Extreme heat, drought have ‘virtually no explanation other than climate change’

bobnoorduyn

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Pfff... of course the climate is changing. It has been for millennia, the only constant is change, jeez. If you want a real scare, follow the money trail behind those who want to exploit it. Here's a quote:

"The common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself
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- Club of Rome,
premier environmental think-tank,
consultants to the United Nations

Google the Club of Rome, Google David Rockefeller, whose estate it was founded on and the one who donated the land the UN building sits on. Google their who's who of past and former members Google the Earth Charter authored by Maurice Strong, (remember him, former prez of Power Corp, helped Paul Martin leverage a buyout of CSL and become PM), and Micheal Gorbachov, (Sorry poor english translation for Михаил Горбачёв, but if you don't remember him you're still a teenager) , Google Agenda 21, Google the Gaia hypothesis, Google the Green agenda...

There is a lot of stuff out there that will scare the willies out of you far more than any threat of global warming, man made or otherwise, ever will. There is a threat that is certainly man made, though, but I'll leave that to each of you to decide for yourselves. Hint, don't follow the money, follow the monied, that's where the power is, they just want more of it.

Yes, the climate is changing, both ecologically and politically, one we can't change, one we can. In the 70's, the Club of Rome sparked fears of a coming ice age, their goal is and has always been a "New World Order", and if you can't find a common foe to unite the useful idiots to follow that goal, invent one, and so they have, again. Wake up people. I'm not saying take in on my say so, but take the time to invistigate on your own, make up your own mind, I did.
 

bobnoorduyn

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Bob, if they admit it then a it's a conspiracy and not a theory of a conspiracy correct?

Their vision of a New World Order is in print. The conspiracy devil is in the details, of how the want to achieve it, but that is also in print. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, they've been actually quite open about their goals, the coverup is their means of achieving them.
 

bobnoorduyn

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Of course, that's why people who deny climate change are demonstably idiots.

Denying climate change is like denying eclipses, they happen, with regularity and predictibility. Climate change does happen with some regularity, but over a greater span of time than can allow for accurate predicitions, kind of like earthquakes. The Majority of climate change deniers are lumped into a pidgeon hole of "deniers", much like holocaust deniers, (that's why the useful idiots, or more likely their handlers like the term because it further demonizes them), because they don't follow the orthidoxy of the zeitgeist. Mere skepticism puts you in that pidgeon hole.
 

bobnoorduyn

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Those would be the screwballs. Then there are those who deny the source of the change.


You don't really think that we, as humans, can change something as enormous as the climate, do you? Nature will go back to nature once we stop exploiting it, I've seen it, and it really doesn't take that long.
 

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You don't really think that we, as humans, can change something as enormous as the climate, do you? Nature will go back to nature once we stop exploiting it, I've seen it, and it really doesn't take that long.

You are contradicting yourself with those two sentences.

If nature will 'go back to nature once we stop exploiting it', then it's obvious that what we are doing now is having some impact, else why would nature need to 'go back' to the way it used to be?

You've actually just confirmed that you agree that man's activities have an impact on the globe.
 

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Denying climate change is like denying eclipses, they happen, with regularity and predictibility. Climate change does happen with some regularity, but over a greater span of time than can allow for accurate predicitions, kind of like earthquakes. The Majority of climate change deniers are lumped into a pidgeon hole of "deniers", much like holocaust deniers, (that's why the useful idiots, or more likely their handlers like the term because it further demonizes them), because they don't follow the orthidoxy of the zeitgeist. Mere skepticism puts you in that pidgeon hole.

Feeling oppressed, are you?

Yesssss, the evil cabal of the AGNers is out to get you! You're so wise to spot it.
 

bobnoorduyn

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You are contradicting yourself with those two sentences.

If nature will 'go back to nature once we stop exploiting it', then it's obvious that what we are doing now is having some impact, else why would nature need to 'go back' to the way it used to be?

You've actually just confirmed that you agree that man's activities have an impact on the globe.

No, I'm not contradicting myself, you are trying to build your own case for hate of humanity. We do exploit, that is how we live, all living creatures do it, we eat, we crap, we replenish from whence we came. That is how the world works, and has always worked.
 

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No, I'm not contradicting myself, you are trying to build your own case for hate of humanity. We do exploit, that is how we live, all living creatures do it, we eat, we crap, we replenish from whence we came. That is how the world works, and has always worked.

Please keep your hate for humanity to yourself.


 

TenPenny

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No, I'm not contradicting myself, you are trying to build your own case for hate of humanity. We do exploit, that is how we live, all living creatures do it, we eat, we crap, we replenish from whence we came. That is how the world works, and has always worked.

hate for humanity? I think you're off your meds.

So, you claim that man's activity is changing nature, and that nature will change back.

But you're now trying to say that I hate humanity because I agree with you that man's activity is changing nature?
 

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I notice the report is the latest to make note of the fact that heat spikes have become more numerous, while cold spikes have almost disappeared. I expect the researchers will say the same in the wintertime.

Two winters ago when the weather was bitter and cold records were being broken and the snow was building up in small mountains we were told to ignore it because it was weather.

Perhaps you should all get together and get this fantasy straight. You're all starting to sound like 911 Truthers.
 

TenPenny

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Actually, not in the least, I see what's going on around me though, I think the AGNers may be out to get you, they may already have.:-(
That makes me sad.

I find it interesting when people claim that it's impossible for human activity to change the climate, and then they say that the climate will change back once we STOP changing it.

How can you pretend that you aren't agreeing that we're changing nature, when you say nature will change BACK when we stop changing it? Any system will respond to inputs and lack of inputs. I just don't understand why your political view requires you to claim that you don't believe what you yourself are saying.

That's a sort of mental illness.
 

bobnoorduyn

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hate for humanity? I think you're off your meds.

So, you claim that man's activity is changing nature, and that nature will change back.

But you're now trying to say that I hate humanity because I agree with you that man's activity is changing nature?

Better check your own meds, I'm down to one-a-day, I never claimed that man's activity was changing nature. Humanity is part of nature, we are not going to change it, yes we exploit it, but so does every other creature that lives here. Of course we change our environment, but we don't change nature. If the wolves kill all the moose, the wolves die off or move to other territory, we do the same. What I said was that what we do exploit will eventually be reclaimed by nature, as it will with wolves' territory. I'm sorry I said that you somehow regard humanity as less that what it is, it is only because environmentalists regard humanity somewhat lower than the slug. I got caught up in the moment.