Canada wants military base in Germany
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It would seem that the board of directors (Harper government) of the corporation of Canada are hoping to cash in on the next big one at the expense of its citizens. It would appear that the usual suspects are in favour of such insanity, but I think the majority of Canadians would object.
If and when WW111 happens ,it won't be because of anything Canada does or does not do.
Unless of course we bomb Iran.
Do you think we can reach there from our new bases?
It would make it much faster for us to deploy to Iran. Yes
I'd say deployment would take a day or two compared to a week or two.
Plus, it's to help make faster aggressive military maneuvers.
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Yup... War for Oil! That's one of their favorite lines. Every war is a war to steal oil. The thing is... you don't get any oil out of the deal.
Harper (Snidely Whiplash) is a social conservative hiding in a populist closet desperately
wanting to come out. He is an extreme right winger with visions of being called by history
as a wartime leader. What on earth do we need a base in Germany for? A hub for what?
We almost have to hitchhike our equipment to the battlefield let alone maintain and supply
hub. A supply hub for what, and for where? There is something going on that keeps us
all glued to the fact that there is trouble in the Middle East that is going to boil over in the
near future.
Russia is not a threat to us so why on earth would we need a transport hub in Europe?
We have a litany of domestic problems and cutbacks scheduled for medicare, pensions
and other social programs, yet we can afford to set up a transportation hub in Germany.
These guys, sound more and more like the management of North Korea than that of a
nation like Canada. I believe Harper (Snidely Whiplash) is intent on destroying our good
name internationally and he is succeeding with each passing day.
wanting to come out. He is an extreme right winger with visions of being called by history
as a wartime leader. What on earth do we need a base in Germany for? A hub for what?
We almost have to hitchhike our equipment to the battlefield let alone maintain and supply
hub. A supply hub for what, and for where? There is something going on that keeps us
all glued to the fact that there is trouble in the Middle East that is going to boil over in the
near future.
Russia is not a threat to us so why on earth would we need a transport hub in Europe?
We have a litany of domestic problems and cutbacks scheduled for medicare, pensions
and other social programs, yet we can afford to set up a transportation hub in Germany.
These guys, sound more and more like the management of North Korea than that of a
nation like Canada. I believe Harper (Snidely Whiplash) is intent on destroying our good
name internationally and he is succeeding with each passing day.
You mean like this:
BBC News - Canadian government is 'muzzling its scientists'
And this:
BBC News - Risks of placing scientists 'on message'
But hey, let's blame his behaviour on the US.
There has always been talk of having equipment readily deployable. Be it for Military or humanatarin use. With the Mid east as you mention erupting in civil war in Syria, there may be need of Humanatarian supplies. Many countries have eqipment in other countries for easy deployment.
Using germany makes sense. Large airport, ability to move and transit quickly. Supplies are easily accessable -
Canada does not have the capability to fly from Germany to Iran, perform a bombing mission and return flight to Germany.
We are not going to Bomb Iran. If anyone does it will be Israel and maybe the US. But the US will not have to take that option for some time. New talks are ongoing. The sanctions are putting the squeeze on the Thugs that run the place.
Listen to the CBC radio program I posted on the Iran Sanctions thread. Provides good information. Perhaps you may find that you learn something. I did.
You've said it all.... The only thing that I would add is that when the 'moral majority' determines that a group/nation really, really needs your help - well, then it's obligatory that the military goes in with a mandate of kicking ass and taking names.
Funny how that works, eh?
The only problem is Canada is no longer regarded as the distributor of humanitarian supplies
we are now on the front lines as a fighting force and have limited our ability to be respected
enough to manage the peace that comes later. Making war is one thing managing the peace
is far more difficult.
I do agree there are times when fighting is required and we should do our part in such cases
Afghanistan was one such case in point, Iraq its good we stayed out of that one it was not a
noble cause in the slightest. It was the worst thing that could have happened. Saddam was a
very nasty man but he kept the Iranians and other in their place.
The Middle East is a Tribal Paradise where these mobile factions loyal only to their tribes continue
to distribute their hatreds of each other to the constant boiling point. We have decided for some
unknown region to try to civilize savages. Civilization comes about as a natural part of evolution.
Come to think of it even in the West we still have not totally mastered the concept and here we
are trying to transplant civilization and democracy into a region that rejects it and is not ready for
it.
we are now on the front lines as a fighting force and have limited our ability to be respected
enough to manage the peace that comes later. Making war is one thing managing the peace
is far more difficult.
I do agree there are times when fighting is required and we should do our part in such cases
Afghanistan was one such case in point, Iraq its good we stayed out of that one it was not a
noble cause in the slightest. It was the worst thing that could have happened. Saddam was a
very nasty man but he kept the Iranians and other in their place.
The Middle East is a Tribal Paradise where these mobile factions loyal only to their tribes continue
to distribute their hatreds of each other to the constant boiling point. We have decided for some
unknown region to try to civilize savages. Civilization comes about as a natural part of evolution.
Come to think of it even in the West we still have not totally mastered the concept and here we
are trying to transplant civilization and democracy into a region that rejects it and is not ready for
it.
The Harperites may not have noticed that the cold war is over, the menace of communism is gone, therefore, a big military is not necessary. No one is going to start the big WW lll by invading West Germany. So, military spending does not need to rise much, the fed bureaucracy is right to feel defence spending is at an okay level.
"The enemy" are now dumb guys with beards in caves who hate the modern world and want all chicks to cover up. That's not too scary. Therefore downsizing the military is the order of the day, You know, fighting smarter, be at least as smart as a missile.
Here's hint, the USA army is using more elite troops in Afghanistan and drones everywhere, hint, that means less manpower. The USA Army is getting not too subtle hints it should become a more elite force also as money is shrinking stateside.
"The enemy" are now dumb guys with beards in caves who hate the modern world and want all chicks to cover up. That's not too scary. Therefore downsizing the military is the order of the day, You know, fighting smarter, be at least as smart as a missile.
Here's hint, the USA army is using more elite troops in Afghanistan and drones everywhere, hint, that means less manpower. The USA Army is getting not too subtle hints it should become a more elite force also as money is shrinking stateside.
Canadians have looked up the Military as Peace Keepers- That is only one role.
While we had 6 or 7 hundred or so in Cyprus on peace keeping we had 8 K soldiers/airmen in Germany as part of NATO.
Peace Keeping has always been a small role for the Military - regardless of what many mistakenly believe.
Soldiers are first and foremost trained to advance, make contact and kill the enemy.
Next we live in a new world where drones target terrorists locally - Better than boot on the ground.
NATO is purchasing Drones as part of a Multi National NATO mission just for this purpose.
The base is a priority of those in charge, the things you mention are in the 'options that happen if time and money are available.
