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Crude in that part of the country is very low in sulphur. This includes bitumen from the oil sands.
Upgrading is NOT a desulphuraization process.
Just where are you getting this malarkey anyways??? Some of this bitumen is sent to Regina for refining, is the Regina refinery built to sour spec??? NO, it isn't!!!
Separating sulphur from crude is a well established technology in areas where the crude is sour, like in the Fox Creek area of AB.
Better learn to get your facts straight before you go mouthing off on something you know nothing about..
Is it the drilling that is bad for the environment or the product?
As you are well aware I don't buy into the CO2 hooey BUT I want to be clear that I fully support clean air, water and soil.
There is a by-product of fossil fuels which we rarely hear mentioned which is truly something I'm concerned about and that is sulfur.
Sulfur is what seperates sweet crude (low sulfur content) heavy crude and oil sands bitumen (high sulfur content)
What is being done about sulfur content? Plenty but we just don't hear about it enough thanks to the overzealous marketing of CO2 as the biggest environmental culprit.
The current investment into desulfurization R&D is heavy. Upgrading which is a desulfurization process turns heavy crude and bitumen into a high grade low sulfur product.
Upgrading tech is making leaps and bounds to achieve a product that is of remarkably good quality.
Are the oil companies and Fed researchers doing it soley for environment purposes? To be honest the answer is yes and no. The sulfur extracted during upgrading is a very very valuable asset and is sold to offset the high cost of upgrading.
If enviro groups wanted to make a real impact they'd put sulfur first and foremost because the impacts of sulfur reduction are immediate and benefit all of us on this goofy planet today
Sulfur affects all of us in the here and now not through hypotheticals and potentials like CO2.
The sulfur issue is real.
A final note to the CO2 bandwagoneers who think we still live ni the 70s......SMARTEN THE **** UP!
Likewise I am in support of clean air and water but not a total shutdown of all industry which is what many eco terrorists demand. Actually I doubt any of them realize how much they depend on the industries they are trying to destroy or how quickly their cities would collapse into chaos without a daily chain of trucks bringing them their every little want.
Not sure where all the sulfur goes but there is a constant flow onto bulk carriers in Vancouver. I know that pulp mills and steel mills use a portion of it.
Wheres these hundreds of thousands of square miles of pristine wilderness that's in jeopardy or do you even know?That's all you've ever posted.
You mean you've ruined it all?Wheres these hundreds of thousands of pristine wilderness that's in jeopardy or do you even know?
No, that's what you do.Did you just make that up?
Likewise I am in support of clean air and water but not a total shutdown of all industry which is what many eco terrorists demand. Actually I doubt any of them realize how much they depend on the industries they are trying to destroy or how quickly their cities would collapse into chaos without a daily chain of trucks bringing them their every little want.
Not sure where all the sulfur goes but there is a constant flow onto bulk carriers in Vancouver. I know that pulp mills and steel mills use a portion of it.
Ahhhh,like Tonn. and the winter wheat,you cant answer.You mean you've ruined it all?
You must be proud... :roll:
No, that's what you do.
I did 22 years in the strip mines so it's an educated guess,I bet they would fit in 500 square miles now i think of it.Is that a guess?
I did 22 years in the strip mines so it's an educated guess,I bet they would fit in 500 square miles now i think of it.
Geezus, if we add up all the years you put in here and there, you'd be in your late 70's.I did 22 years in the strip mines so it's an educated guess...
Stop lying and trolling, it got you banned once this month.Bear,leave us adults alone and go abuse the rep system some more.Some of us want to discuss things.
I had two.... Velcro and Kaos. Both took off after pussy. Ungrateful buggers.....What? No way! If I'm to have a cat name it has to be something cool.
Apocalypse Meow?
I had two.... Velcro and Kaos. Both took off after pussy. Ungrateful buggers.....
I think all the strip mines in the world could fit into 5000 square miles and have lots of room to spare.
Looks like some got "powned" again with the lack of any backup to their wild claim.
slagged??? Awww, poor Goob, go se mommy, mommy maybe make it better for you!!
Thanks for the info.Looks like someone doesn't know much about the world.
In the US, between 1930 and 2000, coal mining altered about 2.4 million hectares [5.9 million acres] of natural landscape, most of it originally forest.
In China, coal mining has impacted an estimated 3.2 million hectares
So that's 12,300 square miles in China alone, and another 9,200 in the US just from coal mining.
Looks like someone doesn't know much about the world.
In the US, between 1930 and 2000, coal mining altered about 2.4 million hectares [5.9 million acres] of natural landscape, most of it originally forest.
In China, coal mining has impacted an estimated 3.2 million hectares
So that's 12,300 square miles in China alone, and another 9,200 in the US just from coal mining.
Nope, you didn't.I believe I said "currently".
Nope, that's not what you said.Current operating strip mines,got that?
Oh I know, and so do most intelligent people, which is why you're the only one asking where it is, lol.bear doesn't seem to know even though he made the claim..
I believe I said "currently".
Current operating strip mines,got that?
Maybe you know where these hundreds of thousands of acres in Alberta that are in jeopardy are?bear doesn't seem to know even though he made the claim..
Ya,I worked in many mines all over Canada,so it is an EDUCATED guess.Still your picking at nothing,the fact is that bear claims there is hundreds of thousands of kilometers of threatened land here,so maybe answer that snafu before you try a character assasination against me.Your post is misleading- It could apply to the mines you worked on- the mines you observed- But I like TP took it as a world total. Perhaps some clarity next time then you would not have to insult TP for taking what you posted as I and others did.
Your post is below.
I did 22 years in the strip mines so it's an educated guess,I bet they would fit in 500 square miles now i think of it.
They work a small area for many years,not like logging that will destroy a whole eco system with clear cutting doing way more damage,but hey! lets focus on the oilsands and Alberta right?
Hundreds of thousands of square Km's of pristine land, still in jeopardy.
Nothing 'LOL' about that.
Ya,I worked in many mines all over Canada,so it is an EDUCATED guess.Still your picking at nothing,the fact is that bear claims there is hundreds of kilometers of threatened land here,so maybe answer that snafu before you try a character assanination against me.
Here's his post.
Bear boasts
So wheres all this land? Simple question,should be easy to answer as that would be most of Alberta.
That's your shtick, not Goobs.... so maybe answer that snafu before you try a character assanination against me.
No, boasting is what you do.Bear boasts
It would have to be, you asked it.Simple question...
So fess up and thank TP for providing accurate info. Nothing wrong with that.