At least 10 killed after shooting during 'Dark Knight' screening in Colorado
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Okay, I actually thought you were playing obtuse about the "bear" part.....but maybe you really are that ignorant.
From the MacMillian dictionary:
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- literary to carry or take someone or something somewhere a coffin bearing the remains of an old man
Thesaurus entry for this meaning of bear - a.
to support the weight of something The floorboards could not bear the weight of the piano.
Thesaurus entry for this meaning of bear
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[usually passive] literary if something is borne along by wind, air, or water, it is moved along by it
Thesaurus entry for this meaning of bear
- c.
to carry or hold something, for example a weapon a missile-bearing warship
bear arms (=carry weapons): Do you support the citizen's right to bear arms?
- a.
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As for the suit, Levitt claimed in the book Freakonomics that other academics had been unable to replicate Lott's work. Lott sued him on that point, and lost, as Levitt has every right to print his opinion.
However, Levitt also wrote e-mails claiming that Lott paid for the publication of academic papers by a number of academics that supported Lott's position, and that those papers has not been peer reviewed. Lott sued him for that as well, and WON.
The second suit, won by Lott, proved his research WAS backed by other academics, and WAS peer reviewed.............and thus put the lie to Levitt's claim in Freakonomics.
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Yes that makes so much sense.... an unlearned lesson of 9/11?
What would have been done? Do you think citizens would be able to shoot down the planes before they crashed into the WTC/Pentagon??
Or was this a point that everybody getting on a plane should have been able to carry firearms on board?
Cuz a shoot out in an enclosed, pressurized space high up in the air would have worked so much better.... the planes wouldn't have crashed into the WTC's or the Pentagon, they would have just crashed into something else and possibly leave a trail of destruction through heavily populated areas a mile or two long.
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Back to the "Actual Topic" for a bit, what is really stupid about this whole situation is that all I hear on the news is nothing but the shooter.... how he didn't get into a gun club, how he had some crazy message on his answering machine, how he dressed up when he attacked, how more people would have died if one of his guns didn't jam, how his home was booby trapped...... I'm surprised I haven't heard what was in his stool yet, or is that all still at the lab?
All they're doing is further glorifying this idiot like they glorified all the previous mass shooters.
Nothing is going to change, no laws are going to be amended, nothing will ever be done.... and all they do is glorify these clowns so that more clowns like them are further enticed to commit similar mass shootings so they too get glorified & famous.
If nothing is ever going to be done about idiots like these people, then stop publicizing these idiots.
It's almost as if they want more of these idiots to do these things.
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Yeah...I like it, but I don't get the 9-11 reference either.
Although the "bullets penetrating a pressurized cabin causes disaster" thing is a popular misconception.......
And I find it hard to imagine anywhere the plane could have crashed that would have been more densely populated than the WTC
Well if they were on their way to the WTC and went down before they got to the buildings, they would most likely crash somewhere into the city and spread out across a large area & through many smaller buildings, where the WTC buildings absorbed pretty much the entire plane(s) due to being a direct hit.
My guess anyways.
This is one of the things that I don't get.
A cop fires his weapon for whatever reason. In doing so he has to submit it for checks and write a report of the incident and gets grilled over it, plus who knows what else.
Ordinary Joe citizen fires his weapon for whatever reason, and who the heck cares.
Why is it Ordinary Joe can get away with this crap but a cop can't? If anything, Joe should be held more accountable for everything he does with his weapon. Fact, why not regulate the amount of ammunition someone can buy, where they can buy it and so on? They buy more than a certain amount, it's flagged across the data-bases of the Feds and they get a visit. Or limit where ammo can be bought?
I mean, because having a solution to the gun problem should be a priority, right?
Oh, forgot, it's a "right" to have guns and excess amounts of ammo for destruction and murder. My bad.
A cop fires his weapon for whatever reason. In doing so he has to submit it for checks and write a report of the incident and gets grilled over it, plus who knows what else.
Ordinary Joe citizen fires his weapon for whatever reason, and who the heck cares.
Why is it Ordinary Joe can get away with this crap but a cop can't? If anything, Joe should be held more accountable for everything he does with his weapon. Fact, why not regulate the amount of ammunition someone can buy, where they can buy it and so on? They buy more than a certain amount, it's flagged across the data-bases of the Feds and they get a visit. Or limit where ammo can be bought?
I mean, because having a solution to the gun problem should be a priority, right?
Oh, forgot, it's a "right" to have guns and excess amounts of ammo for destruction and murder. My bad.
WOW, attacking a funny cartoon as part of your anti-gun rhetoric. LOL. :lol:
You're just looking for opportunities to use this national media furor over the Denver shootings in hopes the government passes some additional gun control legislation. The Liberal philosophy, "NEVER let a crisis go to waste."
An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life, so Praxius, quit robbing the neighborhood 7/11's - you never know what the guy behind the counter could be carrying. ;-) :lol:
Well, Mr. Colpy. We have some dictionary copy and paste to "back up" Constitutional copy and paste. The same inanity and inability to understand what is in front of you instigates both.
Notice in your new effort that one "bears" a coffin. Think about that and try to absorb the fact that a coffin is not born until the occupant is dead. Just as a citizen does not have the Right, or obligation, to bear Arms until there is a national emergency.
Everyone knows that there is academic support for Lott. There is academic support for the climate change crazy, Monckton, too. There is also more academic support for their critics from academics who have some expertise in the fields. The American Thinkers Institute can rustle up some Right Wing academics to support any cause it fosters. It does not do so any more since Lott has become an embarrassment to it.
You still have produced precisely nothing to bolster your case or to dent mine. The fact remains that a militia is a militia with the role defined as I wrote it. There is no Right in the American Constitution to carry Arms but only to "bear Arms" as national emergency dictates.
From one "moron" to another. Do you think I am a high grade moron, functioning in society? Or am I a low grade moron wallowing beside you in a morass of ignorance.
Notice in your new effort that one "bears" a coffin. Think about that and try to absorb the fact that a coffin is not born until the occupant is dead. Just as a citizen does not have the Right, or obligation, to bear Arms until there is a national emergency.
Everyone knows that there is academic support for Lott. There is academic support for the climate change crazy, Monckton, too. There is also more academic support for their critics from academics who have some expertise in the fields. The American Thinkers Institute can rustle up some Right Wing academics to support any cause it fosters. It does not do so any more since Lott has become an embarrassment to it.
You still have produced precisely nothing to bolster your case or to dent mine. The fact remains that a militia is a militia with the role defined as I wrote it. There is no Right in the American Constitution to carry Arms but only to "bear Arms" as national emergency dictates.
From one "moron" to another. Do you think I am a high grade moron, functioning in society? Or am I a low grade moron wallowing beside you in a morass of ignorance.
Just got back from vacation... but Colorado is a Southern state?! I think Southerners would have an issue with that!
What is a water bearer or stretcher bearer if not someone who carries water or a stretcher?
In my estimation, someone is being deliberately obtuse - possibly a fear of being wrong.
In my estimation, someone is being deliberately obtuse - possibly a fear of being wrong.
So you think burglars, muggers, murderers, etc. are not a threat to the nation?
10, 329, 137 instances recorded of violent, property, murder, rape, robbery, and assault crimes costing in the 100s of billions of dollars according to 2010 stats alone. Yeah, no threat at all.
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Simply because nitwits like you can't get the reasoning behind the arguments in the first place. And it isn't as if your arguments don't go round in circles either.
And vice versa.
It was established by the US SJC that that is not the case. It was interpreted that the right to bear arms is a right of the people and not simply those in a militia.
Which would clearly be an infringement on the rights of the people
True. The Government and State Governments restrict or allow certain types of firearms as they see fit.
I do not think anyone would refute the definition of arms with regards to weapons.
See you then!That is all..... See you all in the next US mass shooting thread.
I bet the smoke grenades saved a lot. If I'm ever under an assault like that and the shooter wants to throw smoke before he starts shooting I'd be much obliged for the cover.
This happens each time. I bet you remember the names of the killer in each instance before you remember the victims. As long as this happens, it provides a seed in a crazy mind that the path to glory is through an insane action.
Agreed, JLM. What bothers me is that he was able to get such a large amount of ammunition. One might think with all the spy-networks available to anti-terrorist folks these days, that a bell would have gone off somewhere. No one individual needs that amount of ammo - not an animal alive or dead that couldn't be brought down by far less firepower.
Welcome back, Eagle..........hope you had a great vacation.