Dad beats daughter’s alleged molester to death
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Working on something is personal to you? I figure working on another propaganda trip. The way you take it all personal like gives me cause to wonder now.
Has my spouse ever screwed around on me? That's none of your fugging business - but since you ask ... and I've already said so somewhere back in these archives ... yes. No, it didn't make me angry enough to kill anyone. I'm a bit more mature and wise than that. There's another cause to wonder about what you are.
a justice system that does not work. Ask around Eatons
It also says others heard the child's cries. The information on hand seems pretty cut and dried and the guy deserved his pokes in the head. Too bad he didn't survive long enough for his new room mates to have at him
I don't support killing people based on the testimony of children.
The popular proverb that children are basically honest and always tell the truth went out the window following a series of sensational child abuse cases in the 1980s and 1990s that hinged primarily on the testimony of children.
Some adults who were clearly innocent watched their lives come apart at the seams when accused of heinous crimes against children, even if they were later exonerated. And, no doubt, some scoundrels escaped punishment because a child's testimony could not be believed.
Testing the Reliability of Child Witnesses - ABC News
Children tend to say what they believe adults want them to say. After a while, what they said becomes what they remember, rather than what really happened. Even adults are susceptible to this effect.
The reason why its unlikely a medical examine will be inconclusive is that sexual contact is difficult to prove without finding the dead man's semen. The assault may not have involved semen. She could have been groped. Even a perforated hymen isn't conclusive that the little girl was sexually molested or sexually by this man.
The popular proverb that children are basically honest and always tell the truth went out the window following a series of sensational child abuse cases in the 1980s and 1990s that hinged primarily on the testimony of children.
Some adults who were clearly innocent watched their lives come apart at the seams when accused of heinous crimes against children, even if they were later exonerated. And, no doubt, some scoundrels escaped punishment because a child's testimony could not be believed.
Testing the Reliability of Child Witnesses - ABC News
Children tend to say what they believe adults want them to say. After a while, what they said becomes what they remember, rather than what really happened. Even adults are susceptible to this effect.
The reason why its unlikely a medical examine will be inconclusive is that sexual contact is difficult to prove without finding the dead man's semen. The assault may not have involved semen. She could have been groped. Even a perforated hymen isn't conclusive that the little girl was sexually molested or sexually by this man.
In a word, yes.
And if you think there is some analogy between two adults having consensual sex (even outside marriage), and someone sexually assaulting a child, then please publish your name and address so we can alert the authorities.
Your mental faculties appear to be less functional than your previous posts suggest.
Colpy might suggest that you spend too much time defending Mohammed.
You do seem to be an expert in sexually assaulting little girls. Anything you want to confess?
Your snide remarks were neither polite nor respectful.
To deal with the other implication of your post, no I am not planning on killing any one.
Your post implied that I couldn't be a father because I supported the criminal justice system rather than vigilante justice against an alleged child molester. Or that people without children, couldn't understand a father's anger in this case.
The OP doesn't provide enough information to prove anything one way or the other. What is provable is that some people support killing someone based on allegations of a heinous crime alone.
I am against vigilante justice because of events like the Eaton Center shooting and where vigilante justice inevitably leads.
I completely understand the father's anger, but I am against his actions and I support bringing him to justice. If the evidence supports his allegations that his daughter was assaulted, then I hope court is lenient. If the girl's assault is unprovable, then this person may have murdered an innocent man, which is a common outcome of vigilante justice.
If vigilante justice is acceptable, then I suppose the dead man's family also has a right to vigilante justice. They might feel justified killing the father, because they believe he couldn't have assaulted a little girl despite the evidence or just to make a point about messing with their family. Vigilante justice is based on anger, fear, hate and other emotions rather than supporting evidence, logic or common sense.
Assuming that the man's allegations are true, by the time he killed this man, the daughter couldn't have been in danger, so his attack was not self defense, but uncontrolled rage. If we encourage this behavior, its a very slippery slope towards a lawless society.
I know people who lived in countries where the criminal justice system is ineffective and vigilante justice is common. These societies are pretty screwed up in my opinion. Eaton Center like events become common and after a while its hard to tell which killings are justified and which aren't.
Beam me up Scotty...
To deal with the other implication of your post, no I am not planning on killing any one.
Your post implied that I couldn't be a father because I supported the criminal justice system rather than vigilante justice against an alleged child molester. Or that people without children, couldn't understand a father's anger in this case.
The OP doesn't provide enough information to prove anything one way or the other. What is provable is that some people support killing someone based on allegations of a heinous crime alone.
I am against vigilante justice because of events like the Eaton Center shooting and where vigilante justice inevitably leads.
I completely understand the father's anger, but I am against his actions and I support bringing him to justice. If the evidence supports his allegations that his daughter was assaulted, then I hope court is lenient. If the girl's assault is unprovable, then this person may have murdered an innocent man, which is a common outcome of vigilante justice.
If vigilante justice is acceptable, then I suppose the dead man's family also has a right to vigilante justice. They might feel justified killing the father, because they believe he couldn't have assaulted a little girl despite the evidence or just to make a point about messing with their family. Vigilante justice is based on anger, fear, hate and other emotions rather than supporting evidence, logic or common sense.
Assuming that the man's allegations are true, by the time he killed this man, the daughter couldn't have been in danger, so his attack was not self defense, but uncontrolled rage. If we encourage this behavior, its a very slippery slope towards a lawless society.
I know people who lived in countries where the criminal justice system is ineffective and vigilante justice is common. These societies are pretty screwed up in my opinion. Eaton Center like events become common and after a while its hard to tell which killings are justified and which aren't.
Wow that's twisted. Because I am against vigilante justice, I must be sexually assaulting little girls. Now I remember why I spend less and less time here.
Beam me up Scotty...
Maybe you spend less and less time here because people are calling you out for being a moron, and your delicate feelings can't handle the truth?
If you had the capability to read and understand written words, you'd know that it's not your stance against vigilante justice that made that comment, it was your discussion of whether her hymen was broken and whether or not that could help prove sexual assault, along with your consideration of whether or not there would be semen on her.
If she was a Palestinian, and the dead guy was a Jew, I'm sure you'd find justification enough.
They tested the girl. I am sure if she was NOT molested that would figure into whether they charged him.
Well they do not have to do much to be a better person. The bar is low- below ground level
You're pipe dreaming. As long as they get to the kid before anyone else tries to put sh*t in her head, they have evidence as good as it gets. It only get shaky when someone else tries to influence them.
Which makes me wonder,did they ever tried the a-holes who were responsible for this witch hunt?
Yes but did he make them? I don't think he has the right parts.
They were government employees. Immune from punishment.
Should not be like this,if you destroy someone's life,you must be held responsible.
Why? Is "why" a problem for you? Are there certain implications in the form of the letters ... or are you really afraid of a good, honest question?
Working on something? I really didn't give a damn what your mind could twist it into. We have discussed propagandic intent on several occasions. The fact you gauge what I say by the way you most fear hearing it tells me there could be a knock on your door at any moment.
I doubt if the intent was to kill. What's snide about that? Intent would be to save my kid in any real father. You are your own yardstick there.
Never been a father, eh? Yeah... That's the cheap shot. I bet you fathered kids all over the world - and each and every one of them love you too. I'll grant you.... You may have sired a couple ... but you sure in Hell don't sound like the sort of person I'd want to call Dad.
...with all due respect and polite as can be....
Kids that age are innocent and aren't into deceit beyond getting their fingers in the cookie jar.