"Smart" Hydro meters

DaSleeper

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Nah, "maniac" and "lunatic" are nouns, as is "mechanic".

Ends in ic?

And I was talking about his post...notice the highlights:smile:
I noticed too that his frantic littany were all adjectives.....no nouns.... which might have been what the teacher meant.....but what do you expect from someone who knows everything:roll:
 
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petros

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"Dirty" electricity (screwy wavelengths) and induction disk power meters don't get along and give false readings.\

Privacy? Before internet and bluetooth was the Henderson Directory considered privacy breaching material?
 

Ron in Regina

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Privacy? Before internet and bluetooth was the Henderson Directory considered privacy breaching material?


Beyond what was listed in a phone book, Anything else (if I remember correctly)
found in a Henderson Directory about yourself was vollenteered by yourself, and
not taken from your home.
 

petros

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Beyond what was listed in a phone book, Anything else (if I remember correctly)
found in a Henderson Directory about yourself was vollenteered by yourself, and
not taken from your home.

What more can be gained from other than my electricty consumption that can't be gained from already establish materials like Henderson?

If I really wanted to profile you, the dumpster in your alley would yield more info than anything digital or in print.

I could see home invasion a concern if hackers could peg the feedback frequency of HID lighting.

If you basement is lit up like a scene from Close Encounters or X-Files then get a line filter installed and nobody can rummage through your electrical garbage pile. ;)
 

Ron in Regina

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What more can be gained from other than my electricty consumption that can't be gained from already establish materials like Henderson?

If I really wanted to profile you, the dumpster in your alley would yield more info than anything digital or in print.

I could see home invasion a concern if hackers could peg the feedback frequency of HID lighting.

If you basement is lit up like a scene from Close Encounters or X-Files then get a line filter installed and nobody can rummage through your electrical garbage pile. ;)

Pete, if you really wanted to profile me, all you'd have to do was ask. :lol:
 

petros

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You'd pose for me? Can you do Blue Steel too?

If you want to know everything there is to know about power meters or get a filter go see Deb at National Electric on McDonald St. N.
 

CDNBear

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taxslave

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I was told by one of my teachers (grade 4 I think) that there are no words in the English language that end in "C". She was a fantastic teacher when it came to basic arithmetic and artistic subjects but will always be remembered for the havoc she caused with her epic failure. I'm not sure if her pathetic mistake was caused by her hectic schedule or perhaps, stupid is just genetic. She was apologetic after the Athletic Director pointed out her drastic and idiotic mistake.

Thats not too bad. In the logging camp I grew up in we had a teacher in grade 4 I think right off the boat from England that told us logger fall trees from the top down. Took quite a while to settle the class down after that one.

Cool. Just on the off, off, off chance that all the paranoids are right.

I just believe in hedging my bets. ;)

Just because you are paranoid does not mean there is no one out to get you.
 

Cannuck

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...but what do you expect from someone who knows everything

Why, thank you. I've never felt that I know everything but I am flattered that that you think I'm so smart.

There is no consumer benefit to the smart meter.

There is. It just isn't obvious. As I stated before, it allows for planning and problem solving so it can help reduce expenses for the utility company

It allows the utility to make more money by charging more for peak usage times. Also makes it impossible to dispute charge since the meter is now smarter than the consumer. You can't just go outside and check the meter to verify any more.

You can read the meter.
 

petros

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There are some aspects that can be hacked and quite annoying when smart appliances are linked to the innernet .

Somebody could turn off your fridge.
 

JLM

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There is no consumer benefit to the smart meter. It allows the utility to make more money by charging more for peak usage times. Also makes it impossible to dispute charge since the meter is now smarter than the consumer. You can't just go outside and check the meter to verify any more.

From what I understand "Smart meters" enable the utility company to identify the location of outages immediately which would expedite restoring power.
 

petros

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From what I understand "Smart meters" enable the utility company to identify the location of outages immediately which would expedite restoring power.
That's why God created smart employees. If you don't now your section of the grid you maintain you shouldn't be working on it.
 

JLM

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That's why God created smart employees. If you don't now your section of the grid you maintain you shouldn't be working on it.

I'm definitely no expert on the subject, but I do know of instances on the west coast of Vancouver Island where during a severe storm there are literally dozens of outages with all the hazards involved with darkness, pouring rain, high winds, falling trees occuring in fast sucession and I would think being able to identify the locations at the office would minimize danger to the repairmen.
 

petros

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I'm definitely no expert on the subject, but I do know of instances on the west coast of Vancouver Island where during a severe storm there are literally dozens of outages with all the hazards involved with darkness, pouring rain, high winds, falling trees occuring in fast sucession and I would think being able to identify the locations at the office would minimize danger to the repairmen.
Repairs are repairs. You never rush a person who is working with electricity. They will take the same time to do whether they rush there or not.
 

Kakato

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This is a true story I got from an old Calgary power employee.

Back in the 1960's a fellow walked in to the Calgary power office and asked to be put on the 24 hour plan.There is no such thing so they went to investigate his house.They found he was a bachelour and only had a couple lights in his house but had just purchased a tv which would only work at night and thats why he wanted a 24 hour plan.Turns out his power was hooked up to the streetlight so he only had power when the street lights came on.Back then you paid a monthly flat rate so they figured out his usage and had to pay him a huge rebate.

The guy who told me this story also explained why Alberta now pays the most for power and it's called deregulation,now there are many hands in the pot and they all bill seperately.I will get off the grid if it's the last thing I do and theres a place in Saskatoon advertising battery free solar systems that sounds very interesting.I wont mind paying for electricity off the grid during cloudy days or nightime if I can produce enough power during sunny days to make up for it or even make them pay me.

Repairs are repairs. You never rush a person who is working with electricity. They will take the same time to do whether they rush there or not.

You got that right,after a couple years working with Altalink and Fortis on their lines I have a new found respect for the unsung heros we call linesman.These guys are out in the worst weather all the time and I dont think many understand how many times there are trees falling on the lines or wet snow or high winds causeing problems and someone out working on them all the time.
My last boss is the prime contractor for Altalink south and thats all the powerlines running into B.C from Alberta so as we built and maintained all their accesses and structures and we also saw how much really go's on back in the mountains where most lines run.
They are usually on a line within 2 hours no matter where.