Parks Canada staff banned from criticizing Feds

[JLM]

I think there is a potential for a real problem here. The vast majority of Gov't. employees are Union. The vast majority of Union employees go on strike sooner or later. How do you go on strike without bad mouthing your employee, either directly stated or strong implied? :lol:

 

[petros]

I think there is a potential for a real problem here. The vast majority of Gov't. employees are Union. The vast majority of Union employees go on strike sooner or later. How do you go on strike without bad mouthing your employee, either directly stated or strong implied? :lol:

The employer is Parks Canada not the Fed govt.

 

[CDNBear]

The employer is Parks Canada not the Fed govt.

Yer nitting picks.

 

[MapleDog]

The employer is Parks Canada not the Fed govt.

Park Canada like any other services are canadian gov.

 

[JLM]

The employer is Parks Canada not the Fed govt.

Who owns Parks Canada?

 

[SLM]

Why should public servants get special treatment, just because their boss in the Federal Gov't?

This site, is the very reason my last employer had a policy written and implemented, regarding just mere commentary, while citing the companies name.

It was an effective gag order posting anything that might shed a bad light on the company. Not just a restriction on posting anything bad about the company.

Because it is the government. Are people employees first or citizens first? Don't all citizens have the right to protest against their own government? It's not about giving them special treatment, it's about treating all citizens equally.

Should Parks Canada be able to prevent their staff from wearing their uniform when they march on the hill protesting, oh I don't know, Veteran's Rights? Yeah, sure. But they shouldn't be able to prevent them from attending.

Their own department, that's fair. Because in that way they are being treated just like any other employee of any other company.

Bank machines in Japanese confuse me.

What? You're not up for the challenge?

 

[CDNBear]

Because it is the government. Are people employees first or citizens first? Don't all citizens have the right to protest against their own government? It's not about giving them special treatment, it's about treating all citizens equally.

Right, and not all citizens can publicly criticize the company they work for.

Well they can, but then they get fired.

 

[SLM]

Right, and not all citizens can publicly criticize the company they work for.

Well they can, but then they get fired.

Yes, and that is a restriction on freedom of speech. But then I guess we have the right to free speech but we don't necessarily have the right to work for ABC Company.

I guess I just see it as the employer being the exception here and not the employees. And that's where I think the compromise needs to come in. Know what I mean?

 

[petros]

Who owns Parks Canada?

Me. You.

Because it is the government. Are people employees first or citizens first? Don't all citizens have the right to protest against their own government? It's not about giving them special treatment, it's about treating all citizens equally.

Bring it up at the next meeting.

 

[CDNBear]

Yes, and that is a restriction on freedom of speech. But then I guess we have the right to free speech but we don't necessarily have the right to work for ABC Company.

I guess I just see it as the employer being the exception here and not the employees. And that's where I think the compromise needs to come in. Know what I mean?

Yep.

 

[JLM]

Me. You.

Well, then the whole kit and caboodle of them should be fired forthwith! :lol:

What do I care if you are driving a motorcycle without a helmet, a car without a seatbelt? And so on.

For a very good reason.......when they are confined to a wheel chair or worse for the rest of their lives on the public purse, you will be paying for it. :lol:

 

[MapleDog]

Who owns Parks Canada?

I hope its not "Diznee"

 

[taxslave]

When I worked for DND I had to sign a piece of paper that said I would keep my mouth shut about anything going on at the base. I think it is fairly common. We have the same rule at the fire department . One does not speak to the media or outside immediate family about things that happen there without permission.

 

[Kakato]

When I worked for DND I had to sign a piece of paper that said I would keep my mouth shut about anything going on at the base. I think it is fairly common. We have the same rule at the fire department . One does not speak to the media or outside immediate family about things that happen there without permission.

Same thing at the cold lake weapons range,no cameras allowed either.

 

[CDNBear]

Same thing at the last two companies I worked for, no camera's, no comments. Even the learning center I volunteer at has the same policy.

 

[SLM]

Most places do. It does make sense, we can be seen as an extension of our employers. Even if someone is completely talking out of their ass, when they are talking about their employer they are seen as being "in the know", to have some kind of authority regarding the information they are imparting.

Rarely will you find the same kind of restriction against speaking about the field in general or other companies within the same field as your employer. That's a closer analogy to a public servant speaking about other government departments, in my opinion.

 

[Tonington]

No, it's not.

Yes, absolutely it is. If A and B, public and private, are the only two options, but it's not clear when exactly you're operating under premise A or B, then that's not a clear distinction between the two. It's logically absurd. The boundaries are the distinction...and if they overlap in any way at all, that's a problem when the requirement is specifically mentioning public or private.

Think about that.

 

[JLM]

Yeah there are always gray areas in life that are open to interpretation, but bitching in a bar I think is clearly not public speaking, it's still a private conversation.

Any thing you say to anyone that could be passed on to someone else is public. If you want to be sure that all your speaking is private speak only to deaf mutes and even then I'd whisper! :smile:

 

[petros]

I think the terms "public and private" are being misused and it's creating confusion in this thread.

 

[Walter]

This ban is yet another brick in the wall...

Hopefully that wall will be finished soon so the Utopians can live in their world and the rest of us can get on with our lives and not have to listen to the incessant whining about how if they only had more of my money everyoone could live in Utopia.