Seniors don't want to give up money for younger gen: poll

[Cannuck]

The cost of housing is insane, but most of that has to do with the houses being too big, too much stuff in them, expensive to heat and power all the gadgets. Everyone has to have their own washers and dryers, dish washers, fridges, freezers, fancy ranges, barbeques.... it is endless. You need an endles liteny of stuff to make life easier so you work harder to get them. It is an endless tread mill of self imposed slavery. It is not really the cost of living that went up, it was the idea that you can't live without all that crap.

Nonsense. My parents have downsized twice since the kids started moving out and the houses kept getting more expensive as the houses got smaller. The real reason for dramatic increase in prices has to do with the changes in mortgage qualification. At one time you needed 25% down and could only get a twenty five year amortization. The changes to those rules meant more people qualified. More buyers meant more demand. Couple that with more and more professional developers and less and less municipal development.

 

[mentalfloss]

Yeah, but look at the houses today compared to the ones "before". The houses "before" had one toilet, one sink, one wash basin, a wood burning heater in the living room, a sawdust burning range in the kitchen, three or four light bulbs and three or four electrical outlet and 110 power.

I understand that.

But with rising housing costs and stall in salaries, most Canadians will barely be able to afford a mortgage on "one house", regardless of what amenities it has.

 

[JLM]

No he's not. If you had been paying attention, you would realize that the figures he was quoting were from 1976. There not too many sawdust burning ranges in homes in 1976.

This thing started out comparing your generation with my generation and the home I described is what I grew up in, so 1976 is just a side issue.

 

[Cannuck]

This thing started out comparing your generation with my generation and the home I described is what I grew up in, so 1976 is just a side issue.

It may be a side issue to you but you were responding to MF's point and it isn't a side issue to him.

 

[JLM]

The cost of housing is insane, but most of that has to do with the houses being too big, too much stuff in them, expensive to heat and power all the gadgets. Everyone has to have their own washers and dryers, dish washers, fridges, freezers, fancy ranges, barbeques.... it is endless. You need an endles liteny of stuff to make life easier so you work harder to get them. It is an endless tread mill of self imposed slavery. It is not really the cost of living that went up, it was the idea that you can't live without all that crap.

I lived ten years in the bush. I have built my own shelters for a few hundred dollars, a log home for $800. I hunted and fished and grew gardens and my wife and I lived on less than $5000 a year. I know not everybody can do that but what I learned is that housing can be had for a small fraction of what people are paying because their expectations are way too high. I was raise in suberbs. My dad was head of international sales for Northern Telecom. I was born into the American dream but I rejected it because it just seemed beyond stupid to be a slave to our wants.

You got that right, Cliff, a house has morphed from being a shelter to being a status symbol.

It may be a side issue to you but you were responding to MF's point and it isn't a side issue to him.

Sorry for the lack of clarity, I meant it was a side issue to the thread.

 

[Cannuck]

Sorry for the lack of clarity, I meant it was a side issue to the thread.

Actually, it's not that either.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Politics was no different than today. Politicians are followers not leaders. There was no appetite for balanced budgets years ago so there was no incentive for politicians to balance budget. Perhaps if your generation just said no to your perks...

Your generation needs to stop looking at other generations for excuses for their own failures. Grow the **** up.

 

[TenPenny]

I resent many seniors and their lavish lifestyles:trips everywhere,hotels,restaurants,new cars,and their expectation of respect for all their hard work.

To quote a friend of mine: let it go, the angry gonna eat you up.

Why resent other people for what they have? Some people have stuff, some people don't. In our world, if you want more stuff, you need to work harder. Or be content with what you have. Resentment is wasted energy.

 

[mentalfloss]

To quote a friend of mine: let it go, the angry gonna eat you up.

Why resent other people for what they have? Some people have stuff, some people don't. In our world, if you want more stuff, you need to work harder. Or be content with what you have. Resentment is wasted energy.

I think we can all agree on the standard that someone should be able to afford a reasonable dwelling and retirement.

 

[petros]

For the montly bill to smoke cigarettes you can buy a house. It may not be a palace but you can still buy a house.

 

[JLM]

Your generation needs to stop looking at other generations for excuses for their own failures. Grow the **** up.

Pretty tough with the mentality of a four year old and an I.Q. of 4! :lol:

 

[TenPenny]

I think we can all agree on the standard that someone should be able to afford a reasonable dwelling and retirement.

There are plenty of apartments available at decent rates.

 

[JLM]

There are plenty of apartments available at decent rates.

With lots of problems inherant with apartment living. Like what do you do when your roof starts to leak? What do you do about your noisy neighbour next door. Apartments aren't for everyone.

 

[Cliffy]

For the montly bill to smoke cigarettes you can buy a house. It may not be a palace but you can still buy a house.

And, for a lot less you can build one.

 

[TenPenny]

With lots of problems inherant with apartment living. Like what do you do when your roof starts to leak? What do you do about your noisy neighbour next door. Apartments aren't for everyone.

Are you saying that every retired person should have enough income from OAS to pay for a house?

 

[JLM]

There are a lot of aspects of life that apartments don't address- outdoor activities, gardening, ample parking for friends and relatives, R.V.s boats etc., privacy. They are simply not adequate for many people.

 

[Spade]

May I take a contrary opinion?
When I croak (may the gods preserve me), I will have no difficulty giving my money to the younger generation. To be honest, I have problems with old Bay and Wall Street wankers taking it now.

 

[JLM]

Are you saying that every retired person should have enough income from OAS to pay for a house?

No, I don't believe I said that, but by the same token I don't have any problem with a retired person owning a house that they bought during their working days. (What I have the biggest problem with is one poster's incessant yapping, whining and snivelling about the position that seniors have arrived at through planning and hard work, depriving him of whatever he thinks he's being deprived of because he lacks the balls to go after it) :smile:

 

[Goober]

Actually, it's not that either.

I tkink you should have your wife authorize posts.

 

[DaSleeper]

JLM, Goober; You realise, of course, that you are being "trolled" by the usual suspects in this thread....don't you??
In any case...it's somewhat hmmm, interesting to watch their spin....:lol: