Canada adds a surprise 58,200 jobs in April
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Yep, one of the Mothers of all strikes happened in Kitimat about 40 years ago, don't recall all the details but it was ugly............due to ignorance by the Union.
I've seen the samething with both union and non-union. A ****ty employer will piss anybody off.
So, with all your fact gathering, you feel comfortable telling peeps who have worked alongside union members and ended up disgusted with their lack of ethic (not all but way too many) that they should look for a political solution?
In Fort Mac in 1966 the OCAW tried to recruit those of us who worked in the refinery. We looked around and laughed then ran them off!
We were well paid and treated, we were not stupid. We also had some pride and literally gnashed our teeth when for one example we had to watch a pipefitter from Catalytic (all union) take two hours to button up a flange that was a 20 minute job. Then we also had to sneak back during night shift when the prima donnas were gone (they would wobble instantly if they saw us) to check the work as it was not uncommon to be sloppily done and our lives depended on it being done right.
Just one of far too many examples i saw personally.
Now after you have spent some years in that kind of position then come back with a long winded explanation of why unions are often not well liked, and that is just the work side, forget the political.
And oddly enough, the most fascist act ever committed in Canada, the use of the War Measures Act, by Trudeau. Was used against Labour leaders.
Have any of you ever looked into the history of Unionism. Have any of you considered how many brave souls died in Union activities to bring you the social, economic and political freedom to take the anti Union stance that you do?
Without your grandparents fierce Unionism, you would still be using outside toilets - those of you who would have had any toilets. There is not a single one of you non-Unionists who would have what you have without Unions. And the loss of them now is why your relative economic position id declining now. But, as I said, you are gullible idiots who have fallen hook, line and sinker for the propaganda of the Right.
And, btw, I have never belonged to a Union. I have always been management or professional. I just know something of history. I see and understand what is happening in the world around me. I am not so self absorbed that I can only look to the little world of my personal situation.
Without your grandparents fierce Unionism, you would still be using outside toilets - those of you who would have had any toilets. There is not a single one of you non-Unionists who would have what you have without Unions. And the loss of them now is why your relative economic position id declining now. But, as I said, you are gullible idiots who have fallen hook, line and sinker for the propaganda of the Right.
And, btw, I have never belonged to a Union. I have always been management or professional. I just know something of history. I see and understand what is happening in the world around me. I am not so self absorbed that I can only look to the little world of my personal situation.
Of course.
My Grandparents were anti union too. My maternal Grandfather was a corporate VP. My paternal Grandfather lived off the land and thought unions perpetuated laziness.
Does Andem know petros is jacking Lone Wolf's nic?
.. And GreenPeace doesn't fund the think tanks.. So what?
Fact is, ALL of the aforementioned organizations receive funding from the same corp interests AND the eeeeevil 6 families that you claim are part of the conspiracy.
Gotta a link?... Maybe something from a source that isn't an opinion piece or a blog.
And yes, I fully expect some wild speculation on the Bilderberg Group.
No, you gave me your individual, highly subjective opinion that was founded on a conspiracy theory.
'Why' the think tanks were set up is irrelevant... Perhaps the recent increase in interest (and funding) in these groups was a reaction to the irrational, fraudulent and destructive impact of Suzuki, Greenpeace, etc, not to mention the garbage put out often by CUPE economists or the Parkland Institute.
Sure I do... You just don't like the notion that I am refusing to accept your narrow definitions on everything and attempt to debate from that standpoint. There have been a zillion holes poked in your arguments and everytime, you defer to the age-old strategy of insisting that "you don't understand" or more recently, efforts in attacking the credibility of the person posting the message rather than defeating the argument.
I'm still me. You're asking questions that have already been answered. Post #145.
No ... I'm looking at an incomplete sentence - which, in itself makes no sense - followed by a revision of historical fact. FLQ was not a labour union.
Even a partial listing of those arrested—the ones we know for sure are being detained—reads like a Who’s Who of Québec’s political and trade union leaders, writers, and artists of the left and nationalist movements. They include two candidates for Montreal city council; at least five officials of the Confederation of National Trade Unions, including the president of the CNTU’s Montreal central council, Michel Chartrand; some 30 members of the Parti Québécois, the mass independentist party; and prominent political activists like Pierre Vallières, Charles Gagnon and Stan Gray.
Oh, I'm aware of all that. Bear's post (the part with the complete sentence) reads like WMA was called against union leaders. Seems to me FLQ was a gang set on DISunion
Greenpeace does not fund "Think Tanks." How can it?
No environmental groups receive funding from the same sources. Interestingly, though, some corporations have begun to do so as they are convinced of the need for climate action.
There were six of those families. The only one I can think of ofhand is the Coors. The Koch family may have been another.
They each set up a separate operation. The Heartland, Competitive Enterprise Institute, the American Enterprise Institute are a few of them.
And I don't have a link though it could easily be found. I knew of this more than thirty years ago when it happened, So did anyone who was aware. Long before there were any Blogs or internet ignorance.
And I am not interested in Bilderberg or any conspiracy idea. I deal in reality.
And I am quite sure that I have "defeated the arguments." Such as they are. If you don't think so, then make one instead of the wild and foolish claims about Suzuki, Greenpeace, the Parkland Institute.