Israel seeks war on iran to keep lid on 9/11

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Iran is only going to end up destroying the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty with its stupid antics.

Correct - and every country in the ME will all want their own capability as a counter to Iran - Another cold war in a hot spot.
 

earth_as_one

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Iran is only going to end up destroying the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty with its stupid antics.
Do you have any proof that Iran has violated any mandatory parts of the NPT? Do you have any evidence that Iran has violated any of the voluntary additional NPT protocols that they signed?

The countries which threaten the NPT are those countries which have an NPT obligation to reduce and eliminate their nuclear arsenals and instead have continued to research and build new types of nuclear weapons.

US, Russia, China, UK, France

Also countries known to possess nukes and have not signed the NPT:

India, Israel, North Korea and Pakistan.
Calls for Olmert to resign after nuclear gaffe | World news | guardian.co.uk

Iran's nuclear program is by far the most closely monitored program in the world. The antics of Iran's adversaries which constantly accuse Iran of developing nukes without proof and punish Iran for its NPT compliant nuclear program threaten the NPT.

Perhaps you can give me a reason why Iran should continue complying with the NPT? So far their NPT compliance has led to embargoes and punishing sanctions... if they had not signed the NPT, they could have clandestinely developed nukes just like India, Israel, North Korea and Pakistan, who don't face any sanctions or embargoes...
 
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Goober

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Do you have any proof that Iran has violated any mandatory parts of the NPT? Do you have any evidence that Iran has violated any of the voluntary additional NPT protocols that they signed?

The countries which threaten the NPT are those countries which are required to reduce and eliminate their nuclear arsenals and instead have continued to research and build new types of nuclear weapons.

US, Russia, China, UK, France

Also countries known to possess nukes and have not signed the NPT:

India, Israel, North Korea and Pakistan.
Calls for Olmert to resign after nuclear gaffe | World news | guardian.co.uk

Iran's nuclear program is by far the most closely monitored program in the world. The antics of Iran's adversaries which constantly accuse Iran of developing nukes without proof and punish Iran for its NPT compliant nuclear program threaten the NPT.

Perhaps you can give me a reason why Iran should continue complying with the NPT? So far their NPT compliance has led to embargoes and punishing sanctions... if they had not signed the NPT, they could have clandestinely developed nukes just like India, Israel, North Korea and Pakistan, who don't face any sanctions or embargoes...

Well 2 counties of those 4 listed are wacked out -N Korea and Pakistan- You want a third.
 

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Iran is only going to end up destroying the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty with its stupid antics.

The NPT is a joke. The US is one of the worst offenders. More nukes than you can fit in a small state and will never dismantle any of them guaranteed. Israel is just as bad but at least they didn't sign onto the thing.

My belief is that either everyone can have all the nukes they want or nobody has any. This BS of the US having tons while telling anyone who isn't an ally they can't have them needs to stop. America is not the parent of the world nor the policeman.

We should just gather up all of them but one and send them on a 1 way trip to Pluto. The last one can be used to destroy any machines or equipment used to manufacture the stupid things.
 

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The NPT is a joke. The US is one of the worst offenders. More nukes than you can fit in a small state and will never dismantle any of them guaranteed. Israel is just as bad but at least they didn't sign onto the thing.

My belief is that either everyone can have all the nukes they want or nobody has any. This BS of the US having tons while telling anyone who isn't an ally they can't have them needs to stop. America is not the parent of the world nor the policeman.

We should just gather up all of them but one and send them on a 1 way trip to Pluto. The last one can be used to destroy any machines or equipment used to manufacture the stupid things.

China and Russia are not US allies.
 

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Oh GUYS!!!

We're not gonna start being SERIOUS on this thread are we???

Geez, and here I was looking so forward to reading more jibes at Dark& Looney...........

Dammit.

Way to ruin a thread.......
 

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Oh GUYS!!!

We're not gonna start being SERIOUS on this thread are we???

Geez, and here I was looking so forward to reading more jibes at Dark& Looney...........

Dammit.

Way to ruin a thread.......

Me too. You see the poor quality help you got?

That's right... nor are we it's banker.

Sorry... we're closed. FTW.

That's rich. Uncle Sam is going to debtors prison and the guns to the head aren't working anymore. You don't even know how right you are about the closed part.
 

PoliticalNick

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That's right... nor are we it's banker.

Sorry... we're closed. FTW.

You couldn't scrape together enough for a happy meal right now. The USD will soon be gone as the international currency because it has become worth less than the paper its printed on and your credit is sh*t so don't worry about being a banker. I'd rather loan money to a homeless guy in bankruptcy court.
 

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Either the war happens or the bankers face the gallows all over the world. Israel is expendable always has been. Bankers are immortally evil. Israelis are farming tools of the bankers. We don't ever see the powerful at the top, we don't even see the top.
Almost at the top....

Draghi, Papademos, Monti: All come from Goldman Sachs.
They are going to fix Europe!
I'm very confident!
 

earth_as_one

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They should carpet bomb their nuclear sites. Only way to be sure.
Iran isn't threatening to bomb anyone, hasn't started any unprovoked wars and respects the NPT.

Bomb their nuclear sites and they will retaliate. If Israel bombs Iran's nuclear sites, I would expect Iran to attack israel's nuclear sites. If the US bombs Iran, I would expect Iran to bomb US facilities throughout the region.

So what you are really saying is that you would like to start another war which will likely result in hundreds of thousands if not millions of deaths...
 

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You couldn't scrape together enough for a happy meal right now. The USD will soon be gone as the international currency because it has become worth less than the paper its printed on and your credit is sh*t so don't worry about being a banker. I'd rather loan money to a homeless guy in bankruptcy court.

Oh please Nick. Let's not get get real stupid now.

Bomb their nuclear sites and they will retaliate. If Israel bombs Iran's nuclear sites, I would expect Iran to attack israel's nuclear sites. If the US bombs Iran, I would expect Iran to bomb US facilities throughout the region.

Then you should expect Iran to be without an air force real quick.
 

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EAO; Political Nick and Dark Beaver are like a hit from the time machine. I haven't had to assimilate this much bullcrap since I mistakenly visited a hippy commune back in the mid 60's 'cause I really liked a chick that lived there.

One weekend of all that mindless droning on about how the power brokers were behind every tree looking to steal the hubcaps off your Volkswagon minibus was all I could take. No matter how good that chit was back then it still couldn't numb the brain from being overwhelmed with that idiotic mantra. I grew the biggest and longest lasting migraine that one weekend and swore never again to put myself through that nonsense just to get a piece of tail.

Having to listen to that crap then was enough for me to recognize it and immediately go comatose in self defense from having to hear any more of it.

I'm just barely breath'n here now. You guys are throwbacks in the truest sense of the description!
 

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Bomb their nuclear sites and they will retaliate. If Israel bombs Iran's nuclear sites, I would expect Iran to attack israel's nuclear sites. If the US bombs Iran, I would expect Iran to bomb US facilities throughout the region...

Worked in 81

1981: Israel bombs Baghdad nuclear reactor
The Israelis have bombed a French-built nuclear plant near Iraq's capital, Baghdad, saying they believed it was designed to make nuclear weapons to destroy Israel. It is the world's first air strike against a nuclear plant.
An undisclosed number of F-15 interceptors and F-16 fighter bombers destroyed the Osirak reactor 18 miles south of Baghdad, on the orders of Prime Minister Menachem Begin.
The army command said all the Israeli planes returned safely.
The 70-megawatt uranium-powered reactor was near completion but had not been stocked with nuclear fuel so there was no danger of a leak, according to sources in the French atomic industry.
 

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9/11 was a competently carried out attack. The resulting war on terror very competently exercised. Getting away with it isn't in the bag by any means. That requires this war with Iran and Russia and China and seventy per cent of the rest of the world backing them. This war happens or Israel ceases to exist. Nuttyyahoo and company knows and fears that fact. Either the world burns or that ****ty nest of parasites does. Guess who I hope for.



I appreciate an intelligent dissing. Please try again.


9/11 is the litmus test.

Either the war happens or the bankers face the gallows all over the world.

Yes it was a competently carried out attack. Problem is you are placing the blame on the wrong religion although the right part of the world.
 

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Do you have any proof that Iran has violated any mandatory parts of the NPT? Do you have any evidence that Iran has violated any of the voluntary additional NPT protocols that they signed?

The countries which threaten the NPT are those countries which have an NPT obligation to reduce and eliminate their nuclear arsenals and instead have continued to research and build new types of nuclear weapons.

US, Russia, China, UK, France

Also countries known to possess nukes and have not signed the NPT:

India, Israel, North Korea and Pakistan.
Calls for Olmert to resign after nuclear gaffe | World news | guardian.co.uk

Iran's nuclear program is by far the most closely monitored program in the world. The antics of Iran's adversaries which constantly accuse Iran of developing nukes without proof and punish Iran for its NPT compliant nuclear program threaten the NPT.

Perhaps you can give me a reason why Iran should continue complying with the NPT? So far their NPT compliance has led to embargoes and punishing sanctions... if they had not signed the NPT, they could have clandestinely developed nukes just like India, Israel, North Korea and Pakistan, who don't face any sanctions or embargoes...
Perception is all that matters. The world doesn't operate by narrow Western legalisms. Iran has successfully gamed the system in the opinion of others. So obviously the non-proliferation treaty can be gamed. Thus, there's no reason others can't successfully play the same game.

Btw, Iran isnt in compliance with its disclosure obligations under the NNPT. There are going to be many more nuclear weapons states. I bet that really hurts folks on the left who want a nuclear free world.