If that is the first warning sign you come across that 'things just aren't the way they should be' you should try and become comfortable with being a shut-in.
One day we'll kill all Jews
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Does Hezbollah or Hamas meet your so called lofty standards? Or any of the other Terror Groups - the are legitimate - They exist and have many supporters. Huh, does that work?????
First time I have ever been chastised for my 'lofty standards', I'll try and keep that in mind while we 'chat'. The standard that they must show is to be somewhat more tolerant (on rare occasions) according to any UN documents they signed. They give a baseline for what is considered as the 'rights of the civilians'. If a person has a right to revolt in one Nation then those same standards should apply elsewhere. IE if a Nation like Egypt doesn't to be ruled by a Dictator they have the right to demand change and their preferred system be implemented by the ones who have 'temporary control', in most cases the Military (higher ups would be considered to be 1% rather than the rank and file which would be from the 99%.
The question is, do they qualify as being better than some other Nations that are not under military attack over just lack of Government sensitivity to the the needs of the public. Do the same ones that advocate democracy also support the current Martial Law that Egypt is experiencing. If the Saudi's do not have to fully integrate every western tradition to be called democratic when our own path was not always smooth transitions. Avoiding **** like Civil War (a contradiction of words if there ever was one) is one of the goals that should be sought.
Financing terror on the people in other Nations is an act of war. Being covert (and out or uniform) will get a person killed in even an open court as long as the trial is in the grieved Nation. What do your standards include before a Nation can be classified as being a terrorist in Foreign lands? At some point even Iraq would be judged as being a burden on the people rather than lightening their load.
Let's see how it actually works.tyhe STL will see footage from an Israel drone that followed the exact moment the assassination took place, in trial the full video from when the drone was first 'hacked' would show a trend that would help determine who plotted and executed the killing. Would that fit into part of 'your standards'. Couple that with the explosion experiments done by the French and modern scientific reconstruction and an accurate play-by-play could be made relatively cheaply.
The question is, do they qualify as being better than some other Nations that are not under military attack over just lack of Government sensitivity to the the needs of the public. Do the same ones that advocate democracy also support the current Martial Law that Egypt is experiencing. If the Saudi's do not have to fully integrate every western tradition to be called democratic when our own path was not always smooth transitions. Avoiding **** like Civil War (a contradiction of words if there ever was one) is one of the goals that should be sought.
Financing terror on the people in other Nations is an act of war. Being covert (and out or uniform) will get a person killed in even an open court as long as the trial is in the grieved Nation. What do your standards include before a Nation can be classified as being a terrorist in Foreign lands? At some point even Iraq would be judged as being a burden on the people rather than lightening their load.
Let's see how it actually works.tyhe STL will see footage from an Israel drone that followed the exact moment the assassination took place, in trial the full video from when the drone was first 'hacked' would show a trend that would help determine who plotted and executed the killing. Would that fit into part of 'your standards'. Couple that with the explosion experiments done by the French and modern scientific reconstruction and an accurate play-by-play could be made relatively cheaply.
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I was not slamming or trying to chastise you. I was replying to EAO. Saudi is changing, slowly but look to the enquiry - 5 months long held in Qatar I believe. The Shia thought it would be a whitewash. It was not, slammed the Govt from top to bottom. Now the PM, for the past 40 years will be on his way to a retirement villa. Some are listening but some are not. Look to Egypt for the Not side. Democracy takes time and who says that it has to be western style democracy.
Perhaps all Govt retirees should have to automatically go through the Hague before the retreat is awarded. Any excess funds stay with the Nation, one of the prices you pay for being the victim of a revolt, they get to keep the money and the old is put on a minimal pension far, far away.
As for which style, as long as the least important in the land gets the same rights as the most powerful then the majority get the rule. That works if the quality of life for the minorities doesn't take a nose-dive. It takes less time/energy/resources to keep a person healthy than it does to return them to health after they have fallen ill.
Many Muslims are semetic anti semites, I suppose they would be self hating Muslims then. Nothing will change until stupid terms like anti semite are forgotten.
Hello Dixie Cup, I hope you are well. Are you suggesting that zionism protects anything other than zionism? If you are then I'm sorry but I'll have to disagree with you. I don't think that you've considered that by way of your post and this reply that you and I are sharing each others company. So then if you dislike the company you think I keep it might be best for your reputation if you don't incriminate yourself by meetings like this with me, a notorious person of ill repute..
Oh, but I luv a challenge and I am quite capable of protecting my "reputation." It's yours you should be concerned about - oh, maybe not - it's likely too late!
Ok, ok, peace!
It is time to question the sanity of all. If we are afraid the Muslims will launch the
war of hate and use any method to kill all the Jews and we consider them to be
justified or sane we have a problem within ourselves. if we think anyone using the
Bomb again for any reason we have to a problem within mankind itself.
The west has made a blunder though, we endorsed an Arab Spring to rise against
brutal dictators and overthrow their government. We may well have gone from
brutal dictators to insane mad men who could begin the tyranny of international
war and even civil wars withing countries.
I would like to know the difference between brutal dictators, and insane religious
brutal dictators? Is there any way of calculating a serious difference?
All this celebration about ending the war in Iraq and so on. No one understands
yet we are going to be back in there within a decade fighting a much bigger war
with much bigger weapons on a much broader scale. Just before WWII Prime
Minister Chamberlain came home from Germany, with a single piece of paper with
Hitlers signature, and the PM proclaimed peace in our time.
Within six months the world was totally engulfed in war around the globe.
war of hate and use any method to kill all the Jews and we consider them to be
justified or sane we have a problem within ourselves. if we think anyone using the
Bomb again for any reason we have to a problem within mankind itself.
The west has made a blunder though, we endorsed an Arab Spring to rise against
brutal dictators and overthrow their government. We may well have gone from
brutal dictators to insane mad men who could begin the tyranny of international
war and even civil wars withing countries.
I would like to know the difference between brutal dictators, and insane religious
brutal dictators? Is there any way of calculating a serious difference?
All this celebration about ending the war in Iraq and so on. No one understands
yet we are going to be back in there within a decade fighting a much bigger war
with much bigger weapons on a much broader scale. Just before WWII Prime
Minister Chamberlain came home from Germany, with a single piece of paper with
Hitlers signature, and the PM proclaimed peace in our time.
Within six months the world was totally engulfed in war around the globe.
Even if you see Israel's actions in its conflict with the Palestinians in the worse possible light, its most sinister goal would only be to take over West Bank and Gaza. Radical Islamism, on the other hand, has the ultimate goal of turning the world into one big repressive caliphate. It really is an expansionist fascist ideology. So even if you see Israel in the worst possible light, in terms of world security and safety, when push comes to shove, you'd probably want Israel to have nuclear weapons because if the Middle East and Africa do go the way of radical Islam, we could be facing another ideological war as we did the last time fascism spread to various countries. I don't think it will come to that. I think the Arab people will turn on Islamism in favour of democracy and freedom, but just in case, it's good we have an ally that is democratic and strong in Israel. Also, since it is this, you know it will not use nuclear weapons unless it absolutely has to. With fascists such as the Iranian leader, for example, you have no way of predicting if and when they'lll use them other than it won't be for self defense.
I supported the Arab Spring. But when I saw the victory of the Brotherhood in Egypt, I have to admit, I wondered if I was wrong in doing so and feared what you fear. But I think in the longrun, the majority of Arab people will choose progress and jobs and innovation and hope when they have democracy over fascism and Islamism. And then, just as with Canada or other western democracies, they'll move towards more awareness and change in terms of racism, and human rights, equality for women, etc. And really, I just can't ethically support a dictatorship, no matter how much easier it is to maintain "stability" in the region. We're in for a few rough and worrisome years,The Arab Spring was about change, and movement. Dictatorships are about avoiding change, holding it back through repression. I think, as Churchill said, when going through hell, keep going. With democracy, Arab people have the chance to keep going through hell and get to the other side of it.
The Irish Spring blew people up. Not very springlike...
What was manly about the Irish Spring soap? I never could figure that out.