Why America Dropped the Bomb

[Locutus]

Hiroshima, Japan: 67 Years Ago Today



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History revisionists state that the dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima & Nagasaki was immoral and unnecessary. They purport that the Japanese government was ready to surrender before this, albeit with little to no evidence to support this supposition.
Had American troops been forced to fight conventionally on the Japanese mainland, earlier battles in 1945 provide a vivid reminder of the facts that President Harry Truman was dealing with:


Battle of Iwo Jima - 21,844 of 22,060 Japanese troops killed
Battle of Okinawa - 95,000+ of 120,000 Japanese troops killed



Prager University: Hiroshima -- Why America Dropped the Bomb - YouTube


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[WLDB]

I used to be totally against that move. Now I see it as having been the lesser of two evils given the situation at the time. They werent the first large cities wiped out by the allies. They were just the first to be wiped out with one bomb each. Hopefully they will remain the last.

This is one of those debates that will likely never really end.

 

[Walter]

Truman had guts.

 

[Liberalman]

Truman had guts.

It took two atomic bombs for the Japanese to surrender and according to one book I read on the subject Tokyo was next so the Japanese realized that they were fighting a lost cause

 

[JLM]

Sometimes you gotta be a pr*ck!

Hiroshima, Japan: 67 Years Ago Today



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History revisionists state that the dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima & Nagasaki was immoral and unnecessary.

For an accurate opinion on this matter check with the thousands who suffered in Japanese P.O.W. camps! :smile:

 

[B00Mer]

Watch Radio Bikini... you want to see what they did to their own soldiers after they dropped the bomb..

Tests with live military persons, sprayed with radioactive mist.. died horrible deaths.. this was US soldiers, 1000's of them.

"Radio Bikini" on Vimeo

Was the bomb a necessary evil to stop a war.. I think so.. but what it has become is more of a concern..

 

[PoliticalNick]

First thing to consider is that Japan was drawn into the war by the oil/energy embargo by the US. This was fully planned and calculated by the US to give an excuse to enter the conflict with the blessing of its people. There are many theories and rumors that they knew the attack on Pearl was imminent and did nothing but call the fleet to harbor so as to allow a free path for the Japanese and create a bigger tragedy in order to manipulate the will of the American people into supporting entry to the war. There is also much speculation that the Japanese were going to surrender before Hiroshima and definitely before Nagasaki but the US would not talk because they were intent on dropping both bombs.

For all the propaganda about evil leaders and dangerous countries and terrorist threats using WMDs there is still only 1 country to ever drop the bomb on another country with the intent of mass destruction and that is the USA. Given that they knew the devastation it would cause and had a really good idea of the after effects I am quite convinced that it had less to do with defeating Japan, who were basically already done, and more to do with making a statement to the rest of the world that the US was going to rule the planet at their whim.

The US has quite a record of inflicting mass casualties on military & civilians in conflicts. It would seem that is their only strategy, not diplomacy, not small directed attacks, just as much devastation and human suffering as possible hence their love of the atomic bomb and their mentality to use it on a population.

 

[lone wolf]

Funny thing about The Bomb: Everyone was working out the secret. What would have happend had Germany or Japan solved the riddle first?

 

[WLDB]

Sometimes you gotta be a pr*ck!



For an accurate opinion on this matter check with the thousands who suffered in Japanese P.O.W. camps! :smile:

Those things were awful. They made the Nazis seem like nice people when it comes to treatment of POWs. Well, POWS from the west anyway. I would have been pretty afraid to be captured alive by the Japanses had I been in that situation.

Funny thing about The Bomb: Everyone was working out the secret. What would have happend had Germany or Japan solved the riddle first?

If the Germans got it it'd suck for the UK. I doubt they would have been able to use it on the US. The Japanese would probably have no problem with sending a sub on a suicide mission. Just go into a major port, surface and detonate the bomb.

 

[taxslave]

First thing to consider is that Japan was drawn into the war by the oil/energy embargo by the US. This was fully planned and calculated by the US to give an excuse to enter the conflict with the blessing of its people. There are many theories and rumors that they knew the attack on Pearl was imminent and did nothing but call the fleet to harbor so as to allow a free path for the Japanese and create a bigger tragedy in order to manipulate the will of the American people into supporting entry to the war. There is also much speculation that the Japanese were going to surrender before Hiroshima and definitely before Nagasaki but the US would not talk because they were intent on dropping both bombs.

For all the propaganda about evil leaders and dangerous countries and terrorist threats using WMDs there is still only 1 country to ever drop the bomb on another country with the intent of mass destruction and that is the USA. Given that they knew the devastation it would cause and had a really good idea of the after effects I am quite convinced that it had less to do with defeating Japan, who were basically already done, and more to do with making a statement to the rest of the world that the US was going to rule the planet at their whim.

The US has quite a record of inflicting mass casualties on military & civilians in conflicts. It would seem that is their only strategy, not diplomacy, not small directed attacks, just as much devastation and human suffering as possible hence their love of the atomic bomb and their mentality to use it on a population.

Now there is a fine piece of revisionist history. Short on facts and long on BS.

 

[Kakato]

Upon witnessing the explosion, its creators had mixed reactions. Isidor Rabi felt that the equilibrium in nature had been upset as if humankind had become a threat to the world it inhabited. Robert Oppenheimer, though ecstatic about the success of the project, quoted a remembered fragment from the Bhagavad Gita. "I am become Death," he said, "the destroyer of worlds." Ken Bainbridge, the test director, told Oppenheimer, "Now we're all sons of bitches."

 

[lone wolf]

I bet Japan was drawn into Manchuria too....

 

[PoliticalNick]

Now there is a fine piece of revisionist history. Short on facts and long on BS.

Nothing revisionist at all unless I missed the news the day another bomb was dropped. You need to find out the truth... not just buy the propaganda of the US leadership.

Those things were awful. They made the Nazis seem like nice people when it comes to treatment of POWs. Well, POWS from the west anyway. I would have been pretty afraid to be captured alive by the Japanses had I been in that situation.

Mustard gas, agent orange, napalm, white phosphorous and more rcently Abu Grahib, Guantanamo Bay, Rendition....need I say more about the tactics of the US. Who knows what they did in other conflicts but I am sure they are no angels.

If the Germans got it it'd suck for the UK. I doubt they would have been able to use it on the US. The Japanese would probably have no problem with sending a sub on a suicide mission. Just go into a major port, surface and detonate the bomb.

All speculation, facts remain the same....USA is only one to ever use nuclear weapons in a conflict!!

 

[taxslave]

Nothing revisionist at all unless I missed the news the day another bomb was dropped. You need to find out the truth... not just buy the propaganda of the US leadership.


Mustard gas, agent orange, napalm, white phosphorous and more rcently Abu Grahib, Guantanamo Bay, Rendition....need I say more about the tactics of the US. Who knows what they did in other conflicts but I am sure they are no angels.



All speculation, facts remain the same....USA is only one to ever use nuclear weapons in a conflict!!

Your anti US bias is showing.
Fact is dropping those bombs saved thousands of lives and money.

 

[B00Mer]

First thing to consider is that Japan was drawn into the war by the oil/energy embargo by the US. This was fully planned and calculated by the US to give an excuse to enter the conflict with the blessing of its people. There are many theories and rumors that they knew the attack on Pearl was imminent and did nothing but call the fleet to harbor so as to allow a free path for the Japanese and create a bigger tragedy in order to manipulate the will of the American people into supporting entry to the war. There is also much speculation that the Japanese were going to surrender before Hiroshima and definitely before Nagasaki but the US would not talk because they were intent on dropping both bombs.

For all the propaganda about evil leaders and dangerous countries and terrorist threats using WMDs there is still only 1 country to ever drop the bomb on another country with the intent of mass destruction and that is the USA. Given that they knew the devastation it would cause and had a really good idea of the after effects I am quite convinced that it had less to do with defeating Japan, who were basically already done, and more to do with making a statement to the rest of the world that the US was going to rule the planet at their whim.

The US has quite a record of inflicting mass casualties on military & civilians in conflicts. It would seem that is their only strategy, not diplomacy, not small directed attacks, just as much devastation and human suffering as possible hence their love of the atomic bomb and their mentality to use it on a population.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Your anti US bias is showing.
Fact is dropping those bombs saved thousands of lives and money.

Hmmmm, 200,000+ dead and a few hundred square miles of densely populated cities flattened, did I miss something here.

And Yes, I am quite anti-US....not the citizenry but their leadership's policy of world domination by any means necessary including illegal invasions based upon propaganda and lies.

Problems with the truth Boomer??? Keep those thumbs down coming...shows I hit a nerve and you know the truth deep inside

 

[B00Mer]

Problems with the truth Boomer??? Keep those thumbs down coming...shows I hit a nerve and you know the truth deep inside

Say, just giving you back what you gave me ..

However, by the thumbs down you gave me on specific threads and your position on the USA, it's a tell tale sign that your a Muslim.

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Here, now you can hate the UK too..because that's what it's all about "Hate."

 

[Walter]

All speculation, facts remain the same....USA is only one to ever use nuclear weapons in a conflict!!

Using 2 exclamation marks obviously makes everything you say even truer.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Using 2 exclamation marks obviously makes everything you say even truer.

What exactly is untrue about the statement? Am I wrong that the only nukes ever used against people were dropped by the US?

Say, just giving you back what you gave me ..

However, by the thumbs down you gave me on specific threads and your position on the USA, it's a tell tale sign that your a Muslim.

Here, now you can hate the UK too..because that's what it's all about "Hate."

Ooooh, a good guess but you are now eliminated from the competition....I am actually Jewish by heritage though lean more towards being agnostic personally. Better luck in the next event. ;-)

I don't hate anyone, not Jews, Muslims, Bhuddists, or even misguided Christians like yourself. I despise governments who use lies and propaganda to justify their actions and garner support from the citizenry to do evil things under the guise of being the good guys.

 

[lone wolf]

So you'd have preferred a foot-by-foot war on Japan's home islands that would make Saipan or Okinawa look like a drunken brawl and kill millions?