Desmond Tutu: Bush/Blair Should Face Trial
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The box that dissapeared? Wow.
I guess you're deluded as well.
From the posts in this thread...more than one...?
I've noticed.
I don't think we would have had the wars but now you mention it in that light.....F*ck! Talk about picking the lesser of 2 evils. :roll:
When it comes to Presidents, Prime Ministers etc. how much do you think of what happens is what they say and how much is what their advisors say? I think these guys are really just puppets, whose biggest concern is growing the pension and any other perks.
So you know what Gore would have been like?
Remember this line Shrubby said
"If you aren't with us,you're against us"
sounded like an ultimatum to allied nations.
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Being $16 trillion in the glue, I doubt if it's high on their spending priority! :lol:
Whoever want to put B&B on trial should,i guess pay the fee for the trial.
BTW since they aren't leaders anymore,they could pay from their own pocket to defend themselves.
BTW since they aren't leaders anymore,they could pay from their own pocket to defend themselves.
A lot of people realized when Tony Blair jumped aboard the Bush/Cheney bandwagon to conquer Iraq that he was a two-faced weasel.
Now, courtesy of Rupert Murdoch, any lingering doubt about Blair's integrity has been obliterated.
Former British prime minister Tony Blair offered to act as a secret adviser to Rupert Murdoch during his media empire's phone-hacking scandal, suggesting the firm follow steps he took to calm public anger over the Iraq war, a London court has heard.
Rebekah Brooks, the ex-boss of Murdoch's British newspapers, wrote an email to Murdoch's son James detailing advice Blair had given her during an hour-long phone call in July 2011 at the height of a furore over phone-hacking allegations at the media mogul's News of the World tabloid.
"He (Blair) is available to you, KRM and me as an unofficial adviser but needs to be between us," said the email from Ms Brooks to James Murdoch, who at the time ran News Corporation operations in Britain. KRM refers to Rupert Murdoch's initials.
Ms Brooks said Mr Blair had counselled: "It will pass. Tough up." Four days later she quit her job and she was arrested by police two days after that.
The email was sent the day after News Corporation closed the 168-year-old News of the World in the face of huge public anger over revelations that its staff had hacked into the voicemail messages of a murdered schoolgirl.
Mr Blair's suggestions to Ms Brooks contrast with a public statement he made three days before their phone call, when he had denounced the hacking scandal as "beyond disgusting".
The email also demonstrates just how close Ms Brooks and Rupert Murdoch were to Britain's elite, a relationship critics said allowed him to use his British newspapers to influence politicians for the benefit of his business interests.
Tony Blair offered to help Rupert Murdoch over phone-hacking
Now, courtesy of Rupert Murdoch, any lingering doubt about Blair's integrity has been obliterated.
Former British prime minister Tony Blair offered to act as a secret adviser to Rupert Murdoch during his media empire's phone-hacking scandal, suggesting the firm follow steps he took to calm public anger over the Iraq war, a London court has heard.
Rebekah Brooks, the ex-boss of Murdoch's British newspapers, wrote an email to Murdoch's son James detailing advice Blair had given her during an hour-long phone call in July 2011 at the height of a furore over phone-hacking allegations at the media mogul's News of the World tabloid.
"He (Blair) is available to you, KRM and me as an unofficial adviser but needs to be between us," said the email from Ms Brooks to James Murdoch, who at the time ran News Corporation operations in Britain. KRM refers to Rupert Murdoch's initials.
Ms Brooks said Mr Blair had counselled: "It will pass. Tough up." Four days later she quit her job and she was arrested by police two days after that.
The email was sent the day after News Corporation closed the 168-year-old News of the World in the face of huge public anger over revelations that its staff had hacked into the voicemail messages of a murdered schoolgirl.
Mr Blair's suggestions to Ms Brooks contrast with a public statement he made three days before their phone call, when he had denounced the hacking scandal as "beyond disgusting".
The email also demonstrates just how close Ms Brooks and Rupert Murdoch were to Britain's elite, a relationship critics said allowed him to use his British newspapers to influence politicians for the benefit of his business interests.
Tony Blair offered to help Rupert Murdoch over phone-hacking
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Desmond Tutu errs in failing to include Barack Hussein Obama in his list of war criminals. Obama's escalation of the war in Afghanistan and unrestricted drone warfare put him in the same category as Bush and Blair. I would love to see them all tried at the Hague, convicted, and swing from the gallows. Desmond Tutu avoided including Obama in the rogue's list because of race imo.
Blair-Bush & Iraq: It’s not just the quagmire but the Lawbreaking & Deception
Blair-Bush & Iraq: It's not just the quagmire but the Lawbreaking & Deception | Informed Comment
Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair is complaining that he is unfairly blamed for causing the current mess in Iraq and that if Saddam had still been in power it would be just as unstable.
He is, perhaps deliberately, missing the point. His invasion of Iraq was illegal and based on deception and propaganda. That was what was wrong with it. A quagmire that is the fruit of illegality and fraud is the worst.
The UN Charter allows of only two legitimate grounds for war. One is self-defense. Blair was not defending Britain from Iraq when he invaded and captured Basra.
Blair gave the opposite impression to the public. He delivered a bizarre speech in which he said that Saddam Hussein could deploy weapons of mass destruction against Europe in as little as 45 minutes. It is not even clear what that assertion could possibly have meant. Iraq had no delivery system for getting chemical weapons to Europe, and you couldn’t have hoped to obtain so much as a sandwich in Baghdad in only 45 minutes. Saddam in any case had no such weapons. British officers scratched their heads and supposed that Blair had misunderstood some briefing he received.
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Those of us who condemned the two needless wars from the beginning were correct all along.
Blair-Bush & Iraq: It's not just the quagmire but the Lawbreaking & Deception | Informed Comment
Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair is complaining that he is unfairly blamed for causing the current mess in Iraq and that if Saddam had still been in power it would be just as unstable.
He is, perhaps deliberately, missing the point. His invasion of Iraq was illegal and based on deception and propaganda. That was what was wrong with it. A quagmire that is the fruit of illegality and fraud is the worst.
The UN Charter allows of only two legitimate grounds for war. One is self-defense. Blair was not defending Britain from Iraq when he invaded and captured Basra.
Blair gave the opposite impression to the public. He delivered a bizarre speech in which he said that Saddam Hussein could deploy weapons of mass destruction against Europe in as little as 45 minutes. It is not even clear what that assertion could possibly have meant. Iraq had no delivery system for getting chemical weapons to Europe, and you couldn’t have hoped to obtain so much as a sandwich in Baghdad in only 45 minutes. Saddam in any case had no such weapons. British officers scratched their heads and supposed that Blair had misunderstood some briefing he received.
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Those of us who condemned the two needless wars from the beginning were correct all along.
Is that the same Desmond Tutu who has been associated with members of Hamas?
The Archbishop is on the Advisory Board for a controversial group called the Global March to Jerusalem (GM2J), which aims to stage civilian marches on Israel’s capital. The group's advisers also include two members of Hamas, Zaher Birawi and Ahmad Abo Halabiya.
In a sermon given at a mosque in Gaza and broadcast live on Palestinian TV, Ahmad Abo Halabiya allegedly said: “Have no mercy on the Jews, no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them . . . and those Americans who are like them, and those who stand by them.”
Desmond Tutu + His attacks on Blair and Bush = 1 massive hypocrite.
The Archbishop is on the Advisory Board for a controversial group called the Global March to Jerusalem (GM2J), which aims to stage civilian marches on Israel’s capital. The group's advisers also include two members of Hamas, Zaher Birawi and Ahmad Abo Halabiya.
In a sermon given at a mosque in Gaza and broadcast live on Palestinian TV, Ahmad Abo Halabiya allegedly said: “Have no mercy on the Jews, no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them . . . and those Americans who are like them, and those who stand by them.”
Desmond Tutu + His attacks on Blair and Bush = 1 massive hypocrite.
Archbishop Desmond Tutu is an absolute idiot another UN puppet.
It is incredible how Tutu is incapable of telling the difference between good and evil. The British and American forces in Iraq got rid of a tyrant whose sons cruised the streets picking up rape victims at will, and he used chemical weapons against his own citizens - and when Iran lets loose a terrorist campaign he blames the British and Americans. In the Middle East he supports Hamas Islamic extremists who are trying to ethnically cleanse Christians, and rants against Israel for refusing to impose the Nuremberg Laws. The man is a disgrace
Somebody should have put a bullet in his black *** long ago..
But I know the Anti-Bush and Anti-Blair and Anti-War zealots will be all over this thread, mastrabating furiously to the idea..
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OK who's the idiot who necro'd this thread?? Gopher!!! :roll: Figures.
Global March? One of its leaders is Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb of the Jewish Renewal Movement as well as Christians and others.