Two Women’s Fight For Power In Redneck Country

[Bar Sinister]

I am not a bigot and I never was but I met a lot of bigots in Alberta but I listened and I am proud of my eastern values which is more fair

You may not be a bigot, but you are guilty of stereotyping. I don't have the data but I remember a cross Canada survey taken a couple of decades ago comparing attitudes toward various social issues as well as the attitudes toward foreigners. It turned out that the narrowest points of view were found in Quebec, followed by BC. So far as I remember Alberta didn't even rate third is that negative category.

A good deal of the misconceptions about Albertans come from what I call the "Klein Effect." However, believing that all Albertans mirror Ralph Klein's buffoonery is like believing that all Ontarians mirror Don Cherry's stupidity.

That is not to say that there are no ultra right wing idiots in Alberta. Recently a group of "White Pride" boneheads staged a rally in downtown Edmonton. The two dozen or so who showed up, however, were outnumbered by more than five to one by counter-demonstrators. In total I suspect that there are no more "rednecks" in Alberta per capita than anywhere else in the country, especially given that the Neo-Nazi Christian Heritage Front in was created in Ontario.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I am not a bigot and I never was but I met a lot of bigots in Alberta but I listened and I am proud of my eastern values which is more fair

What are these "eastern values" that you are proud of?
More fair than what? Just (& still) curious.

 

[JLM]

You may not be a bigot, but you are guilty of stereotyping. I don't have the data but I remember a cross Canada survey taken a couple of decades ago comparing attitudes toward various social issues as well as the attitudes toward foreigners. It turned out that the narrowest points of view were found in Quebec, followed by BC. So far as I remember Alberta didn't even rate third is that negative category.
A good deal of the misconceptions about Albertans come from what I call the "Klein Effect." However, believing that all Albertans mirror Ralph Klein's buffoonery is like believing that all Ontarians mirror Don Cherry's stupidity.
That is not to say that there are no ultra right wing idiots in Alberta. Recently a group of "White Pride" boneheads staged a rally in downtown Edmonton. The two dozen or so who showed up, however, were outnumbered by more than five to one by counter-demonstrators. In total I suspect that there are no more "rednecks" in Alberta per capita than anywhere else in the country, especially given that the Neo-Nazi Christian Heritage Front in was created in Ontario.

There is a thing to keep in mind about B.C. - it's divided into two distinct groups, those gathered around the metropoli of Vancouver and Victoria and the rest of us "heathens" scattered higgledy piggledy around the rest of the province. :lol:

What are these "eastern values" that you are proud of?
More fair than what? Just (& still) curious.

One was Trudeau and another may have been Mulroney...........not sure how "value" fits in! :lol:

 

[Liberalman]

Ron in Regina

What are these "eastern values" that you are proud of?
More fair than what? Just (& still) curious.
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One was Trudeau and another may have been Mulroney...........not sure how "value" fits in! :lol:

When I was living in Alberta and I had an idea at work to solve a problem I just said "You know in Toronto" then I would be cut off and told "We don't want to listened to your eastern values"

 

[L Gilbert]

When I was living in Alberta and I had an idea at work to solve a problem I just said "You know in Toronto" then I would be cut off and told "We don't want to listened to your eastern values"

Well, not everyone likes hearing about the "values" from the Great Center of the Universe called Toronto.

 

[Liberalman]

Wildrose pledges free votes, MLA pay cuts

http://bit.ly/Ibb9bc

“The party announced the moves as part of its Alberta Accountability Act on Monday.”

“The law would also include a clause allowing citizens to force a referendum, an issue that bubbled up last week when the party’s stance on abortion was questioned.”

“Wildrose will also take MLA salaries out of the hands of the legislation, convening an independent panel to review pay every four years.”

Promises for votes and if we look at their federal counterparts empty promises.
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[L Gilbert]

Wildrose pledges free votes, MLA pay cuts

http://bit.ly/Ibb9bc

“The party announced the moves as part of its Alberta Accountability Act on Monday.”

“The law would also include a clause allowing citizens to force a referendum, an issue that bubbled up last week when the party’s stance on abortion was questioned.”

“Wildrose will also take MLA salaries out of the hands of the legislation, convening an independent panel to review pay every four years.”

Promises for votes and if we look at their federal counterparts empty promises.
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Promises are easy to make when you're a politician. Even easier for a party.

 

[Kakato]

I like the video of the catfight in Edmonton,when she gets out of the car her skirt is above her waist and she isnt wearing any panties.
Dont all rush back there at once,it's at the 41 second mark on the video,at 43 she pulls her skirt down,nice buns!

Cat fight then turns into a car jacking hilarious !!! - YouTube

Her Mom will be proud when she hits the 43 second mark on the vid.

 

[Bar Sinister]

When I was living in Alberta and I had an idea at work to solve a problem I just said "You know in Toronto" then I would be cut off and told "We don't want to listened to your eastern values"

During the late part of the 19th Century and the early part of the 20th Century a common sign posted on BC farms and businesses was "No Englishmen Need Apply." This stemmed from the habit of many English immigrants to Canada believing that the way it was done in the old country was the only way. After a decade or so of unneeded and frequently quite clueless advice from English immigrants some people decided that the easiest path was to simply not hire Englishmen.

Now, I'm not saying that any advice you might give is clueless, but sometimes people just don't want to be told by some newcomer that the way they have done something for decades is wrong

 

[JLM]

During the late part of the 19th Century and the early part of the 20th Century a common sign posted on BC farms and businesses was "No Englishmen Need Apply." This stemmed from the habit of many English immigrants to Canada believing that the way it was done in the old country was the only way. After a decade or so of unneeded and frequently quite clueless advice from English immigrants some people decided that the easiest path was to simply not hire Englishmen.

Now, I'm not saying that any advice you might give is clueless, but sometimes people just don't want to be told by some newcomer that the way they have done something for decades is wrong

It may have had something to do with work ethic too. Also there were a lot of remittance men in the country too that people probably wanted to avoid for obvious reasons! :lol:

 

[Cliffy]

I wonder if Liberalman thinks Albertans live like this?

redneck condos

 

[wulfie68]

Alberta is the Texas of Canada...

True insofar as much of the wealth generated there comes from the energy industry...

...and the bible belt fanatics which equates to home grown rednecks not that there is anything wrong with that...

You need to do more research. According to StatsCan, Alberta doesn't have any more bible thumpers than any other part of the country, including your "progressive" haven of Ontario. Such research will also show that Albertans also tend to be well educated by Canadian standards, which also seems to be one of the "Redneck" traits that seems to be mentioned by your ilk.

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and with their hard working ethics and perseverance and with the guidance of eastern Canada have transformed their province to a successful one and that is why people all over the world including eastern Canadians are going there to share in their wealth.

"Guidance of Eastern Canada?" In what way? Trudeau's NEP that burst the energy bubble in the early 80s, which took years to recover from? Yes, many eastern Canadians have come west, as have people from other countries, but the "guidance" that has driven Alberta is homegrown, or possibly (if you hold the opionion that corporations control everything) from the HQs of multinational oil companies, like British Petroleum, Royal Dutch Shell, Exxon etc.

Liberalman, you may not be a bigot (based on your past intolerance of non-Liberal politics, and your willingness to project those views onto entire regions and segments of the population, you're cutting the line pretty thin). I don't know who you ran into when you were fortunate enough to be in Alberta, all I can say, as someone born, raised and educated there, that Albertans, people do show resentment for people telling us how to run our business... especially if they openly worship someone like Trudeau, whose ghost is still reviled in many parts of the province.

 

[JLM]

Alberta is the Texas of Canada and the bible belt fanatics which equates to home grown rednecks not that there is anything wrong with that and with their hard working ethics and perseverance and with the guidance of eastern Canada have transformed their province to a successful one and that is why people all over the world including eastern Canadians are going there to share in their wealth.

A bit of an over simplification! :lol:

 

[Liberalman]

Wildrose, Tories neck and neck in race to lead Alberta government: poll

Wildrose, Tories neck and neck in race to lead Alberta government: poll | News | National Post


"Wildrose has dropped six percentage points in recent days in the wake of media reports on the party’s position on so-called social conscience issues and several major Tory platform announcements."

 

[captain morgan]

You sure have taken a very special interest in provincial politics in Alberta... Quite surprising considering that you're not to fond of the West

 

[JLM]

You sure have taken a very special interest in provincial politics in Alberta... Quite surprising considering that you're not to fond of the West

Yeah, it got me to wondering................

 

[captain morgan]

You aren't alone on that

 

[Liberalman]

You sure have taken a very special interest in provincial politics in Alberta... Quite surprising considering that you're not to fond of the West

I love Alberta and I might retire out there.

Beautiful country, nice dry climate and the people are friendly I might go to a nice small town like Lethbridge which is close to Waterton National Park and is a laid back community

 

[captain morgan]

I love Alberta and I might retire out there.

Beautiful country, nice dry climate and the people are friendly I might go to a nice small town like Lethbridge which is close to Waterton National Park and is a laid back community

I don't mind telling you that I'm more than a little shocked to hear that from you... Regardless, Lethbridge is an interesting part of the province albeit, a little too windy at times for my tastes.

If you're looking for places off the beaten track, consider Bragg Creek, Nanton or the areas around High River,,, These are within an hour of the city (varying), but located more in the foothills. All pretty small communities with a lot of character

 

[Liberalman]

I don't mind telling you that I'm more than a little shocked to hear that from you... Regardless, Lethbridge is an interesting part of the province albeit, a little too windy at times for my tastes.

If you're looking for places off the beaten track, consider Bragg Creek, Nanton or the areas around High River,,, These are within an hour of the city (varying), but located more in the foothills. All pretty small communities with a lot of character

Thanks for the suggestion but by living in major cities like Toronto and smaller cities like Edmonton and Calgary I just want a smaller city.

I am just not ready for a one horse town