Nanny State has CCTV cameras installed at gas stations

JLM

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Well, that's not the only thing the Nazis did, you know.

Funny how now everybody thinks the gov't should be able to snoop into everything you do, and your neighbors should be able to report anything you do that they don't like, and yet, it seems to me, that's what many of my ancestors died in the trenches of France to fight against.

And the justification is always 'if you don't do anything wrong, you have nothing to fear'.

That's the biggest crock of **** yet, because everything 'law enforcement' or 'the government' does gets distorted and corrupted to other uses, and this is one shining example. We'll use cameras designed to stop theft, and we'll just use them to stop people who don't pay for insurance. Because it's easy.

Well, fuk you and the horse you rode in on. If you want to know if I've paid my goddam insurance bill, stop me, and ask for my insurance card. Otherwise, go to hell.

Ooooooooh, touchy! :smile:
 

skookumchuck

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So when they stop me for filling 8 five gal cans and find that i need 6 for the boat cause when i leave here at 3 am nothing is open and trailering the boat several miles to fill is not very efficient and i do not like to leave gas sit for months, what do they say?
Plus i often need 5 gal for the riding mower, roto tiller, and more for my power saws etc.
 

bobnoorduyn

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Well, that's not the only thing the Nazis did, you know.

Funny how now everybody thinks the gov't should be able to snoop into everything you do, and your neighbors should be able to report anything you do that they don't like, and yet, it seems to me, that's what many of my ancestors died in the trenches of France to fight against.

And the justification is always 'if you don't do anything wrong, you have nothing to fear'.

That's the biggest crock of **** yet, because everything 'law enforcement' or 'the government' does gets distorted and corrupted to other uses, and this is one shining example. We'll use cameras designed to stop theft, and we'll just use them to stop people who don't pay for insurance. Because it's easy.

Well, fuk you and the horse you rode in on. If you want to know if I've paid my goddam insurance bill, stop me, and ask for my insurance card. Otherwise, go to hell.

I'm certainly with you here, but the the justification is usually put thus, "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear". We all have something to hide. Privacy is a cornerstone of freedom, my ancestors also fought for such freedom, (I also have ancestors who fought for freedom from England), and I am disgusted that the one country they so valiantly fought for would return to its former tyranny. England has a long history of tyranny, moreso than Germany. Germany's brutality only lasted over a short period, but it was really no worse, just more recent. Oops, got into a bit of a rant there.
 

Bar Sinister

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I've got no idea why using technology to inconvenience or arrest a scofflaw would be regarded as something to do with the so called "nanny state." It seems that this term is being used by anyone who encounters any government initiative he doesn't like.
 

JLM

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At least I never sucked off the government tit for a living.

That has to rate as the most ignorant statement of the day. I did a job like most people. Mine happened to be surveying and designing for road and bridge construction- you're an A$$hole!
 

55Mercury

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I think it's more the cavalier attitude to the cost of it all in that it's perfectly okay to put the expense onto future generations all because they (you?) think it might bring a handful of scofflaws to justice, iow, solving one injustice with a greater injustice: that's what I find offensive.
 

damngrumpy

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I agree this is a great idea too bad we can't have it here. Nanny state my butt. Insurance is a
privilege not a right and those driving without insurance endanger the future of citizens period.
Its fine to sue the driver without insurance but if they have nothing its a hollow order and the
person ends up with nothing bu a destroyed life. The uninsured is also ruined for life. If you
can't afford insurance you should not be on the road. Some things are a bit nanny but this is
not one of them. People who drive without insurance, impaired, or on a suspended license
should be in jail.

Most of the motor vehicle drivers who are drunk or without insurance and fines for
speeding and poor driving habits tend to be repeat offenders, caught with three
major offences, or drunk driving crush the persons car. Or the car they were
driving illegally.
 

55Mercury

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I know people that have driven without a license for years without harming or injuring anyone. Anyone who thinks they deserve jail for that should be shot.

just sayin
 

bobnoorduyn

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I agree this is a great idea too bad we can't have it here. Nanny state my butt. Insurance is a
privilege not a right and those driving without insurance endanger the future of citizens period.
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I'll say first that insurance is neither a right or a privilege, it is what it is, insurance. It stems from the days when ship owners and captains were held personally responsible for the cargo they carried. If the cargo was lost at sea, the ship owner and the captain, (if he survived), could be executed if they could not make the shipper whole again. The opportunity to make money was there for someone with means to underwrite shipments, meaning they would pay for the loss. It turned out to be a very lucrative business because the law of averages meant the premiums paid outweighed the risk of loss, and were a far better deal than having to choose whether to go down with your ship or face the axe if and when you got to home port.

Insurance is required to drive a vehicle, and that used to be a right back in the day. A privilege is only a right that has been taken away.

I don't consider it nanny statism because the nanny state is one that makes laws to keep you safe because it feels you are not smart enough to look after yourself, the one that makes you wear bubble wrap anytime you go outside. What this is is just another excuse to use surveillance to monitor your movements, it creats jobs and makes you feel safe. They want you to "love big brother". But he is not looking out for your best interest, he's looking out for his.
 

petros

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If Tim Hortons required you to scan your health INSURANCE card to see if you have diabetes or heart disease and allowed are allowed to eat donuts, gaskets would be blown left right and center.