Keep the Monarchy!

dumpthemonarchy

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Listening to the events in the middle east I heard them say that many want Egypt to become a parliamentary republic like Turkey, and I thought, that is how our political machinery works out to. Yet we call our system a constitutional monarchy, where the latter word is ceremonial and ultimately meaningless in 99.9% of the operation of our govt. Every country has a constitution, even North Korea and Burma.

The monarchy or crown, both concepts in Canada really allows the executive to have excessive power over parliament, and that is important because we elect MPs, not the cabinet or the PM. It creates a level of confusion in our system that allows elites to call a corporation a legal person on a level with a natural person like us.
 

Nuggler

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This is a great self-congratulatory thread you have going here, where you can all get nostalgic about a mythologized past, psychoanalyze the social deficiencies of republicans and snarl impotently at groups of people you don't like. In the other thread, people have actually tried to debate.

Seems that this kind of thread is the norm around here. No one listens to each other and some unhinged posters hurl insults around like they're massively trying to overcompensate for something.


GREAT ........EH!! Do you like it??

No one is here to LISTEN. We have to jump up and down and SCREEEEEM!!!:blob4::blob6:!!!

The idea is to get YOUR POV out at all costs::::pain10:............:violent1:

FLAME your opponent:violent3:

Overcompensate for something massive:fart:

When all else fails..............:crybaby:

:clown:........right?

:confused3:

Yeah, a unique case of suddenly and involuntarily typing obscenities on the keyboard and then pressing the Enter key.

As you can see, Tourette's is a serious condition:

YouTube - Deuce Bigalow-Tourette Syndrome

Now imagine tactile Tourette's.


Now, THAT'S funny:lol:...........gotta watch the movie (reminder to self)
 

earth_as_one

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Go back to what? Are you mad too? Why are you all so mad?
Please don't feed the trolls. Ignore them and they go away.

Really, I think most people just don't care. Even if more people support getting rid of the monarchy, you'd still need enough people to actually care to do it.
Some people care very deeply:
Home?The Monarchist League of Canada

At one time wealthy Canadians used to raise armies on behalf of the crown:
Henry Pellatt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Many wealthy powerful Canadians remain dedicated loyalists. Mess with them at your peril!
On March 14, 1987, Hodge was the in-studio host as the CBC carried a game... between the Philadelphia Flyers and Montreal Canadiens.... It ended in a tie just before 11:00 PM Eastern Time, meaning it would require overtime. CBC executives, however, decided that only viewers in Quebec, who had seen the game from the start, would get to continue watching after 11:00, while the rest of the network would cut away. "That's the way things go these days in sports and at this network," Hodge said in disgust, flipping his pencil in the air. "We'll leave you in suspense. Good night from Hockey Night in Canada." Hodge was replaced the following week by western correspondent Ron MacLean and eventually fired from the network.
I remember that incident. I was watching the game when the CBC cut away to watch "news". The Queen's plane was sitting on a tarmac somewhere and the door was about to open. For 20 minutes the CBC broadcast an image of the Queen's plane live, doing nothing before the door finally opened and something happened.

Dave Hodge was right to be disgusted, but he pissed off powerful people who care about the Queen more than hockey and as a result lost his job.
 

talloola

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Some people care very deeply:
Home?The Monarchist League of Canada

At one time wealthy Canadians used to raise armies on behalf of the crown:
Henry Pellatt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Many wealthy powerful Canadians remain dedicated loyalists. Mess with them at your peril!
I remember that incident. I was watching the game when the CBC cut away to watch "news". The Queen's plane was sitting on a tarmac somewhere and the door was about to open. For 20 minutes the CBC broadcast an image of the Queen's plane live, doing nothing before the door finally opened and something happened.

Dave Hodge was right to be disgusted, but he pissed off powerful people who care about the Queen more than hockey and as a result lost his job.

I think, if the same situation arose today, they would cut away, show the plane landing, go back to the
game, and cut away again when the door opened, or more likely, now that there are so many different channels for
both events to be shown, they would accomodate both events without pissing anyone off, and yes, I
remember that situation too, but hodge is still working in hockey, as good as ever, and i'm sure he
is happy 'not' to have to be sidekick to don cherry, lol.
 

Trotz

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Go back to what? Are you mad too? Why are you all so mad?



Really, I think most people just don't care. Even if more people support getting rid of the monarchy, you'd still need enough people to actually care to do it.

Nutty left-wing intellectuals, Feminists and Lesbians of the world unite!

Which summarizes a lot of things in our society... a small marginal minority exerting their influence over societal policies. The Swiss just had their gun vote and 9/10 voted against; unfortunately, Canadians never had a vote on immigration, same-sex marriage, gun registry...

Best not let the "Petite bourgeois" have a say in these things and keep them distracted with pornography, kokanee and lady gaga.
 

dumpthemonarchy

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Some people care very deeply:
Home?The Monarchist League of Canada

At one time wealthy Canadians used to raise armies on behalf of the crown:
Henry Pellatt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Many wealthy powerful Canadians remain dedicated loyalists. Mess with them at your peril!
I remember that incident. I was watching the game when the CBC cut away to watch "news". The Queen's plane was sitting on a tarmac somewhere and the door was about to open. For 20 minutes the CBC broadcast an image of the Queen's plane live, doing nothing before the door finally opened and something happened.

Dave Hodge was right to be disgusted, but he pissed off powerful people who care about the Queen more than hockey and as a result lost his job.

I forgot why he flipped his pencil. But he had a good reason. Dump the monarchy like a bad penny.
 

Colpy

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Beware the alternatives!!!!

George Jonas on the dumping of European monarchies.... :)
The continent’s royals may not have been much to write home about, but they were still a breath of fresh air compared to the scum that eventually replaced them.
Tzar Nicholas II was succeeded by V.I. Lenin and J.V. Stalin; Kaiser Wilhelm II by Adolf Hitler; and King Peter II of Yugoslavia by J.B. Tito (who at least stood up to both Hitler and Stalin). King Victor Emmanuel III (himself a fascist) was succeeded by Benito Mussolini (fascism personified); autocratic King Carol II of Rumania by killer Nazi Ion Antonescu first, then killer communist couple Nicolae and Elena Ceausescu next; and Hungary’s Regent Miklos Horthy (a fascist with scruples) by Ferenc Szalasi (a Nazi without) and later by Matyas Rakosi (a short, bald, communist version of Dracula). Perhaps no one could have ruled Greece worse than hapless King Constantine II, except the infamous Colonels who dethroned him in a 1967 coup d’etat.
This leaves Spain’s Alfonso XIII. He alone would have been inferior as a national leader to the dictator Francesco Franco who forced him to abdicate, though the king’s reign would have been less bloody and autocratic.
.George Jonas on the monarchy: Of constitutions and crowns | Full Comment | National Post
 

gerryh

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What I said to corderouy applies to you to slone. Don't like the fact that Canada has a monarchy, then screw off and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Useless quebec separatist.
 

talloola

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its too bad as the generations change, and time moves on, the 'i don't care' stuff seems to slide into

focus, forgetting the past is a lazy way to go thru life.

I was born here, not anywhere else, so my canadian heitage is strong, and my memory of the past is

clear, and why we are free canadians is also clear, so now we should throw out our heritage and

forget the part they played to make us who we are today, no way

We are independent, no one is interferring with out ability to make our own decisions in government, but

we don't have to spit in the face of the reason 'we are who we are', lets respect the past, treasure

the past, and move on.

I don't erase my great grandparents from my past, I wouldn't be here if it weren't for them.
 

WLDB

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What I said to corderouy applies to you to slone. Don't like the fact that Canada has a monarchy, then screw off and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Useless quebec separatist.

Thats not the way it works. As Canadians we are free to have any opinions we want when it comes to how the country should be. My family has been here for 400 years.

Hereditary monarchy makes no sense and should be abolished. Getting rid of it in the present doesnt erase what happened in the past. Hell, even in the past it made no sense to have monarchs. Im hoping we get rid of it in my lifetime.
 

taxslave

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What I said to corderouy applies to you to slone. Don't like the fact that Canada has a monarchy, then screw off and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Useless quebec separatist.

Want a royal a$$ to kiss move to England. We were born here. It is our country, not some self appointed foreigner
 

gerryh

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Thats not the way it works. As Canadians we are free to have any opinions we want when it comes to how the country should be. My family has been here for 400 years.

Hereditary monarchy makes no sense and should be abolished. Getting rid of it in the present doesnt erase what happened in the past. Hell, even in the past it made no sense to have monarchs. Im hoping we get rid of it in my lifetime.


and my family on the French side has been here over 400 years and the Native side...well...a fu ck of a lot longer than that. Still doesn't change the fact of what Canada is and has always been. If some useless separatist wants to try and change that, he can kiss my ass on HIS/HER way out the door.

Want a royal a$$ to kiss move to England. We were born here. It is our country, not some self appointed foreigner


Shows how little you know, and how stupid you truly are.
 

s_lone

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What I said to corderouy applies to you to slone. Don't like the fact that Canada has a monarchy, then screw off and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Useless quebec separatist.

It would be tempting to use the quality of your debating skills as an example of how monarchists are poor thinkers. But that would be dishonest on my part and unfair to smart and respectful monarchists.
 

gerryh

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It would be tempting to use the quality of your debating skills as an example of how monarchists are poor thinkers. But that would be dishonest on my part and unfair to smart and respectful monarchists.


I don't need to be respectful to separatists. As far as I am comcerned they are worth no more than dog shyte under my shoes and they are worth about the same amount of respect as aforementioned shyte.
 

s_lone

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I don't need to be respectful to separatists. As far as I am comcerned they are worth no more than dog shyte under my shoes and they are worth about the same amount of respect as aforementioned shyte.

I'd say sh*t is in the mind of the beholder...