Virgin Mary's Surprise Shocker

bluebyrd35

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Divining and getting direct messages are two different things.[/QUOTE)

I treat tales passed on from tribal barbarians who claim to hear voices, the same way I would treat those of today who claim to hear God's voice. Too bad George Bush listened to Pat Robertson's message direct from god re Iraq.

A fortune teller has probably a better chance of success than hearing god's voice has. It at least could involve, intuition based on recent
happenings or events.
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Cliffy

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Wrong - Derivatives are what caused the Financial problems.

Please note - The Church does not own God.
They did for almost 1500 years until the reformation tried to steal part of it. Now everybody and their brother thinks they have a handle on Gawd. Do you think Gawd has been torn asunder (shredded) to accommodate this strata ownership thingy? Peoples are funny critters.
 

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They did for almost 1500 years until the reformation tried to steal part of it. Now everybody and their brother thinks they have a handle on Gawd. Do you think Gawd has been torn asunder (shredded) to accommodate this strata ownership thingy? Peoples are funny critters.

The Reformation was always active. And I think God can handle things quite well. After all he made Billions of us now didn't he.
 

Cliffy

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The Reformation was always active. And I think God can handle things quite well. After all he made Billions of us now didn't he.
We know that is what you believe. I created myself. My parents were just surrogates. I used them to get from there to here.
 

Cliffy

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Thta is what they let you think. Rather smart on their part i would say.
Who are they? And who decides who is brain washed and who is a free thinker?

I gave myself shock therapy to break down my social conditioning and brain washing. I arrived at my conclusions through divine revelation. If it isn't true then it is Gawd's fault for misleading me.
 

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Who are they? And who decides who is brain washed and who is a free thinker?

I gave myself shock therapy to break down my social conditioning and brain washing. I arrived at my conclusions through divine revelation. If it isn't true then it is Gawd's fault for misleading me.

There ya go, blaming it on something you do not believe in. Now how can that be?
 

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Are you trying to say i don't believe in Gawd? You would be mistaken. I don't believe in God.

And you have used both spellings - I took it as confusion on your part.
This is what I wrote.
There ya go, blaming it on something you do not believe in. Now how can that be?

Again how can that be.
 

petros

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Divining and getting direct messages are two different things.[/QUOTE)

I treat tales passed on from tribal barbarians who claim to hear voices, the same way I would treat those of today who claim to hear God's voice. Too bad George Bush listened to Pat Robertson's message direct from god re Iraq.

A fortune teller has probably a better chance of success than hearing god's voice has. It at least could involve, intuition based on recent
happenings or events.
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Who said it's a voice you should be listening for?
 

The Old Medic

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It figures that an ANGLICAN Church would present something that is so wildly against the Biblical teachings.

After all, they are no longer a Christian Church at all, they don't believe in the Bible, or in any of the traditions of their former religion, so why would anyone expect anything less?
 

bluebyrd35

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The Reformation was always active. And I think God can handle things quite well. After all he made Billions of us now didn't he.

ROTFL........Perhaps that was his original aim, destroy the failed experiment through over breeding. Instill "faith" then command the flock to go forth and multiply themselves out of existence. Seems to be working really well.
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Who said it's a voice you should be listening for?[/QUOTE

Actually the bible .......... Adam & Eve in Gen. re eating of the tree of knowledge and it is how Moses supposedly received the 10 commandments.
 

Cliffy

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Then as you have written you believe in God. What a suprise.
I fail to see what the surprise is. I have never denied the Creator.

The number 12 simply represents "people" according to the bible. Hence the 12 tribes of Israel.
Taken in its metaphorical significance, the 12 tribes of Israel represents the signs of the zodiac. But literalists would never accept that. They miss the whole point of the book.
 

In Between Man

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Taken in its metaphorical significance, the 12 tribes of Israel represents the signs of the zodiac. But literalists would never accept that. They miss the whole point of the book.

What's you opinion of the other numbers which represent different things according to the bible?

3 = God (because of the trinity)
4 = Nature
7 = Perfection (3 + 4, or God + nature)

interestingly enough: 3 x 4 = 12 (God x nature = people)
 

petros

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ROTFL........Perhaps that was his original aim, destroy the failed experiment through over breeding. Instill "faith" then command the flock to go forth and multiply themselves out of existence. Seems to be working really well.
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Who said it's a voice you should be listening for?[/QUOTE

Actually the bible .......... Adam & Eve in Gen. re eating of the tree of knowledge and it is how Moses supposedly received the 10 commandments.
Ever heard the saying "don't look at me in that tone of voice"?