.
Notice they are only sending money, nobody is moving there that should be the 'big clue' that even false Christians don't believe God has anything to do with the Rothschild's Israel or is that 'is hell real'.
Zec:14:9:
And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD,
and his name one.
Zec:14:17:
And it shall be,
that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King,
the LORD of hosts,
even upon them shall be no rain.
Seems NYC was getting rain and they aren't invited to come to Israel let alone everybody from all the Nations in the world.