NDP clarifies Mulcair stance on marijuana

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Not all Dippers. consider those who voted to scrap the long-gun registry.

And many conservatives can be bobble heads too, just as some of them are independent thinkers. It goes in every direction.

Exactly.
 

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Well this is all a matter of perspective and opinion.

I don't mind paying for services that are worthwhile.

I don't either, it's the people who think someone else should pay for them. There is a situation in Quebec right now where students are resorting to violence because THEY think someone ELSE should pay for their education. Educating those thugs is an absolute waste of money until they can grasp the basic facts of life. Pay you way and quit whining!
 

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I don't either, it's the people who think someone else should pay for them. There is a situation in Quebec right now where students are resorting to violence because THEY think someone ELSE should pay for their education. Educating those thugs is an absolute waste of money until they can grasp the basic facts of life. Pay you way and quit whining!

Yea, the province should increase taxes and pay for education themselves if it is that important to them.
 

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I don't either, it's the people who think someone else should pay for them. There is a situation in Quebec right now where students are resorting to violence because THEY think someone ELSE should pay for their education. Educating those thugs is an absolute waste of money until they can grasp the basic facts of life. Pay you way and quit whining!

Actually, a lot of money is paid for by taxpayers to subsidize education in Canada. That amount of money, in another country, usually pays for the entire thing. In Canada, the children of these taxpayers, usually start their careers with a debt burden which cannot be released under bankruptcy. In Canada we have indentured students.

Many people realize how crappy Canada's education is in regards to the financing, hopefully that is what they are actually complaining about.
 

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I disagree, education should be free, across the board, for those that meet the requirements.

I'm inclined to agree...............emotionally! Realistically it's not free........Canadians have to pay for it. Then all kinds of questions arise. Who meets the requirements and how are they determined? Once the rules are written up I think there are going to be some who scream "discrimination". Of course the simplest solution would be every one in the country above a certain income contributing so much a month to handle the entire bill so there are no student fees. Then there is the argument that those who the benefitting (the students) should have a vested interest in it to encourage them to work harder.
 

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I'm inclined to agree...............emotionally! Realistically it's not free........Canadians have to pay for it. Then all kinds of questions arise. Who meets the requirements and how are they determined? Once the rules are written up I think there are going to be some who scream "discrimination". Of course the simplest solution would be every one in the country above a certain income contributing so much a month to handle the entire bill so there are no student fees. Then there is the argument that those who the benefitting (the students) should have a vested interest in it to encourage them to work harder.

Popssibly some kind of Peace Corps along military lines could be one way of paying it off: i.e. the government pays for your education, and you serve your country fo X years afterwards or some other arrangement.

Feds pay for education? Why the hell am I paying municpal school taxes and a provincal health and education tax?

On reserves they do.
 

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Popssibly some kind of Peace Corps along military lines could be one way of paying it off: i.e. the government pays for your education, and you serve your country fo X years afterwards or some other arrangement.



On reserves they do.
The band does from their budget which isn't all Fed funding to begin with. Far from it.
 

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I'm inclined to agree...............emotionally! Realistically it's not free........Canadians have to pay for it. Then all kinds of questions arise. Who meets the requirements and how are they determined? Once the rules are written up I think there are going to be some who scream "discrimination". Of course the simplest solution would be every one in the country above a certain income contributing so much a month to handle the entire bill so there are no student fees. Then there is the argument that those who the benefitting (the students) should have a vested interest in it to encourage them to work harder.

We could go with the Italian model: 4 free years, then you start paying. Of course, even once you start paying in Italy, it costs a quite high fee of 2000 euro to study in the same place that Galileo studied (if you do not get any scholarships). The costs of an education in Canada are really out of proportion.
 

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Realistically it's not free........Canadians have to pay for it.
I'm aware of that, but Canada would be the beneficiary of the rewards as well.

Who meets the requirements and how are they determined?
Those who achieve the required grades to justify the expense.

Once the rules are written up I think there are going to be some who scream "discrimination".
Of course.

On reserves they do.
Off reserve in treaty zones, the province does. There are very few on reserve schools funded by the province. Even in so doing, the funding is then billed to the Feds.
 
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Well this is all a matter of perspective and opinion.

I don't mind paying for services that are worthwhile.

I don't mind paying for essential services either. It is all the extras that the Left want and thinks that someone else should pay for that I resent. I especially don't like their ideas on wealth redistribution.
Remember too that I deal with the BC NDP who make Jack Layton look like a conservative.
 

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I don't mind paying for essential services either. It is all the extras that the Left want and thinks that someone else should pay for that I resent. I especially don't like their ideas on wealth redistribution.
Remember too that I deal with the BC NDP who make Jack Layton look like a conservative.

Yeah, they really need to stop with the wealth redistribution. After all, The banks chose to give out those loans to people without credit, why do the taxpayers need to bail them out when the debtors cannot pay? Further, why are we taxpayers paying for protectionist enforcement for some aged business models, they should be able to do just fine without patents, copyrights and trademarks. Slander and libel laws are only ever really used by rich companies and individuals to stifle dissent against the actions of those entities, so why are we paying for those?
 

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I don't mind paying for essential services either. It is all the extras that the Left want and thinks that someone else should pay for that I resent. I especially don't like their ideas on wealth redistribution.
Remember too that I deal with the BC NDP who make Jack Layton look like a conservative.
It isn't just the lefties. Plenty of righties seem to think that everyone needs gov't in bedrooms and stuff just in case people are not being acceptable to rightie standards and to make sure that no-one rocks the status quo boat..
 

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It isn't just the lefties. Plenty of righties seem to think that everyone needs gov't in bedrooms and stuff just in case people are not being acceptable to rightie standards and to make sure that no-one rocks the status quo boat..

Right. This is never an all or nothing proposition. I think it all begins with the values that we share as Canadians. Do we invest in F-35s, prisons or mandatory minimums? Or do we invest in healthcare, education and science?
 

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Popssibly some kind of Peace Corps along military lines could be one way of paying it off: i.e. the government pays for your education, and you serve your country fo X years afterwards or some other arrangement.



On reserves they do.

I think that same philosophy could be considered in the medical field. In this province there are several smaller towns in remote communities that have a problem attracting doctors. Knowing that a huge amount of taxpayers' money goes for doctors' education, I say for the first three years after becoming a full fledged doc, they should have to serve where they are most needed. Last I heard, Princeton, pop. about 3000 and serving an area of 15,000 is down to one doc. And Princeton is actually quite a nice little town.............but 70 miles from the big box stores!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:
 

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(it's) all about funding law enforcement and justifying their existence.

Got that right, DG..........just try and get rid of the DEA or the ATF - just not on for those huge bureaucracies - too many jobs at stake. It's not about getting rid of pot anymore, it's about maintaining the status quo vis a vis jobs.